Do you need to be able to use the word "arrogant" at the age of two?

[Lilymaid]

Today's little genius, care of the Daily Mail

oh yes, I read a mag article once by that Mad Liz. Her hair is a monstrosity.

Burchill just turned out to be so very very uncool after all the initial promise.

franca, I'd rather prominent knee caps than my sort of cow pat ones. You are a lucky lady.

wow. thanks mi, i did wonder what observer woman was like.

wow. thanks mi, i did wonder what observer woman was like.

LOL my ds1 was a similar age when the HV drew a rather wonky circle and asked ds if he knew what that shape was.

He looked thoughtful and replied "Hmmmm, it looks like an oval, but I think it's meant to be a circle"

thanks pointy . Although you should see my hair... [checks jo hansford recommendations...]

no one talks about teeth better than Martin Amis

I think aloha has it, in that pink and purple are the first two colours little girls learn, especially if they have older sisters. loved the battleship grey and taupe and army green and taupe bit. We decorated DD's bedroom before her third birthday and she knew that she had lilac walls, and pink covers with lilac and pink flowers on. Actually I remember the health visitor coming to do DS's 3 year assesment (at which they check for colour awareness btw) and he was saying things like "dark grey" and she said to differentiate shades at that age was advanced.

She does like like a sweet little girl though and her hair reminds me of DD's, except DD hasn't got a fringe cut in.

I wonder how many calls Mensa will be getting over the next few weeks as everyone wants their little darlings tested .

That article by Liz Jones made me want to cry actually. What a waste of a life.

I understood that early physical development is no indicator of intellect or vice versa.

Good god - shows how much of a finger on the pulse I have. Nirpal Arsehole Thingy and Liz Jones have split up. I didn't know until about 5 mins ago. Here is the whole sorry story !

The aritcle I rad was about ther marriage back in the heady days. And it was mighty grim back in the heady days

Probably repeating stuff here, but I beieve that the language she uses only reflects the language she hears. My three year old easily uses penultimate, trespassing, optinal and compulsory correctly in her language (and has done for a year now), but that's because when we're cleaning her teeth we tell her when its her penultimate go of washing the tootbrush, when she walks over someone's garden, I tell her not to trespass and when she's throwing a toddler tantrum and refusing to put her shoes on, I tell her that its compulsory and not optional. She is in no way a child genius, she just uses the langauge she hears around her.

Rarrie - I agree. Toddlers are programmed to pcik up the language they hear - nothing to do with innate intelligence in any other area. They are little parrots ( which can be embarassing) who will relfect what they hear from parents and siblings

kookaburra - sure, and my daughter speaks English and French because she hears both, not because she's a genius

DD knew the colours pik and purle very early. Pink was the first colour she knew very early on, lol. She definitely knew her colours before starting school.

She is clearly a bright, alert and also physically able child.

As the youngest of 5 children, I suspect she is learning a lot by copying older siblings, especially the language skills.

But not convinced she is doing that much more than many other two year olds I have met. Obviously some can't do these things, but also some can.

And I imagine a few children know some Spanish words at this age. Why? Dora!

Picking up another language at this age is nothing special at all. It's what children do. They're programmed to learn any language at all at this young an age.

"She was crawling at five months and walking at nine months.

By 14 months, she was getting herself dressed.

"She spoke really early - by 18 months she was having proper conversations," "

my second dd could do all that. she is 20 years old now and excels at . . .

going out with her friends and getting a free drink, lol

How odd!

Ds3 is 2.9 and he can tell me pink or purple. He could hand me 10 blocks or 2 blocks. He can dress himself and put his shoes on the right feet. I don't think he's a blardy genius! Bright -, yes, genius - probably not.

Ds1 and ds2 walked at 9 months. Both pretty bright but again, I don't think genius.

Children do not start learning colours at 5!? That's rubbish surely?!

God, what a load of bollocks. Couldn't even read all of it.

'I also don't understand why the parents applied for her to join Mensa. A 2yr-old would get absolutely nothing out of it, other than their photo in the Daily Mail.'

Spot on coppertop!

True about Spanish Hula - ds2 (4) knows tons of it and ds3 (2) knows quite a bit. They are obsessed with Dora and they do Spanish twice a week at nursery.

Also agree with being young sibling - ds3 with the dressing, shoes on, counting out stuff - it's all because he's so independent and copies his brothers.

He's doing pretty well on his letters too and can write a good 'J' for his name. Ds1 couldn't do that at 2 because I just never did it with him whereas ds3 joins in when we all sit down to do it.

She is very clever for her age but when i was 2 i was fuelent in english and spanish speaking very complex language but i'm not a genius now far from it just because you advance quickly when you are little doesn't mean you are going to continue to do so.

well DS is 6 and often puts his shoes on the wrong feet, but mainly because he can't actually be bothered to look at which shoe he has picked up, and is still trying to read/play/watch tv.