Has anyone ever asked if their child is G&T on here and been told 'yes'?

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just wondering...

I haven't asked the question cos I already knew the answer but some time ago I joined in a post where someone was asking whether other children drew much at a young age. DD could draw people with all their features at 2.5 and the general consensus was that she was talented in the drawing type thing.

Thanks babyblue, her drawing sounds great! I just wonder what it takes for people to say 'yes, that is an intellectually gifted 2 / 3 / 4 year old'. Surely some of them must be, so what kind of things would be indicators?

I think its how people post. The post I responded too was full of 'my DD can do this and that' and the woman was asking a question she probably knew the answer to. I think as parents you generally know whether they excel at something or whether they are just moving along at normal developing rates. I've never posed the question about DD1.

Problem is that there are fundamental difficulties with the definition of gifted and talented. If nobody can agree on the definition then it is hard to agree on whether a child 'qualifies' or not.

mine are
nrver asked
its all bull
mine are on it for maths ald literacy but it means feck all

The main problem is the definition of G+T. Most people agree that it shouldn't be top 10% (or even top 5%) but aside from that there isn't an accepted definition, so it's very hard to say. I think quite a few posters on here have children that sound very gifted, but without a clear definition the tendency is to think you need to be doing calculus in nappies to be gifted. It's probably no bad thing though as it's probably a good idea not to rush to label kids.

In answer to fullmoon: no - specially not in the UK state primary G&T initiative, which is purely statistical (top 10%, isn't it? in whatever class/year) so your whole pool of G&T at one school mightn't even qualify at another.

Certain bands of IQ scores get assigned labels - gifted/highly gifted/profoundly gifted - as the converse of the labels assigned to sub-100 IQ bands. That's authoritative I suppose.

Better are the various things on the web about telling the difference between "bright" and "gifted", which have no authority or diagnostic value, but are interesting and useful from a common-sense angle.

Here is one.

Bink, I saw another chart like the one you've linked to with a third column called something like 'Creative thinker'. I liked the sound of the 'Creative thinker' and remember in particular the 'mastery' comparison:

Bright child - 6-8 repetitions for mastery. Gifted learner - 1-2 repetitions for mastery.
Creative thinker - questions the need for mastery.

Sorry, irrelevant to original post. Though I think the answer to that is 'No', from posts I've read.

DS2 painted a recognisable picture of an aeroplane the other day. He's 20mo.

I'm going to tout him round funfairs, I think.

Fuck me, Bink, I'm gifted

When it's to do with such young children I think people are cautious about saying yes. Partly because of the problems of definition. Partly because it's very hard to test young children. Partly because development in young children isn't nice and smooth. Partly because if they're not in the education system yet for the most part it's not really relevant. Unless they're playing concert halls at 5, doing quadratic equations at 2 etc

Also I think because lists of my toddler can do X, X and X are a bit meaningless. As parents we give lists of things "we" think are important or clever. Some things are easy to put a checkbox by and to compare. For example colours, shapes, letters, numbers, age they walked, number of words!

But I have a suspision that most of the things they do that really are clever, us poor parents havn't got a clue they're doing it. Or thinking it! I get excited when my young toddlers have started to recognize number, letter the odd word. But really if they can recognize that line drawing is a dog, why is it suddenly amazing if the can name a shape as a 7 or that is called a circle?

There there's the same child in the corner, dropping things, rolling objects about, putting things together, making up their little stories and we ignore it and moan that they're making banging noises again

Children with good early language skills are probably easier to make such lists for because you have "evidence" that they know things. Bit hard to know what they understand if they can't or won't tell you. Some young children really arn't interested in performing for parents

That's not sour grapes both my children when young have come out very well in the parental comparative list building.

So I'm sure not many are told of course your 2 year old is G&T but probably down to caution.

But I'm sure many 2 year olds were concieved due to G&T

So a bright child is one who knows and can do things. A gifted child is one who wants to know and do things. Wish I was brighter and less gifted

fullmooncupsugar, yes I've known somebody like that also. Lots of friends who were incredibly good and interested in academic work, In the top X% of the country and all that but this person was very different.

Do ppl on here give their children Gin adn tonic ?

I don't like the phrase. It was designed by the government to pigeon hole kids so that national standards might appear to be met.

All children are talented at something. Seven times out of ten, it never amounts to a hill of beans.

Emotional intelligence is what I would wish for my son. I know he's bright, and bright kids learn all by themselves.

I want a kid who instinctively gives up his seat for an elderly woman on the bus. In all the hoo-hah about education, I sometimes think that these aspects of intelligence get entirely lost.

Desi, you'd like DS1 then. He's 3.6 and waves and says thank you to drivers who let us across zebra crossings

My 2 year old shouts Stupid Man at people

Mine does too, hunker! That sort of emotional intelligence will take our kids far.

Not worth posting on the G&T thread unless you want to be ridiculed!!. Will miss the arguments though, when its all falls into oblivion, so shall we keep it going?