Does anyone else have a PG preschooler?

[RoboJesus]

Are you worried about them starting school? Considering a tutor? Private? Homeschool? The whole thing seems overwhelming if I'm honest. It feels like this country isn't set up to handle PG tots. The school mine has been offered does have a (i think from what they've said) HG child in reception who they've had to readjust for which is a bit of a relief though.

RoboJesus -are you suggesting I have no relevant qualifications to understand child development and no experience of bright children? How blinkered you are. You’re wrong on both counts, as happens.

DD2 extremely gifted at reception
Continued to be exceptional, and now year 9 and in an easy path for A* s

Guess what? All her friends have more or less caught up.

She has struggled socially and is a sticker for rules - she's not quite as well rounded or employable YET but she'll catch up and get there with support.

Don't do this to your child - let her be a kids and enjoy the benifits of being bright and finding school easy

I’m fascinated by what your dc is capable of if s/he could go to secondary school now, can you give some examples? What about her/his general knowledge and understanding of the world? Physical abilities? What has s/he said about it?

Stop being mean everyone - OP is simply after some PG tips.

You don’t mean me do you? I’m genuinely interested, I’m a teacher and have never met a child like this. I’ve also administered many iq subtests to children.
OP I think perhaps giving your child a kind of trial of a few different experiences could help them realise where they are stimulated and comfortable. I’m not sure schools would let a fs child go straight into y5 though.

Can I just ask how you discovered this? What's in place for a preschooler to determine their IQ? (Genuine question)

You can pay to have a child IQ tested (it was suggested to me but I'm not sure what the score would actually achieve! Or change)

The BAS can be used with children from 3

Can the professional that assessed your DC offer some ongoing advice and support?

Alternatively have you been in contact with this charity :

www.potentialplusuk.org/index.php/families/

I don't know if you have had much contact with Mensa yet, although IIRC their support tends to be for older children.

OP I wasn’t a super genius or anything as a child but was notably out of the ordinary by a long way. Quite a normal intelligent adult now. However I had a miserable time at school because I just had nothing in common with the other children. It’s left me with a sense of otherness. My advice would be to seek out children of similar abilities and hang out purely socially on a regular basis. That way your child will be able to develop normal social skills and friendships with children with similar knowledge and interests.

crepe it was a little tea-related joke. Sorry.

But what is gifted? Mine's 3.5, reads to year 1 level and does comprehension qs, can do addition and subtraction using numbers 1-10. Knows planets and halves and quaters and stuff. Not sure whether it's gifted or just normal for some and she'll even out.

I'm def not boasting. She never spoke a word until 2 and only uttered a sentence this time last year. Autism has yet to be ruled out.

I am going with let school decide.

OP have you had your child iq tested?

Yes, reading the thread, she's not gifted!!! Just gifted in having me as a mother which is a chore!

From what I have read so far, I don't think many of the posters on here really appreciate the social dilemma that profoundly gifted children face. A 4 year old child with an IQ of 180 will have much more in common (intellectually) with 12-14 year olds than with an average ability child their own age. The best outcome for the OP's son is likely to be to find other children of his own chronological age and intellectual abililty but that is only possible in a major city (and even then, there won't be many children of his ability).

Put it this way - there is a difference of 80 IQ points between the OP's child and the average child. This is the same magnitude of difference as between a child of average ability (by definition 100 IQ points) and a child with an IQ of 20 - profoundly intellectually impaired. This is why it is so difficult for the OP to find the right environment for her son - an environment that caters to his intellectual AND social development.

In that last sentence 'intellectual' should really be 'academic'.

Oh ha ha can’t believe I missed that!

I’m always confused when I hear about really high IQ results (eg 180) as the commonly used standardised ones only go up to 145 (BAS3) or 160 (WISC) (WISC can only be used from age 6). Yes you can get online tests etc but a psychologist would use a standardised assessment. The photo shows how scores are distributed.

Everything BrieAndChilli said.

A child who is advanced enough to be years ahead of their peers needs the other stuff to become a well rounded person.

Catsize

A psychologist will use additional testing to accurately assess children above 160. There is a preschool version of the wisc too.

From what I have read so far, I don't think many of the posters on here really appreciate the social dilemma that profoundly gifted children face.

Except some of us do. Academically advanced children are not all that unusual - some of us have had them, some of us have been them. (Although I feel stupid typing "academically advanced" in relation to three and four year olds,)

i can tell you with absolute personal confidence that shoving children into classes with much older children is a recipe for misery - a few classes, maths etc, is OK, but wholesale shoving children into the full school experience of older children really isn't great for anyone.

Also, while of course it's enjoyable for kids to have peers who like the things that they like, and on the same level, that's not the be-all and end-all of social interaction. My DS was reading at two and a half (yes that's implausible, yes it happened anyway, no I didn't hothouse him), got 100% in maths in his first lot of SATS and yet one of his best friends in KS1 was a lad with learning difficulties who couldn't count to thirty. They both got a lot out of their friendship with each other.

Oh, and he's now a very bright but not genius-level teenager. Putting all that pressure on a very small child is asking for trouble.

There is plenty of research evidence to suggest that acceleration, even radical acceleration, is a valid method for providing for the academic and social needs of profoundly gifted students. Sometimes it is the only method that can help if the child is 3 or more standard deviations above the average of the other children in their chronologically-appropriate class.

But that doesn't take away anything from the experience of you and your son - that's great that he found a best friend in the way that he did.

It's funny that people who don't have kids will special educational needs or a degree in child development and education love declaring that my child must not exist,

Wow OP, how on earth did you manage to research the posters who disagree with you to such an extent that you know their educational levels and what their children are like? Too bad you got it wrong in several instances.

Hilarious