Does anyone else have a PG preschooler?

[RoboJesus]

Are you worried about them starting school? Considering a tutor? Private? Homeschool? The whole thing seems overwhelming if I'm honest. It feels like this country isn't set up to handle PG tots. The school mine has been offered does have a (i think from what they've said) HG child in reception who they've had to readjust for which is a bit of a relief though.

Oh I wanted pg to mean postgraduate

You clearly don't want to chat to other parents as you point blank refuse to answer anyone you consider beneath you and your made up on the spot acronym.

We have no idea what you are trying to say or ask, OP. You've not explained how your child is gifted. It's difficult to give you any proper advice at all when you just state that they are PG and you don't need to explain yourself any further. I refer you to my earlier statement that being able to communicate, understand and get along with peers from their own age group is a valuable skill to have that your child will miss out on if you push them up too far, too fast. You yourself are showing all the signs of being unable to communicate, understand and get along with other mothers. Stop and think - by hoping to get your child in a group of a different age of children you are removing their chances of developing emotional intelligence and communication skills. A school will always find it easier to stretch a clever child's brain than it will to establish basis normal human skills in a person who missed years of these skills in their early education.

I'd happily try to help you @RoboJesus - I have many friends who are educators in various forms - but I simply don't understand enough about your situation.

Could you start another thread with a more clear opening post as to what your situation actually is?

It's very difficult to help the OP as I have gone through all the pages and there are no answers to any of the questions.

At a young age, a nursery/pre-school that focuses on Montesori method seems to be more appropriate.

As for primary school, in my experience they can (some are very good) at accommodating children who are of high ability, but I have never met a child who is PG so I would think that home schooling with lots of socialising would be an option. Where I live loads of children are home-schooled and they all get together to socialise, go swimming, do various museum visits, get together for language lessons, cooking lessons etc. The children are not isolated. Parents pitch in together to pay for good private tutors.

I have a child who is just G&T (high ability) in Maths (and very good in all subjects) and the school has been good at dealing with him - they have been good but not brilliant. Many of my expectations were not met.

There are so many extra-curricular activities available these days, private music lessons, coding lessons, language courses, part of his talents have been developed that way and not at school.

The social aspect is so important though, OP. Please don't underestimate it. If a child cannot develop well socially and be able to form friendships and relationships, you would do them a disservice for their future.

I also know of a few highly intelligent people who did exceptionally well at school, and they had nervous breakdowns in their early adulthood because of all the pressure they had put upon themselves. Achieving a good balance is so important.

yeah, no idea what's going on here. Super hard to work out in what way the child needs support, or what level they are actually working at, in order to be able to offer sensible advice.
op, my dd2 taught herself to read before she could talk. We didn't know she could read. And ds1 figured out multiplication and whatnot by his third birthday (no idea how, he just understood numbers). His nursery school (he started nursery early on his third birthday as his younger sibling was brain damaged at birth and we had no family support) contacted the LEA for advice on what to do with him.
Anyhoo, neither are PG by the official terms, and I'm not sure how a toddler picks up a PG dx if I'm honest (the earliest we were able to get proper assessments done was 4/5 and we used school aged tests as the pre-school ones are pretty junky and easy to top out).

So... if you want to try again, explaining what your chid is doing currently, capabilities, how you were assessed etc, and give us a bit more of a clue about what your concerns are, we might be able to help... otherwise, your posts make as much sense as mind do, which isn't a great deal....

Wow, OP, people really are as ridiculous on this thread!

Do you have a Montessori nearby? Kids there work in modules and can skip right to the top in areas they’re advanced in, but areas they’re still working at they get extra help with until they complete the module and move on. So they can skip to grade 6 maths while working on grade 1 social skills or whatever. The teachers there are very happy to stretch kids and in my experience have none of the prejudice you’ll find from some uninformed teachers elsewhere (plenty of examples on these pages).

If you have no Montessori look for other things to amuse your child. Think lots of access to learning music, varied lunch clubs that actually teach new and interesting skills, and consider a bilingual school so they’re not bored while the other kids are learning to read etc. You don’t necessarily have to go private for this but you might have to shop around a lot.

Take a letter from your child’s psychologist to the school outlining the kind of skills he has and make sure they’re prepared to give him challenging work before you enroll him there.

Having looked up what "PG" means, my brother certainly falls into that category.

He attended a completely normal primary school and then went to the local comp. He excelled sometimes and failed sometimes, and worked hard sometimes and messed about sometimes.

He got an O level equivalent aged about 12/13 from a hobby he did in his own time, but other than that did a normal amount of qualifications in school at the normal ages.

He got the highest mark awarded that year from his university, and rose straight to the top of his profession, and is about to be awarded his third PhD in 20 years, from hobbies he has done in his own time whilst working full time and raising a family.

He is rich and successful, also a kind, funny, happy, securely married, successful involved family man.

And the family an aspect of him is the only relevant bit, as far as we are concerned, the high flying, world class genius bit probably matters at work, but he spends less than half his life there, and home life is so much more important for happiness and satisfaction.

Thank fully the fact that he is one of the great genius's of his era has never ever been in any way the important, or most emphasised or significant aspect of him

Thank fully the fact that he is one of the great genius's of his era has never ever been in any way the important, or most emphasised or significant aspect of him

It’s a good thing his parents understood and gave him access to those hobbies.

it’s a good thing his parents understood and gave him access to those hobbies.

actually they had almost no input, their involvement consisted of driving him to a few activities he wanted to participate in when he was little, but not more than driving the rest of us to ballet lessons or brownies.

Our mother died before he went to school, and out father worked 12+ hours a day, so he had very little parenting.

Considering some of the descriptions suffocating intensity some NM mothers seem to be subjecting their intelligent children to, he was probably very very lucky in that respect.

No idea, do we routinely IQ test preschoolers?

No, usually just when a developmental psychologist thinks it would be appropriate.

Just scrolling back through this board and wondered how the start of school has gone, OP?

I was also wondering how the start of school (if school was chosen) is going.

And to recap on the question from last June (2 posts ago, as this is an old thread), no, IQ testing is usually only carried out when there is cause for concern.

It is not at all reliable under the age of 6 or 7. I had one DC done aged 9 or 10 (I suspected dyslexia, school didn't, so I paid for report)and the other as soon as she was old enough for an assessment that anyone would give any credence to at all.

So I hope OP did put her DC into reception. And then, perhaps working with SENCO, deal with sorting out a sufficiently differentiated curriculum one in KS2.

School doesn't start until next week

IQ testing is usually only carried out when there is cause for concern.

It is not at all reliable under the age of 6 or 7.

While 7 is the sweet spot for testing, if you have a PG child you will have noted the difference between them and other children and, as evidenced on this thread, people just won’t believe their abilities unless you have it in black and white. Most parenta will retest a few years later for a better result but it is often necessary to test before school so parents can communicate effectively with schools. A PG child may need to skip several grades and it’s hard to get this done without a full report. Also I don’t know how you would know they were actually PG unless a professional had weighed in?

OP it is very odd that you refer to your own child as a PG. Us humans have children/DC/kids/sons/daughters, not PGs.

www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/gifted-kids/201108/private-testing-gifted-kids-if-and-when%3famp

There’s a bit of relevant information on the above site:

“IQ scores obtained before age 4 or so can be highly unstable. These scores become relatively stable after age 4 1/2 and continue to stabilize as children get older.”

It also goes into the reasons to test a child.

OP it is very odd that you refer to your own child as a PG. Us humans have children/DC/kids/sons/daughters, not PGs

Presumably that’s because you don’t have a PG child? It’s kind of relevant to the discussion to mention the PG don’t you think? 🤔

Back to basic comprehension for you. And maybe some counselling to figure out why you feel so inadequate.

as evidenced on this thread, people just won’t believe their abilities...

A preschool child who has worked out proofs for all the circle theories, the sine and cosine rules and the formula for the internal angles of a polygon for themselves? You can count me in as one of the people not finding this credible. Next we will hear he is reading up on string theory. Oh, we already have.

Actually I say "he", but it could equally be "she", as I do not think the OP has said the gender of dc.

i think if you honestly think your child needs significantly different work to their peers then i is worth looking at homeschooling. Or have you actually spoken to a school and asked how they would meet his needs? You might be surprised.
Just rememember whatever you choose, isnt a final decision. You could always try him at school but if you felt it wasnt suitable or he was getting bored, you could take him out. I dont know about your area, but in mine there are loads and loads of home school events and activities and an active commnity where age is mostly irrelevent in all but the most formal clubs. There is so much information out there with the internet, and theres also online schools which are usually more open to moving children up or down years when appropriate, although most of them wont enrol at your childs age, and tbh, its probably unecessary. He/she may be very gifted, but that doesnt change the fact its a small child in every single way and needs to be treated as any other child,

This thread reminds me of when I use to work in university student recruitment and a 17 year old lad asked me if he could just go straight onto a 3rd year of a degree as he really didn't think he would learn anything new in the first two years....his parents just stood next to him agreeing and acting like I was the outrageous one for explaining that's not how it works.

I used that as an example of how not to impress a university for years

Firstly don't worry. Secondly, kids learn at different rates, kids who seem way ahead at 4, may not be by 7 and vice versa. School teaches lots of soft skills especially cooperation, being able to read and do maths young doesn't mean they don't have a lot to learn. My daughter started school able to read chapter books, her maths was 3-4 years ahead too but just sitting and working with others was a steep learning curve (she is autistic spectrum). If schools seem less than interested it is because lots of parents are telling them their kid is gifted, especially in affluent areas with pushy parents - schools want young kids to be allowed to be kids and learn at their own pace rather than hot housed (which I've seen a lot)

I wasjustabouttosaythat

I think your comprehension needs some improvement. Your post says as much about you as the poster who calls their child a PG as opposed to referencing their ability.

In fact I'd go as far as saying that your response to my post is a pile of steaming shite.