Instead of starting threads taking the piss out of G&T children why don't you all just...

[PhantomOfTheChocolateCakeAvena]

stop it. It's pathetic.

Thanks.

You are being deliberately dishonest kerry. I didn't mock kids who play chess. Both my sons play it, though not to any high level.

And neither did fircone.

don't be so silly Kerry. Of course it is fine to mock crazed parents, poncey uniforms, pretentious dinner parties, grim PTA members. It's calling having a sense of humour - you remember! I'm sure you have raised the odd eyebrow at people yourself in your time!

For years now I've almost managed to get to the Rivrford open day (we do a carnival the same day in Honiton)- I must drag my deffo- not G&T kids over next year just to see the reaction!

The idea o G&T in one subject is interesting because at school I was very advanced in English (lessons with the Head etc, completed all the school workbooks in a year, reading at 2). It wasn't a sign of genius (I have a degree but am not stunningly bright- when compared to the SN status I ahd in maths it was in fact a red flag that nobody icked up that I had other problems, which I can now identify as reflecting my son's AS status.

I have seen cases of exceptinal G&T people who need extra support (i'm talking Barrister, head girl at her Oxbridge college level here, a friend back home) in social skilld not get it because of such a high focus on what they can do, and I am certain it has affected overall life quality inn terms of relationships etc. I suspect that G&T kids could benefit from the access to social skills groups that my AS / HFA son gets, but where the funding would come from I cannot answer in a world where even a non verbal child cannot access basic support quite often. I suspect that some of these kids re the ones who get 'sneaked' into ds1's support lessons and whilst I want them to get help I also want to tell them to sod off from utilisin the time I have battled for years to get funding for.

Presumably the answer is to have more EQ focussed stuff in the MS curriculum?

DH plays chess. I think its fine to mock crazy parents whether on the football field or on in the chess halls.

"Do you think a child comes out of the womb being a gm?

No, they have to work at it, study and compete. A LOT. You have to compete at a certain level and achieve "norms" or points if you would to achieve gm ranking. All this takes time, many competitions and effort."

And isn't that why they say genius is 1% talent and 99% hard work. Many people do not have the drive or ambition to put in the hard work. That doesn't make them a bad person or mean that they've failed, it just means that they've chosen a different path in life. Absolutely nothing wrong with that.

DS1 loves Chess as a perfectly unimportant aside, won the lower school tournament but have no idea how, can't spell his own surname how did he manage that? DS2 is useless at it. (They have chess club after school once a week). I can't tell my prawns from my knightriders meself .

I do think quite a lot of posters on this topic like to stereotype everything (funny threads on playing toy pianos/serious discussion on the role of class in definiting G&T etc) simply as 'attacks' on the 'poor ickle kiddies'. It comes over as paranoid and a bit ridiculous, which is one of the reasons (that and all the threads about 'gifted' babies and toddlers) that people find the topic risible.

TBH I think whenever there are diddicult issues this will happy.
Someone has posted on here a la 'well it wouldn't be OK for me to take the piss out of SN would it' but that kind of misses the point.
I personally can get very VERY excercised by stupid/ill informed comments about ASD and ADHD. There are often threads about how ADHD doesn't exist and how hard parents don't want to live or educated their children near anyone with ASD or 'behavioural issues'. Those kinds of postings happen all the time even though people tend to try and be sensitive ( with massively varying success ).

There was a recent bust up on one child families re the need for that area. People feel under attack sometimes in the large families section..

I think there are many types of areas who can and do feel under attack and have to manage that.

And tbh I also think that the joking on G&T is usually aimed at the ridiculous 10% label. I think most people recognise that having a genuinely hugely gifted child can give rise to somewhat different parenting challenges.

My personal bug bear has always been people mocking children and I notice this most commonly on this board when people make sneering comments about privately educated children.

I personally would post a joke type thread on that section of the board but thats just me. I don't honestly think it is intended nastily. And I think being able to discuss issues without fear of offending is nearly always the most productive situation.

christ I'm boring...

KM, what I was trying to express is the fact that just because a child plays chess doesn't necessarily make them either talented or gifted which seemed to be one of the points on here.

I am not sure about diverted but I think there should be school funds available to hobbies/pursuits/activites that are cerebral as well as sporting but that's just because some children enjoy them and that should be encouraged not because they maybe talented/gifted.

TBH this seems more about you than talented and gifted children.

Also I state again being actually gifted is incredibly rare, if parents stopped trying to claim there LO was gifted just because he played chess (or whatever) then the funds/teaching/attention needed maybe available for the ones which are truly gifted.

TBH I think whenever there are diddicult issues this will happy.

fookin hell. I think I must be drunk

As far as I can tell it isn't the children that anyone takes the p* out of. But them, in some cases, overprecious parents.

And the terminology is irritating. Implies that the rest of the herd are ungifted and untalented. Which rankles a little...even if it's true

But THERE ISN'T ANY 'MOCKERY' OF CHILDREN! FFS.... It is paranoia.
(the word mock is so Frankie HOwerd, isn't it? 'oooh titter ye not, nooo, don't mock madame...')

It seems to me, that especially over recent weeks it's open season just to take the piss out of anyone and everyone.
It's so fecking boring.

Our school has a policy that each teacher should offer one after school hobby club a week- in the topic of their choice. Ours include science, art, chess, board games (fab for teamwork imo), choir, footie, golf (! reflects where we live), rugby, gym, gardning- basically a massive range and I think thats fab. Oh yes, its state ms. Endowed to be exact.

And I don't see any problems that are do to with being gifted or talented that can't be dealt without outside the sheltering of a 'we're great we are' topic.

Kerrymum here is never any mockery of G+T children on MN. There is only mockery of overprecious parents -- and that goes across the board, not just aimed at parents of (alleged or acual) G+T children.

Taking the piss is what British people do. It's our national identity. Makes me proud, it does.

I don't think anyone is mocking the children-however some parents need a bit of mockery IMO, they are just too precious!

Which bit was suppose to be insulting you?

I don't get this thread.
why would anyone go into a topic just to take the piss, arn't we grown ups here?
as for comparing G&t to sn, that has made me realise how stupid the sn title is.
you cannot compare G&T with a severely disabled child, so in futre I will use CP and not sn.

I have no problem whatsoever with G&T and have been surprised and rather baffled at the constant mockery on it. I personally feel that the MNers who do this are rather . That's really what it looks like.

I agree with Crush here. My 2 youngest DSs are G and T-it was not around when my older DSs were at school. DS5 is also SN because he has Asperger's.

The mockery on the G and T threads just reflects badly on those who do it imo.

Take no notice Kerrymum-the posters who come on here to mock are being very childish. They make themselves look ridiculous and are not worth bothering with.