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$20,000 offer to first doctor to drink vaccine cocktail

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mamadadawahwah · 17/07/2005 21:25

Heres the link: gentlebirth.org/nwnm.org/VaccineOffer.htm

THE FOLLOWING OFFER is made to U.S.-licensed medical doctors who routinely administer childhood vaccinations and to pharmaceutical company CEOs worldwide:

Jock Doubleday, president of the California nonprofit corporation Natural Woman, Natural Man, Inc., hereby offers $20,000.00 (U.S.) to the first medical doctor or pharmaceutical company CEO who publicly drinks a mixture of standard vaccine additive ingredients in the same amount as a six-year-old child is recommended to receive under the year-2000 guidelines of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The mixture will not contain viruses or bacteria dead or alive, but will contain standard vaccine additive ingredients in their usual forms and proportions. The mixture will include, but will not be limited to: thimerosal (a mercury derivative), ethylene glycol (antifreeze), phenol (a disinfectant dye), benzethonium chloride (a disinfectant), formaldehyde (a preservative and disinfectant), and aluminum.

Cant wait for the first doctor to do it!

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mamadadawahwah · 17/07/2005 22:56

Actually begs the question why are YOU still here. I have just explained why i posted this thread and others. Nothing MNers like better it appears than an argument. NOt a debate mind, but an argument. How many posters on this now?

We all have free will to a degree. So why are you here? It would be pretty boring talking about big brother and breastfeeding all day long now wouldnt it.

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snafu · 17/07/2005 22:58

If you'd like to find my recent posts on Big Brother or breastfeeding I'd be happy to give you that point. Don't think you will though.

I'm here because I'm still waiting for you to tell me exactly what debate your first post was hoping to spark.

Flum · 17/07/2005 22:58

SCRAP SCRAP SCRAP !!!!!

and I haven't even read a post. bet i'm right though innit

Jimjams · 17/07/2005 22:58

I think SP - if I remember correctly they take the baby jabs and the pre-school jabs and adjust upwards for weiight (so its the jabs a child would have received by age 6 adjusted for adult weight). It makes a point that a lot of the additives are not ones you woould choose to inject you're 8 week old with- but imo in a rather unhelpful manner. I mean for example thimerosal has now gone for paediatric jabs- but lets argue to remove it because its a) unecessary (costs something like $1 dollar more per jab to make without) and b) a potential neorotoxin to susceptible children.

mamadadawahwah · 17/07/2005 22:59

I dont recall EVER accusing ANYONE of giving up on their kids. Where on EARTH did you get that.

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snafu · 17/07/2005 22:59

So now you're getting annoyed because there are too many people posting on your thread?

Jimjams · 17/07/2005 23:00

Not reallly Flum- I think most of us are in agreement- no matter what we've done with our kids.

SenoraPostrophe · 17/07/2005 23:00

you haven't explained it really though.

SenoraPostrophe · 17/07/2005 23:01

last post was to mdw, not jj. this thread is moving too fast!

hunkermunker · 17/07/2005 23:03

I have posted on all kinds of things tonight, BB and breastfeeding included. Even pig sperm

Should I be having debates about things MDW finds interesting instead?

mamadadawahwah · 17/07/2005 23:05

What i wanted in this thread was for someone, anyone out there to think "jeez, yeah, if its so safe, let them drink it!" My own doctor (my new one) told me she dosent vaccinate her kids. She didnt say this on the QT, she just said its parents choice. I am not debating the pros and cons of vaccinating here, though some are. As I said, I dont care what you do with your kids. They are your responsibility.

I would have hoped that somebody would pipe up and say, hmmm, interesting idea. Doctors who say its so safe, well let them drink their own medicine. The proof will be in the pudding if a doctor steps up and drinks the potion. If they dont get a volunteer, why?

Why do people post regarding big brother? Why do they post on chat? Maybe its the category i put it in, though I think this post really deserves to be in the health section. Cause any doctor who drinks this stuff is gonna be sick.

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mamadadawahwah · 17/07/2005 23:06

Snafu, where is your logic?????????????????????

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hunkermunker · 17/07/2005 23:07

I'd drink it. If I wasn't pg.

mamadadawahwah · 17/07/2005 23:07

I am far from annoyed. I never get annoyed on Mumsnet. I find answers to my questions informative sometimes and helpful. But I never get annoyed. There are millions of people to get annoyed with and certainly for far worse things than what is said on the ether in a forum.

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WigWamBam · 17/07/2005 23:08

Debates tend to be conducted in such a way that those involved discuss both sides of the argument, and listen to the various points of view which are raised. You say that it's a debate, MMDDWW, but I see very little evidence of you actually wanting a debate - you don't seem to want to listen to anyone else's point of view.

snafu · 17/07/2005 23:08

My logic about what?????????????????

spidermama · 17/07/2005 23:11

I was interested in the original posting. It reminds me of Micheal Moore techniques or the guy who did Supersize me. Similar approach. Not very scientific, but headline grabbing.

Perhaps it was posted to prompt a debate. I'm always up for a debate.

I'm newish to mumsnet so don't really know the history of any debates you have had re jabs.

I don't think MMDDWW has been aggressive. On the contrary, she seems to have been rounded on from what I can glean.

I don't quite understand why people don't just ignore threads which irritate them and allow those of us who want to debate these issue to do so, regardless of whether or not they've been covered before.

mamadadawahwah · 17/07/2005 23:12

Snafu, just said I am not annoyed and certainly not annoyed at people on this thread, or too many people on the thread. I dont know where you get that from???

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spidermama · 17/07/2005 23:14

Why can't people discuss issues, or decline to discuss them, rather than discussing the attributes of the person who initiated the debate.

If you don't like a subject matter, or the way it has been presented, choose another thread which is more to your taste.

AnOldLadyScent · 17/07/2005 23:14
Grin
snafu · 17/07/2005 23:15

Oh, you just seemed a little snippy, that's all. My mistake.

Well, I'm to my bed. I look forward to reading over the finer points of this debate in the morning.

snafu · 17/07/2005 23:15

Aaaah, oldladyscent, thought I noticed you hanging around earlier...

ruty · 17/07/2005 23:17

spidermama i'd love to talk to you about the vaccine issue, as someone who is still undecided but veering one way. I am hesitant to do so for fear of getting jumped upon as i have in the past a little bit. But i do always respect what jimjams and socci have to say and it seems the issue has to be approached with caution cos everyone feels so strongly about it...

spidermama · 17/07/2005 23:19

Hi again ruty. Feel free to drop me an email through member whateverit'scalled. I know this is possible as someone else did it once.

I would just say, don't feel pressurised into rushing into a decision before you're happy that you've researched it fully.

SenoraPostrophe · 17/07/2005 23:19

the way an issue is presented is an integral part of the issue though, spidermama. If something is unneccesarily sensationalist then the issue itself becomes lost and people are entitled to comment on that.