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Why I wear the niqab

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MumsnetGuestBlogs · 16/10/2013 10:58

The common impression that people have about women who wear the niqab is that they are forced to do so by their spouses or society, and are therefore oppressed. They are also believed to be uneducated, passive - kept behind closed doors, and not integrated within British society.

These negative prejudices are just that, though they are presented as facts - widely accepted, and promoted by cynical politicians every so often. Although I prefer not to be apologetic in my approach, I always find myself having to explain my choice to wear the niqab, in the hope that I can raise awareness, challenge misperceptions and help promote mutual respect.

To understand the niqab, it helps to understand the religion behind it. Islam has three simple messages – liberation from worshipping anything but the one God; following in the way of His Prophets including Moses, Jesus and Muhammad, peace be upon them; and servitude to the whole of humanity. Islam’s practical acts of liberation are many – from the duty of environmentalism (protecting ‘the Creation’ from the excesses of humankind) to the imperative of modesty for both women and men – one part of which is the face-veil.

In my view, the authentic reading of Scripture does not deem the niqab as compulsory, but rather as highly recommended: the wives of the prophet Muhammad used to wear it, and they are my role models.

Therefore the niqab is a religious symbol - and wearing it is considered by many Muslim women as an act of worship. Certainly the niqab is a spiritual journey that not many will take or understand, but those women who choose to wear it, such as myself, believe that it brings them closer to God, their Creator.

I also find the niqab liberating and dignifying; it gives me a sense of strength and empowers me. Deciding to wear it wasn’t easy - I had to go against my wishes of my parents, who discouraged me from wearing it because they feared I would face discrimination. But since I started wearing it, over 10 years ago, I have never changed my decision, nor have I ever found it a barrier. I continued my education to postgraduate level, and am now a professional molecular geneticist. Never once did I feel that the niqab prevented me from adding value to our British society – I’m involved in many community projects and events, and hold leadership positions in community organisations.

Some claim that women choose to wear the niqab do so due to social constraints and conditioning. This might be applicable to some extent in countries like Saudi Arabia or Iran, where individuals have to behave in a certain way for social approval (which can include wearing the face-veil). But in Britain, face-veiled women are minority within a minority – numbering perhaps just 0.001% of the total Muslim population in the UK (no statistics are available on this issue). Wearing the niqab is not so common within the British Muslim community that social conditioning could play any significant role: in Britain the majority of these women wear the niqab as a personal choice.

The norms of any society are the sum of its collective values, so rather than talking about the role of social conditioning in relation to face-veiled women, let’s talk about those norms. Public freedom is a cherished value in the UK, and is part of the fabric of our society. It allows individuals the right to practice and articulate their religious freedoms and rights – and offers a woman total freedom of choice to decide what she wears. Women who wear the niqab are simply articulating those religious and personal freedoms – and we cannot risk undermining them for the sake of social imaginaries, deep-seated psychological fears, or ignorance.

There are claims that the niqab is a 'security threat', but such claims are overblown. With regards to the issue of security, particularly the wearing of the niqab in court, let’s be clear that Muslim women are allowed to take off their veils, particularly in the pursuit of justice. But there’s no common approach and each case should be dealt with individually, in a manner that ensures the preservation of these women’s dignity and rights. These women are not committing any crime; they must be treated as human beings with full rights to participate equally in civil society, and to access education.

The reason, I believe, that the niqab debate has progressed this far is that there exists a wide range of far-right movements, politicians and intellectuals across the spectrum who seek to promote the hysteria that fuels anti-Muslim hatred. These people hope to make the face-veiled Muslim women emblematic of a sinister 'Other', a ‘problem’ impossible to solve or accept.

We have to overcome this authoritarian mentality which assumes a right to interfere in the lives, appearances and thoughts of other people. We all have so much to offer each other and we should extend our tolerance to respect, not merely for individuals, but for their beliefs as well. Otherwise, by all clamouring to enforce our own ideologies on the women we seek to “liberate”, we will be contributing to their collective oppression. Indeed, attempts to ban the niqab will marginalise face-veiled women from participating in public life.

It’s time to go beyond words, and to pursue peace, prosperity and freedom through social, political and interfaith harmony - seeking compassionate justice for everyone, and protecting freedom of the individual.

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swallowedAfly · 19/10/2013 11:16

it's not obligatory no mistress. only obligatory to cover to below elbows and knees (same for men) and for a woman to cover their hair. it actually goes a lot deeper but most ignore the deeper messages - re: not wearing ornaments or trying to draw attention to yourself or stand out from or compete with other women.

alemci · 19/10/2013 11:16

also from Children's post, it seems to contradict the idea of spirituality. If you are shoplifting wearing this attire then you are bringing your religion into disrepute and being holy so I question this as being a reason. Seems more like a disguise so you can get away with things and be anonymous.

I know this isn't the case for everyone

swallowedAfly · 19/10/2013 11:21

tbh i'd put wearing the veil in with adornments and trying to draw attention to oneself if i was god and judge it a sin of vanity. the key spirit of the writings on women's dress in my opinion was the spirit of equality and non compete. the veil - the adding more on top of what's asked - undermines that spirit.

swallowedAfly · 19/10/2013 11:24

it's funny though how really it's built into all the major religions that your acts of piety should be on the inside and win you nothing in the world of man re: give to charity in secret, say your prayers in private, don't make a song and dance of fasting etc and yet religious people always manage to ignore that and focus on the worldly expressions instead.

MistressIggi · 19/10/2013 11:50

Thank Swallowed. It is interesting there are differences of opinion about the veil, never mind the niqab.

peacefuloptimist · 19/10/2013 12:28

if you can quote for me where in the koran it says that wearing a veil is equivalent to extra prayers or fasts i would be grateful.

Swallowed Islam is not a monolithic religion . There are lots of different interpretations that are acceptable on the same issue so the point that me and Gosh were making is that you do not have the authority to state that niqab is not part of the religion because there are legitimate legal opinions stating otherwise. Even though I may not subscribe to that particular opinion I can not deny that it exists and that someone else has the freedom to follow that interpretation.

One of the things I love about Islam is that it is holistic. There is not just one way to please God or draw closer to God, Islam offers multiple possibilities. For example, a person may be involved in recycling or conservation work and say that they are doing this to please God. Now you could say where does it say in the Quran that recycling pleases God. It doesnt say that exactly. However, the person doing that is basing it on a principle in the Quran which is that human beings have a role to play on Earth, which is to be caretakers of the Earth or guardians of it. Therefore doing any action that will help preserve the environment or improve it for later generations is an act of worship. In the same way you could say that polluting, littering etc are sinful acts because you are going against this Islamic principle of taking care of the environment. Modesty is a principle in Islam. “Modesty is part of faith.” "Modesty does not bring anything but goodness.” [ Hadiths of the Prophet Muhammad PBUH recorded by al-Bukhari and Muslim]. Therefore if a person wants to do more to be modest then they should have the liberty to do that. The blogger and others may feel that wearing niqab helps them draw closer to God. Just because I may not feel that way and let me make it clear I don't subscribe to that view that you need to wear niqab to be modest however, I respect their right to make that decision.

if i was a muslim i'd go koran only - to look at the hadiths seems to contravene the message of the koran about other holy books and religions entirely.

I categorically have to disagree with you and Cote on this one. The hadith is vitally important to understanding the Quran because the hadith give you context. Without the hadith you dont have the context and without the context you lose the meaning. Now some liberals prefer that because they can apply any meaning they want to the verses in the Quran without hadith but for me that is extremely dangerous because then extremists can do the same thing. I will give one example. In the Quran there is a verse that states.

"And your Lord has decreed that you worship none but Him. And that you be dutiful to your parents." Holy Quran, Chapter 17; verse 23

Now someone could use that verse as a justification for forced marriages stating that God says in the Quran you must be dutiful to your parents. I interpret that as being obedient to them so marry the person I want you to marry. How would you challenge that interpretation? Well if you follow the hadith you can challenge it easily.

'A woman came to the Prophet (peace be upon him) and said: “O Messenger of Allah, my father married me to my cousin in order to raise his social standing, but I do not want to be married to him.” The Prophet (may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) gave her the option of annulment. At this point, she said: “I have already reconciled myself to my father’s decision, but I wanted it to be known that women have a say in the matter.”

The Prophet Muhammed PBUH didnt even say she needed to divorce the man she had been forced to marry, instead he say she could have it annulled. Annulling a marriage is as though it is completely erased - legally, it declares that the marriage never technically existed and was never valid.

The Prophet PBUH also said, "A non-virgin should not be given in marriage except after consulting her; and a virgin should not be given in marriage except after her permission."

Explicitly saying that permission from the woman needs to be obtained from the woman before a marriage can be agreed. There is a whole chapter in Sahih Bukhari which is a collection of hadith called “No father or mother or any close relation can force his/her children to marry any one against their free will and consent” which has more hadith that emphasis this point.

I hope that makes sense. Many extremists will totally ignore the context of Quranic verses and use that also to justify indiscriminate violence. Again the hadith is vital in repudiating them as it makes it clear the verses are talking about a specific group of people in a particular historical context and they only can be applied in the same context i.e. defending yourself against an oppressive aggressor.

Plus in the Quran it says

'Say, [O Muhammad], "If you should love Allah , then follow me, [so] Allah will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allah is Forgiving and Merciful." (Holy Quran, Chapter 3, verse 31)

"O you who believe, obey Allah and His Messenger ... " [Holy Qur'an Chapter 8: verse 20] "Say: obey Allah and obey the Messenger ... " [Holy Qur'an Chapter 24:Verse 54]

Certainly did Allah confer a great favour on the believers when He sent among them a Messenger from themselves, reciting to them His verses and purifying them and teaching them the Book and wisdom, although they had been before in manifest error. (Holy Quran Chapter 3, verse 164)

“……And whatever the Messenger (blessings and peace be upon him) gives you, take that and whatever he forbids you, abstain (from that) ……..” (Holy Quran Chapter 59, verse 7)

Therefore I think it is erroneous to deny that the hadith are part of Islam or needed. Yes the Quran is perfect but how do we understand it without the Prophet Muhammed PBUH who explains to us the practical implementation of the verses. The Quran makes it clear that the Messenger's job is not just to convey the message but also to explain the message and that can only be found in the hadith.

peacefuloptimist · 19/10/2013 12:45

By the way if you are against niqab, actually one of the main reasons why scholars dont consider the niqab to be obligatory is also because of the hadith. I will copy and paste a point that another mumsnetter Crescentmoon made us aware of on the muslim tearoom thread when we were discussing a similar issue. The italics bit is the start of Crescent's post.

some interesting hadith iv been reading recently....

Sahih Bukhari Book 74 #247.

Narrated Abdullah bin Abbas: "Al-Fadl bin Abbas rode behind the Prophet as his companion rider on the back portion of his she-camel on the Day of Nahr (on the Farewell Hajj), and Al-Fadl was a handsome man. The Prophet stopped to give people verdicts. In the meantime, a beautiful woman from the tribe of Khath'am came, asking the verdict of Allah's Apostle. Al-Fadl started looking at her as her beauty attracted him. The Prophet looked back while Al-Fadl was looking at her; so the Prophet held out his hand backwards and caught the chin of Al-Fadl and turned his face to the other side in order that he should not gaze at her. She said, "O Allah's Apostle! The obligation of performing hajj enjoined by Allah on His worshipers has become due (compulsory) on my father, who is an old man and who cannot sit firmly on the riding animal. Will it be sufficient that I perform hajj on his behalf?". He said, "Yes".

that when the companion couldnt help but stare at the beautiful woman who came to ask the prophet (pbuh) for religious knowledge, the prophet (pbuh) didnt tell her to go and cover her face because of temptation, he took the chin of that sahabah and turned it aside. because he was rude in staring! now a minority of our brothers in these times would blame the woman for causing a fitnah rather than tell the men its your problem!

another hadith (found in ibn Majah, Abu Dawud, Tayalisi, Baihaqi, Ahmad, Tirmidhi, and Nasai and it is judged SAHIH by Albani)...

Silsilat al-Ahadith as-Sahih #3472.

"Ibn Abbas said: A beautiful woman, from among the most beautiful of women, used to pray behind the Prophet. Some of the people used to go to pray in the first row to ensure they would not be able to see her. Others would pray in the last row of the men, and they would look from underneath their armpits to see her. Because of this act, in regard to her, Allah revealed, "Verily We know the eager among you to be first, and verily We know the eager among you to be behind" (Surah al-Hijr ayah 24)

so in the hadith a woman again is engaged upon a religious observance, in this case prayer, and yet the verse of the Quran makes a point of the actions of the men, not her going about her prayer. nowadays some people might say 'she's deliberately trying to attract attention', whereas the Quran focuses on why those men prayed in the later lines and those prayed in the first lines:

'Verily We know the eager among you to be first, and verily We know the eager among you to be behind' (15:24).!!!!

Crescents point was that the Quran and the Prophet Muhammed PBUH did not command either of those two women who were attracting alot of attention because of their beauty to cover up more. Instead the focus is on the men correcting their behaviour. This combined with the hadith that Cote mentions (which I cant find right now) is the main reason why I personally do not think that niqab is necessary for modesty.

However, who am I to force my opinion on someone and if a woman is allowed to wear hot pants in this society I think its unfair to ban women from wearing niqabs. You may find it offensive but I find it equally offensive to see the curve of some strangers bare backside as I am going about my day.

alemci · 19/10/2013 12:49

Peace thanks for your post and explanation.

the verse about being dutiful is similar to honour your parents in the old testament. I agree it is vague but do you need another book? to me it means respect your mum and dad. in the bible there is another verse about parents not winding up there dcs so it cuts both ways.

to me the hadith seems a bit like the appocraphe which I believe Catholics refer to but other denominations do not think it is part of the bible and disregard.

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alemci · 19/10/2013 13:14

hi Crescent

Apocrypha - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocrypha//

haven't mastered android c&p

but accepted by catholics but disputed by protestants as it was not in original Hebrew scripture.

Martin Luthers real bugbear was purgatory which was not biblical but to do with the apocryphe

peacefuloptimist · 19/10/2013 13:21

I wouldnt equate the hadith with the appocraphe. I heard a non-muslim theologian once say that if the rules the muslims used to certify hadith was used on the bible most of it would be thrown out. One central principle of collecting hadith is that you ascertain who the people are who are narrating the hadith and what their character was like. So a hadith can be classified as weaker if the person narrating is found to be lacking in some aspect of their character and they can be classified as completely fabricated if you cant verify who the person who actually narrated it was. I hope that makes sense. Hadith science is a very precise science.

Their are lots of beautiful hadith that enrich the religion to be honest.

For example

'The best of you is he who is best to his wife'

Is one that many muslim women love to quote to their husbands as well as the ones describing how he use to help out around the home with housework Grin

There are hadith describing how the prophet Muhammed PBUH never hit a woman or child. That is another useful one to combat domestic violence.

My personal favourite is the Prophet Muhammed PBUH's farewell speech which adds so much beauty and depth to our understanding of what a muslim should be.

Im just scratching the surface here to be honest but I definitely think we would be worse off if we got rid of the hadith for the central reason that people would interpret Quranic verses any way they want. There are actually people who use that particular verse I mentioned to demand unquestioning obedience from their children so having the hadith to back up that it actually doesnt mean that helps challenge that interpretation.

ChildrensStoriesNet · 19/10/2013 13:28

Apparently having a mask (face concealment) can be considered
"Going equipped for stealing" - Crimes Act 1958 - SECT 91

(1) A person shall be guilty of a summary offence if, when not at his place of abode, he has with him any article for use in the course of or in connexion with any burglary, theft or cheat.

(2) A person guilty of an offence under this section shall be liable to level
7 imprisonment (2 years maximum).

(3) Where a person is charged with an offence under this section, proof that he had with him any article made or adapted for use in committing a burglary,
theft or cheat shall be evidence that he had it with him for such use.

There's a lot more recent on the web about this, I'm just illustrating there's a long history to the law's view of masks and concealment of identity.

peacefuloptimist · 19/10/2013 13:44

Some other hadiths that are priceless.

Anas ibn Malik reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Beware of the prayer of the oppressed person, even if he is an unbeliever, for there is no barrier between it and Allah.” - warns muslims against oppressing others.

“None of you truly believes until he loves for his brother what he loves for himself.”

Narrated Anas: Allah's Apostle said, "Help your brother, whether he is an oppressor or he is an oppressed one. People asked, "O Allah's Apostle! It is all right to help him if he is oppressed, but how should we help him if he is an oppressor?" The Prophet said, "By preventing him from oppressing others."

"A funeral procession passed in front of the Prophet and he stood up. When he was told that it was the coffin of a Jew, he said, "Are they not a living being (soul)?"

I'll probably think of other gems later but really need to get back to RL now.

ShreddedHoops · 19/10/2013 13:53

Thank you again peacefuloptimist for your massively educational and well thought out posts Thanks

alemci · 19/10/2013 14:04

thanks Peaceful. like your quotesSmile

Gauri · 19/10/2013 15:04

nice posts peaceful.

if the kuran is giving such detailed direction on everyday life and mostly the message is peace and tolerance, why dont we see that in real life?

PrincessFlirtyPants · 19/10/2013 15:08

if the kuran is giving such detailed direction on everyday life and mostly the message is peace and tolerance, why dont we see that in real life?

What makes you think that Muslims are not peaceful and tolerant 'in real life'?

Gauri · 19/10/2013 15:09

very much liked your posts peaceful. saving this thread to read them.

Gauri · 19/10/2013 15:13

I think you just have to turn on the tv to see that.

I dont mean to incite.

if you read the posts from peaceful, the teachings seems clear and very well tbought out. are the imams teaching what peacful is saying at at mosques?

IHaveA · 19/10/2013 18:00

Nuns dressed up in their habits don't look half as unfriendly as women dressed in niqab because you can see their faces. ( It helps that nubs often seem quite smiley people too. )

Shallishanti · 19/10/2013 18:06

thanks peaceful optimist for your answer I will try and make more effort in future! I think Jesus said something similar about forgiving people 70x7 (dim memories here), also very enlightening re hadiths. I would think the reason 'muslims are not peaceful and tolerant in real life' would be the same reason christians, jews etc are not peaceful and tolerant in real life- everybody sometimes falls short of what's expected of them.

IHaveA · 19/10/2013 19:11

I wonder if people in the UK are uncomfortable with women wearing the niqab because they subconsciously associate people who cover their faces with scarey people such as masked intruders or scary Halloween Characters
(non scary images used)

IHaveA · 19/10/2013 19:12

I wonder if people in the UK are uncomfortable with women wearing the niqab because they subconsciously associate people who cover their faces with scary people such as masked intruders or scary Halloween Characters
(non scary images used)

BackOnlyBriefly · 19/10/2013 19:16

Not so much subconsciously as consciously. Intruders wear a mask so they can't suffer the consequences of their actions. They want to act in a way unacceptable to society so they cover their faces.