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Do you need to be able to use the word "arrogant" at the age of two?

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Lilymaid · 22/06/2007 14:00

Today's little genius, care of the Daily Mail

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lucyellensmum · 22/06/2007 14:23

might i point people to the poem i posted in the behaviour and development section - please please please let our children be children, it is such a short time in their lives and all this pushing and comparing is not a good thing.

allgonebellyup - i'm not jealous, you are right, the little girl should be left alone, i dont read the mail, i make a point of it, but i suspect the poor wee soul just wants to play with her playdough! I am NOT jealous but i am sensitive as my little girl, bright as she is, has speech delay so i really dont know if she knows her colours or not - but you know what, she will one day, same as she will learn quadratic equations one day but right now - we are going to make a mud pie.

hatrick · 22/06/2007 14:23

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harpsichordcuddler · 22/06/2007 14:23

"Most children go to school aged five and start to learn colours, let alone knowing the difference between p"ink and purple."

Oblomov · 22/06/2007 14:24

Not convinced. Pink and purple - nah.
Attention seeking parenting = yeeeesssss

lucyellensmum · 22/06/2007 14:25

oh and am i the only one who finds this topic a bit cringeworthy? maybe im just jealous!

dinosaur · 22/06/2007 14:25

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mumto3girls · 22/06/2007 14:28

My dd3 has names alot of colours including silver and gold since she was about 15-16 months old. So what.?.I know it means nothing, she has agood memory and learnt to talk early.
By the time she goes to school everyone will be just about equal...

Anna8888 · 22/06/2007 14:29

Don't get the pink versus purple thing. My daughter (2.7) has known the difference for ages... and she knows all her colours, in both English and French. Seems quite normal too

harpsichordcuddler · 22/06/2007 14:31

no, gross motor skills are not related to intelligence.
whatever the F intelligence means
Oh and I once worked at a Mensa conference

fennel · 22/06/2007 14:35

Not saying she's not clever, but really, my dd3 is not remotely bright as far as I can tell and she knew pink v purple at 2, the only colours she did know. Pink v purple is very important at nursery.

Blueblob · 22/06/2007 14:37

I'm sure she is a bright inquisitive young girl.

Aside from all of that a question for those of you in the know. Can you really accurately work out the IQ of a 2 year old? If so does it really reflect how the child will be in 5 or 15 years time? How constant is your IQ scoring?

My young 2 year old can say "don't exterminate me, no time space rift NOW NO NO rift". Not quite that clearly and he does have a big brother who loves Dr Who

coppertop · 22/06/2007 14:51

Blueblob - A Child Psych told me that it's very difficult to tell how intelligent a 2yr-old will be when they are older. At that age their development is still in 'spurts', so a child who seems a long way ahead at 2 may be fairly average by the age of around 4 or 5. The Ed.Psych did some testing with my ds2 (he's autistic). Before she started she explained that she wouldn't usually test children of his age (4yrs) as they are generally too young in her opinion.

singersgirl · 22/06/2007 15:03

Well, the colour thing is clearly nonsense because most children know their colours long before 2. It is clever to count out 10 blocks at 2, but DS1, who is certainly no genius at 8, could do it. And 'arrogant' is a very sophisticated word and concept for a 2 year old. But how can they measure her IQ and what can it possibly mean?

hockeypuck · 22/06/2007 15:05

poor child. She's going to be completely incorrigible (spelling) by the time she's in reception if they keep telling her she's clever all the time.

Yes she's gifted, but focus on the social aspects and let her just be 2. Having an IQ test at 2? honestly!!!!!

And children only learn colours at school at the age of 5? eh? surely most 2 year olds know the colours and can differentiate the colours pink and purple and tell the difference between shapes.

Unless, maybe, my child is also a genius and I can tell all the papers and be ever so popular and learn to dominate the earth mwah mwah mwah ha ha

And before anyone comes along and says we're jealous, we are almost universally saying "poor child" and "let her be normal", those are not jealous words. So, your child is a genius? does that make her better than a child who isn't? and why put her in the paper? shocking!!!!

UnquietDad · 22/06/2007 15:06

But at what age will she start saying "Send home the scrounging asylum seekers" and "Single mothers, they're the worst?"

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Blueblob · 22/06/2007 15:07

Thanks Coppertop, that's what I was wondering. My eldest had huge developmental leaps when young but the younger one is more constant.

I come from a family where some of my siblings were early developers and always did really well at school and then work. Other siblings were labelled as being slow but by late teens were seen to be rather bright and strong talents. I on the other hand started off as an all singing, dancing chid and am now a bit fick

RosaLuxembourg · 22/06/2007 15:10

I'm sure she is a bright little girl but my DDs could do all those things at her age, including the speaking in sentences at 18m - and so can many other children. I can't see what the parents think they are achieving by shoving the kid in the Mail (or into Mensa for that matter) apart from make her the object of unkind comment from jealous people once she starts school.
FWIW my parents got me to do the Mensa test as a young teenager and I scored higher than her but do not remotely consider myself a genius nor does anyone who knows me

morocco · 22/06/2007 15:12

she looks a sweet little thing, lucky she's preschool age cos if she was a bit older she'd get loads of stick from her classmates. don't quite understand why you'd bother doing an iq test and then telling the world but there you go, something to talk about at baby group

SSSandy2 · 22/06/2007 15:14

I think the article cites unfortunate examples and that's why we are all just

Maybe 2 isn't the best age to do IQ tests. I'd give it another bash in 4 years time, score might be entirely different.

Do think it is unusual for a 2 year old to use (and understand) the word "arrogant" but it may be a word that has been emphasised around her in a way that made her pick up on it especially?

Find it hard to understand from that article why Georgia is so exceptional - but good luck to her and her parents

RosaLuxembourg · 22/06/2007 15:21

Re use of the word arrogant - DD3 had a very sophisticated vocabulary at two - the result of having two articulate older sisters and being included in teatime conversation every evening. I don't think it included arrogant but she certainly understood subtleties of language - for example I remember asking her whether something or other was the same as something else and she said 'No, but it is similar.'

Oblomov · 22/06/2007 15:32

My brother used the word "gingerly" to describe a cat, crossing the road, at the age of 2.
At the age of 35 he has the IQ of a moron.
hope that helps these attention seeking parents.

Blu · 22/06/2007 15:33

snort at UQD!

Oblomov · 22/06/2007 15:34

LOL at UQD

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