$20,000 offer to first doctor to drink vaccine cocktail

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Heres the link: gentlebirth.org/nwnm.org/VaccineOffer.htm

THE FOLLOWING OFFER is made to U.S.-licensed medical doctors who routinely administer childhood vaccinations and to pharmaceutical company CEOs worldwide:

Jock Doubleday, president of the California nonprofit corporation Natural Woman, Natural Man, Inc., hereby offers $20,000.00 (U.S.) to the first medical doctor or pharmaceutical company CEO who publicly drinks a mixture of standard vaccine additive ingredients in the same amount as a six-year-old child is recommended to receive under the year-2000 guidelines of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The mixture will not contain viruses or bacteria dead or alive, but will contain standard vaccine additive ingredients in their usual forms and proportions. The mixture will include, but will not be limited to: thimerosal (a mercury derivative), ethylene glycol (antifreeze), phenol (a disinfectant dye), benzethonium chloride (a disinfectant), formaldehyde (a preservative and disinfectant), and aluminum.

Cant wait for the first doctor to do it!

thanks spidermama, might do that.

I understand senora, but mmddww's posting an idea initiated by someone else and inviting comment on it.

I wouldn't deny it's an extremely sensitive issue, which is also polarised. Traditionally both sides have been vehement in their assertions and I wonder if a similar post on the other side of the debate would have attracted so much negativity.

i have to say that i disagree with the posters that have slated mmwwdd. i think it is indeed sensationalist, but also interesting to see if a dr would drink this stuff (far far less risky surely than injecting it into the bloodstream???? don't agree with you at all QoQ there)

i also don't agree necessarily that the 'cause' is to individualise vax programs jj. i think it is not only ok, but imo important to question the whole thinking behind vaccination altogether. mmwwdd does it with a sledgehammer, but at least someone is doing it. jj you are always going on about what a holy cow so called immunisation is, so why round on someone that is trying to (albeit crassly) question it? i dont' get it, i don't get why you are so anti either socci??????

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sophable- partly for the reasons that Socci mentions, and partly because along with a lot of others (especially on SN) a lot of time this week has been spent answering sensationalist arguments. I don't think this is helpful, following on from a thread where mmddww called scientists liars. It just gets people's backs up.

Sorry the 'cause' I mentioned was my own. Yes I agree with questioning vaccination, but saying that scientists make everything up, and suggesting that doctors will happily inject crap into your baby when they won't drink it for any amount of money just makes the 'debate' ludicrous, and it loses all credibility.

MMDDWW- you have frequently said during the last week said that we're not positive about intervention or "recovery", and that in American sites everyone is more positive. I agree we're not yee hah- but we are realistic. The % of adults with autism living independently in the UK vs USA is pretty much the same (off the top of my head may have been slightly higher in the UK- but pretty much identical).

i wasn't having a go at either of you. it just strikes me that the party line on one side is considered reasonable and sane and some of it is just as based on nonsense, fear and rubbish as any propaganda on the other side.

anyway. don't know why we have these debates given that mums who've vaccinated feel v v defensive about that decision, likewise mums that have chosen not to. its too emotive isnt it? i'm tired.

yes that's true- but better to point out the nonsense than come back with your own? true about it being emotive

i know. hope you're ok. things going relatively okish? x

things going well within the realms of realism. No miracles, but a much happier boy since moving schools. Much happier parents as well. HIs school is simply marvellous.

spidermama - a sensationalist post on the other side of the debate would have received a similar response I think. Many of the posters on this thread have not vaccinated their children.

the personality bashing only started after mdw's first defensive reaction.

sophable - I would drink the additives from any one jab any day, but the artcile is obviously talking about a mixture that no baby would receive at the same time. Note that the "challenge" wasn't to receive the jabs in adult doses? That's because many many doctors would do that, I think.

I agree with Jimjams that its far more helpful to challenge things like thimerosil on the basis of whether or not it is necessary etc. I also disagree that the vaccination programme is a "holy cow" - you can't open a bleedin paper these days without some scare story or another.

I agree with spidermama in an earlier Email. My DS is due his MMR vaccine and would have liked to discuss the pros and cons and options available like single jabs, but I would not dare to start a thread on this. God forbid !

strting a thread on the pros and cons of MMR and its alternatives is not the same as starting a thread which sets out to alarm.

search on MMR in the archives and you'll find a few well reasoned threads (along with several where someone has stropped off for one reason or another).

there's plenty on the mmr- do a search, then start one. as long as it isn't "challenge you to drink the mmr" you'll be fine.

it's been mentioned already- but several of us on this thread haven't vaccinated. ds2 and ds3 have had nothing at all. we think ds1 is vaccine damaged- to the point where he'll never live independently. i still don't think this sort of thread is helpful.