Instead of starting threads taking the piss out of G&T children why don't you all just...

[PhantomOfTheChocolateCakeAvena]

stop it. It's pathetic.

Thanks.

You're right, no-one does ask for their child to be bloody hard work/blind/incontinent/dead/all the other awful things that happen to children and parents. And to someone, finally being able to use a toilet independently means a WHOLE lot more than whether your child can count to 1000 at 18 months.

how about a bit of empathy with everyone else? That might help nourish your ailing sense of humour.

It's a why do we have this topic...(reply) so we can take the piss!

Greensleeves I understand your pride.

Why do the parents who post on G&T sometimes get ribbed? Er, maybe because they post stuff like, 'my dd has lifted her head off the ground at four months old and now I'm beside myself with anxiety because none of the local schools are good enough for her'. You know, stuff like that. Most of the world's really brilliant people are modest, self-deprecating, shun labels and have a sense of humour.

Kery when has an MNer belittled any child for being clever?

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I do not buy for a moment that being clever makes life hard.

KM your suggestion is a bit silly.

Dou you REALLY think the G&T board and the SN board are directly parallel in that sense? Wow Kerrymum, you really have got skin like rhino hide

I think those comments about SN are another reason why this topic is so loathed.

Grensleeves I am so pleased you are back.

I wouldn't have a probem if the top 5/10% were labelled 'really clever and maybe a bit talented' as that's what they actually appear to mainly be in reality.

The amount of truly gifted and talented poeple is way below that level, and really rather rare, and often not fully ecident until adulthood.

Many children have an aptitude for some things, dance, art, maths etc but theyre not bloody gifted they're just rather good at it.

I'd never laugh at the child who loved her Irish dancing and frequently won medals for it, I'd think it was brillant and good for her, but I may snigger at her being labelled GandT for it.

ah the annual g and t spat
Most of those threads are quite light and quite funny...
I sometimes need the G and T topic
Therefore it should stay, without question!

Yes you would Kerrymum. You'd be LOST without your anger

There is a difference between posting on a thread to ask for help/support and just showing off. IMO the former is acceptable, and the latter definitely not.

I can see why boasting/showing off would be very annoying/upsetting for people reading the posts.

But I can also see why parents who genuinely needed help/advice with a gifted child who was having a thoroughly miserable time, would feel hurt at being target of ridicule.

If that makes any sense at all.

I don't see anyone posting on the Gay parents board or the Large families board for a laugh. Why's it acceptable for the G&T board to be used this way?

Yeah, because really clever people, like, say Barack Obama and Bill Gates, have such shit lives. I bet they wish they were disabled, as it's so much easier and more respected.

But gifted children (as opposed to G&T labelled) really do suffer in many ways, and they are frequently excluded in the way SN children are.
It is very important to parents that their child is doing well in school- and we don't mean academically, but socially fitting in, getting on well with their peers, having friends... something some gifted children really struggle with as they cannot find someone just like them.

mabanana
It has made life hard at times for ds1
I have a dd who has had major but now minor SN
I do not appreciate comparisons for obvious reasons but know that both present unique problems which discussion boards like this are godsends for.

In answer to your last qu Avena, it is because the G+T topic is a good way of being joky or self-deprecating about something you are ridiculously pleased with yourself for being able to do.

And its because gay people and people with special needs do have a tough time because of serious prejudice , whereas clever people on the whole do not. That's why gay, disabled and balck people need som,e legal protection but clever people don't.

I haven't said any such thing. You are erecting a "straw man"in place of my actual arguments rather than address them directly. Because you ENJOY a good old self-righteous bile-infused emotional beanfeast about what a bitch it is being the mother of the next Stephen Hawking (minus the SN)