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Why I wear the niqab

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MumsnetGuestBlogs · 16/10/2013 10:58

The common impression that people have about women who wear the niqab is that they are forced to do so by their spouses or society, and are therefore oppressed. They are also believed to be uneducated, passive - kept behind closed doors, and not integrated within British society.

These negative prejudices are just that, though they are presented as facts - widely accepted, and promoted by cynical politicians every so often. Although I prefer not to be apologetic in my approach, I always find myself having to explain my choice to wear the niqab, in the hope that I can raise awareness, challenge misperceptions and help promote mutual respect.

To understand the niqab, it helps to understand the religion behind it. Islam has three simple messages – liberation from worshipping anything but the one God; following in the way of His Prophets including Moses, Jesus and Muhammad, peace be upon them; and servitude to the whole of humanity. Islam’s practical acts of liberation are many – from the duty of environmentalism (protecting ‘the Creation’ from the excesses of humankind) to the imperative of modesty for both women and men – one part of which is the face-veil.

In my view, the authentic reading of Scripture does not deem the niqab as compulsory, but rather as highly recommended: the wives of the prophet Muhammad used to wear it, and they are my role models.

Therefore the niqab is a religious symbol - and wearing it is considered by many Muslim women as an act of worship. Certainly the niqab is a spiritual journey that not many will take or understand, but those women who choose to wear it, such as myself, believe that it brings them closer to God, their Creator.

I also find the niqab liberating and dignifying; it gives me a sense of strength and empowers me. Deciding to wear it wasn’t easy - I had to go against my wishes of my parents, who discouraged me from wearing it because they feared I would face discrimination. But since I started wearing it, over 10 years ago, I have never changed my decision, nor have I ever found it a barrier. I continued my education to postgraduate level, and am now a professional molecular geneticist. Never once did I feel that the niqab prevented me from adding value to our British society – I’m involved in many community projects and events, and hold leadership positions in community organisations.

Some claim that women choose to wear the niqab do so due to social constraints and conditioning. This might be applicable to some extent in countries like Saudi Arabia or Iran, where individuals have to behave in a certain way for social approval (which can include wearing the face-veil). But in Britain, face-veiled women are minority within a minority – numbering perhaps just 0.001% of the total Muslim population in the UK (no statistics are available on this issue). Wearing the niqab is not so common within the British Muslim community that social conditioning could play any significant role: in Britain the majority of these women wear the niqab as a personal choice.

The norms of any society are the sum of its collective values, so rather than talking about the role of social conditioning in relation to face-veiled women, let’s talk about those norms. Public freedom is a cherished value in the UK, and is part of the fabric of our society. It allows individuals the right to practice and articulate their religious freedoms and rights – and offers a woman total freedom of choice to decide what she wears. Women who wear the niqab are simply articulating those religious and personal freedoms – and we cannot risk undermining them for the sake of social imaginaries, deep-seated psychological fears, or ignorance.

There are claims that the niqab is a 'security threat', but such claims are overblown. With regards to the issue of security, particularly the wearing of the niqab in court, let’s be clear that Muslim women are allowed to take off their veils, particularly in the pursuit of justice. But there’s no common approach and each case should be dealt with individually, in a manner that ensures the preservation of these women’s dignity and rights. These women are not committing any crime; they must be treated as human beings with full rights to participate equally in civil society, and to access education.

The reason, I believe, that the niqab debate has progressed this far is that there exists a wide range of far-right movements, politicians and intellectuals across the spectrum who seek to promote the hysteria that fuels anti-Muslim hatred. These people hope to make the face-veiled Muslim women emblematic of a sinister 'Other', a ‘problem’ impossible to solve or accept.

We have to overcome this authoritarian mentality which assumes a right to interfere in the lives, appearances and thoughts of other people. We all have so much to offer each other and we should extend our tolerance to respect, not merely for individuals, but for their beliefs as well. Otherwise, by all clamouring to enforce our own ideologies on the women we seek to “liberate”, we will be contributing to their collective oppression. Indeed, attempts to ban the niqab will marginalise face-veiled women from participating in public life.

It’s time to go beyond words, and to pursue peace, prosperity and freedom through social, political and interfaith harmony - seeking compassionate justice for everyone, and protecting freedom of the individual.

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ChildrensStoriesNet · 18/10/2013 16:37

Re: Gauri Fri 18-Oct-13 15:09:44 - "just stating that they would be highly unemployable"

Absolutely, my partner tells me he couldn't employ any such person because they wilfully discriminate against the hard of hearing and deaf (hide their lips and expressions). Apparently the firm would be breaking the law to encourage the discrimination and needs to comply with equal opportunity rules.

Hard of hearing and deaf apparently have an equal right to understand and communicate with any one in the work place.

ColderThanAWitchsTitty · 18/10/2013 16:40

What type of example is the niquab wearing mother setting to her male and female children?

What kind of example is Jordan setting for her children with her constant plastic surgery and getting her tits out for the boys?

Can we ban her while we're out it, she annoys me.

And TOWIE they shouldn't be allowed to breed either, they vajazzle, that's brilliant mesage to send to your daughters. That your vagina shold be adorned with glitter to make you loved.

swallowedAfly · 18/10/2013 16:40

it's actually really undermining of equality amongst women actually even aside from the equality with men business.

ooh salma next door wears a veil, she is such a good, pious girl, why can't you be more like her. her parents must have raised her better than we did.

or the husband who gets more prestige because his wife wears the veil therefore must be a better muslim woman and off runs his work colleague to apply the pressure to his wife to wear the veil.

to pretend this doesn't create pressure on women is just lying. or that it doesn't attempt to mark one out as better, more pious or more rejecting of your countries culture etc.

let's be realistic.

i think women who wear it are doing their sisters a disservice when you really look at it.

ColderThanAWitchsTitty · 18/10/2013 16:41

Absolutely, my partner tells me he couldn't employ any such person because they wilfully discriminate against the hard of hearing and deaf (hide their lips and expressions). Apparently the firm would be breaking the law to encourage the discrimination and needs to comply with equal opportunity rules.

That sounds a lot like bullshit as they could probably speak to someone else. I'll await some in HR or employment law to come and confirm though

ColderThanAWitchsTitty · 18/10/2013 16:43

Actually in that case you could equally say hiring a foreigner with a difficult accent is discriminating against the hard of hearing. Yeah, I call Bull shit.

swallowedAfly · 18/10/2013 16:43

employers are perfectly within their rights not to allow the veil. they are not within their rights to disallow something which is a religious obligation as i said upthread but they can absolutely disallow the veil.

crunchybargalore · 18/10/2013 16:44

I find such clothing of some concern.

It can be a dangerous article of clothing in that there are so many occupations where complete covering would not work in terms of h and s and hygiene. think just how many occupations you could not undertake because of this form of dress.

It does not allow for vitamin d... Except in very hot countries where rays get through the clothing.

How do you run fast?

How do you teach your children how to pronounce words well?

How would you bf?

Seems like it is a great tool for keeping women at home.

by it's very design it oppresses women and the children they care for.

ColderThanAWitchsTitty · 18/10/2013 16:44

I feel the same way about women who get brazillian waxes swallowed but I don't try and ban women getting them

swallowedAfly · 18/10/2013 16:45

the veil is a choice - why do people keep comparing it to a disability or a foreign language ffs??

it's a choice. equality law is not for choices. it does protect on the basis of belief or lack of belief and employers are asked to make reasonable accommodations - it's not a carte blanche to allow every personal choice to be unquestioned or for employers not to be able to say no with good reasons.

swallowedAfly · 18/10/2013 16:46

brazilian waxes don't tend to be shown off in public as a rule or result in pressure from parents or husbands that can be backed with the full weight of cultural and misplaced religious pressure. hardly comparable.

crunchybargalore · 18/10/2013 16:46

Yes I also understand that for h and s reasons this garment can not be allowed for many reasons - there is no way it would be allowed on a building site for example. quite different from wearing if a turban which is allowed.

TooMuchRain · 18/10/2013 16:46

I just wanted to say thanks to peacefuloptimist - your posts have been much more interesting and thought-provoking than the original blog Smile

swallowedAfly · 18/10/2013 16:46

and it's ok for people to discuss and criticise things - it's not if you criticise that persons choice you obviously want it banned.

swallowedAfly · 18/10/2013 16:47

turban is allowed because it is a religious obligation.

veiling is not.

ergo court cases have upheld a workers right to wear one and not the other.

ColderThanAWitchsTitty · 18/10/2013 16:48

religion is covered by equality law. and how people choose to follow that religion.

ColderThanAWitchsTitty · 18/10/2013 16:49

Some have said they wanted it banned on thread, and been quite vile about how afraid they are of veiled woman Hmm

swallowedAfly · 18/10/2013 16:49

hate to tell you and know i'll sound like an arrogant bitch but i really do know the equality act and it's coverage of religion. i write training on it.

Gauri · 18/10/2013 16:49

What's a towie? Why are we stopping breeding?!

Jordon... Hmm. That's a different topic for another time.

Problems with Islamic countries are due to economies. Afghanistan, Pakistan, parts of Islamic Africa.

SA being an anomaly, being economically well off culture/society means greater percentage of shared responsibility between men and women.

This means stability. World peace.

crunchybargalore · 18/10/2013 16:50

Yes noted swallowed.

However given the very poor h and safety record for this type of garment I think it would be extremely dangerous to allow the wearing of the niquab in many work situations if it was a religious obligation.

crunchybargalore · 18/10/2013 16:51

Just as wearing of high heels is not allowed on building sites iykwim.

ColderThanAWitchsTitty · 18/10/2013 16:53

we cross posted on your last post, I was responding to why people compare it to disability or race. But good for you anyway. Maybe you can answer if it is really true that hiring somoen wearing a veil is discrimination against deaf people because that's why disability was being discussed.

Gauri · 18/10/2013 16:55

Ban the niquab and attain world peace. Simples.

Seriously. If the mother is highly educated but is working a menial job as she is wearing a face covering, even more reason to not like this practice.

crunchybargalore · 18/10/2013 16:56

Colder - if you hired someone with a disability then you would have to ask the person you hired if another colleague wearing a niqab wold impede them and if so address what they need.

It would depend if they were expected to work closely together etc.

peacefuloptimist · 18/10/2013 16:57

I am sure God is more interested in what you do for others than if you are wearing a black dress and covering your face

I absolutely agree with you alemci but maybe some other posters need to do the same.

At my university there was a niqabi who had been offered a PhD studentship in engineering. The university didnt care about what she looked like. What they cared about was that she had done some research in the university for her masters which had produced something that could have made the university a lot of money. Her research would have benefited those who were dependant on kidney dialysis.

The university were able to look past her niqab and look at what she could do for others and I think people need to instead look at what is in their heads and hearts not whats on their faces.

By the way one question I have is are people against people wearing niqab in public facing jobs (i.e. teachers, nurses, bank tellers) or are you against people wearing it in public in general, so even if they are wearing it going about their own business, shopping or dropping their kids at school?

swallowedAfly · 18/10/2013 16:58

no disability was raised several times before - re: comparing a child being scared by a lady head to toe in black to being scared by someone in a wheelchair.

if the deaf person was there first and the muslim was employed afterwards in a role where she needed to communicate with others and they needed to understand her in order to do their jobs then i suspect the deaf guy would probably have a pretty good case against his employer for having been disadvantaged on account of his disability. however if the employer had employed her after her coming to interview in the veil and knowing she wore it they'd be in an awkward place. if she hadn't worn it to interview and at time of offering the job she could be made to remove it or give up the post.

in reality they wouldn't employ her if they had any common sense because they'd see that coming.