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Alas poor cigarette, I knew you well

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mummylonglegs · 29/05/2005 22:49

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charliecat · 12/06/2005 17:29

Im fine...just had my dinner and am ignoring the dishes
Have you picked a date yet?

Here is this blooming link dropinthe

charliecat · 12/06/2005 17:33

Custardo Ive just read something you wrote on another thread about the weds night cleaning...ME TOO! Except mine was a friday.....and one day I didnt do it...after a good few years of doing it every bloody friday....and my mum went apeshit. I felt like bopping her, its not like she had asked me too, ever, I just did...

Tortington · 12/06/2005 17:54

i was just useless as a kid. i was specifically asked to do it - and didn't not do it becuase iwanted to be horrible or becuase of any teenage angs - it really was becuase i forgot - but i forgot almost every week - so my excuse never cut it!

mummylonglegs · 12/06/2005 21:46

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charliecat · 12/06/2005 21:50

I remember being really pissed off with my mum and my sister for smoking up my nephews nose, hes 16 now...and I used to whinge at them that it was bad for him and they would plead ignorance...and id say but its not good for you OR him and they would totally ignore me. yet I still smoked, and whilst pregnant and in front of my kids. Total F*ing Idiot.

But it just goes to show.

mummylonglegs · 13/06/2005 20:45

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charliecat · 13/06/2005 22:29

I remember all too well. I never sat in a smoke filled room with them but I did forever say Be Right Back...im just going out for a fag...like 20 x a day. Mum...yep 2 minutes...mum...yep hold on...OH gawd...awful.
Now I cannot stand the 2 mins dp and my mum spend outside garden centres and before we go out etc etc I just think OMG to think I used to spend my time doing that....now i wanna just get on with what we are aiming for.

serah · 13/06/2005 23:35

dropinthe... I was only working out a way to sell a piece of "purest green" on Ebay earlier. Not your sort though.... eewwww!! (hey, although, now you mention it.......)

Funny thing smoking, innit? I gave up on April 14 last year - I agreed with my dad who despite never smoking was going for chemo/radio that I'd pack in if he kept his chin up - I was doing it via the Allen Carr method (reading his book)and was timing the read for his admission date. Found out I was pregnant the week before, but was still unable to stop until my planned date (albeit down to around 5 cigarettes a day from 20-40 depending on alcohol consumed).

Even if you have already quit, the Allen Carr book is one of the best reads you'll ever have. Being pregnant helped, but I have not looked back 6 months later and being in the presence of other people that smoke makes no difference.

Good luck to you in not smoking. In 10 years I'd tried patches, gum, inhaler, hypnotherapy, willpower, accupuncture, zyban, all convinced that would be the one to crack it. All it took was reading a sodding book and changing the way I perceived smoking in the end!!

Tortington · 14/06/2005 11:55

hiya how is everyone doing?

well i am not obsessivley possessed with all consuming NEED to smoke anymore.

i actually made my moth sore last week with the amount of chewing gum - and i realised lae yesterday that i havent had the NEED to buy 5 packets of chewing gum since saturday.

i need gum or mints whilst ont he way to work - its becuase of the stress factor.

am waiting for the time when i wake up in the morning and dont think about it until around dinner time. .....when is that? i do remember this happening lastt ime i gave up 2 years ago. and i remember thnking - i've cracked it now - becuase i wasn't thinking about it when i woke up.

Tortington · 14/06/2005 11:56

mouth* not moth - i am not guilty of moth beating

lunachic · 14/06/2005 14:14

have read alan carr serah it is a good book -problem for me is staying stopped- i can give up for long time and then start have done this a few times -i dont smoke loads though

my worst childhood smoking memory is being trapped in the back of a mini on holiday in wales listening to an abba (on 8 track lol !) and my parents both smoking in the front (they had windows open but i was still gased) i HATED smoking till i was about 17 and look at me now ...

mummylonglegs · 14/06/2005 14:30

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weesaidie · 14/06/2005 15:12

Wanders in, looks around tentatively and quickly backs out before anyone notices her....

Another will power failure! Well done to all you stronger ladies!

charliecat · 14/06/2005 15:42

Whats happening weesaidie? Have you beent o whyquit.com? Invaluable information there....go see!
Havent thought about fags first thing for what seems like a long long time...I see dp rolling out of bed and I know that the motivation for him geting out of bed is nicotine. Sad to see but so so so so so nice not to be there.
No longer desire them, and even if i did...they are not worth it, would I really want to go throught that again? No Way..
..oh for any triers, The only way to stop smoking is to keep trying, you learn something new every time and one of those trys will be the forever one!

weesaidie · 14/06/2005 16:41

I only smoke in the evenings now but just seem to have the willpower to push myself any further.... yet!

weesaidie · 14/06/2005 16:42

Good on you though Charliecat... one day it shall be me!!

Tortington · 14/06/2005 21:28

i walked to the shop with dh - who i must say is suffering more than me in the willpower stakes. he bought a pack of hamlet - and am not bothered. he bought me some 'creme' lady cigars or femigars as dh named them. anyway lit one up took a puff and it felt like i was 16 all over again when it hit the back of my throat and nearly killed me - i hated it put it out and gave them to him to smoke at work.

charliecat · 14/06/2005 21:44

Its all nicotine custardo, I tryed to smoke joints in the vague hope that as its name wasnt cigarette that I wasnt really feeding my addiction...Dont do it again! 1 puffs often 1 too many!

evansmummy · 14/06/2005 22:13

3 weeks today!!

cc, how long did it take for you to stop thinking about it. I STILL do after every meal and with every glass of wine.

(Have slowed down on the booze, btw. Was getting silly really )

mummylonglegs · 14/06/2005 22:31

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charliecat · 14/06/2005 22:42

I read this until i could recite it backwards...

For the benefits of newbies wondering if they will ever stop wanting a cigarette, I thought I would elaborate on the concept of "urges" that happen weeks, months or even years into a quit. When we say that the urge hits after any significant time period after being smoke free, it is a desire or a thought for a cigarette that is different than the physical "urge" experienced during initial withdrawal. Those urges are physiological craves, the body demanding nicotine to alleviate a drug withdrawal state.
The thoughts that happed down the road are triggers of fond memories. The thought is often that it seems like a good idea now to smoke a cigarette. Kind of like the urge you get to clean your house on a slow day. Seems like a good idea for a few seconds, but if you find something better to do, so be it. The same concept holds true for the thought of a cigarette.

Other times there will be thoughts of "I used to smoke when I did this." Not a desire for a cigarette or smoking, but a feeling that your timing or ritual is off. Sometimes there may even be a feeling that you are supposed to be doing "something" right now, but do not even realize what it is. All of a sudden you realize you used to smoke at this particular juncture of time or a specific new situation. Again, it is not that you want or need a cigarette in these two cases, just that the routine was a little off.

Years into a quit though, most days ex-smokers will go days, weeks and maybe even months without a thought. Even days which they call "bad" with desires, they may be going 23 hours and 59 minutes and 50 seconds without a thought, but because they think of it once, they think that was a lot. It really does get easier and easier.

The alternative side, smoking, is constantly riddled with thought of quitting. Whenever you are going to a doctor, a non-smoking friends or family home where you want to visit but cannot smoke, getting a new symptoms or aggravated by a chronic problem, read a news headline or hear a news report on television or radio on a new danger from smoking, have to pay another price increase for cigarettes, find another friend who has quit while you do not, stand outside in blizzards or heat waves or torrential downpour for the luxury of getting a quick fix or experience some horrible withdrawal because you can't escape for a cigarette or heaven forbid, you run out of cigarettes.

Yes there were plenty of times smoking made your life totally unmanageable. Not to mention the times that may come where a diagnosis of a horrible condition that require extraordinary measures to save your life that in themselves are almost as terrifying and painful as the disease itself. That unpleasant scenario still provides a chance of survival. There are frequently the cases where the first real symptom of a smoking induced illness is sudden death. Then you don't even have a chance to save your life.

As an ex-smoker, there may be times you want a cigarette. As a smoker, there will be times you want to quit. Neither side is perfect, but the ex-smoker side has clear advantages. It will get easier and easier over time getting to the point of smoking becoming a thing of the past. The smoking side leads to a much more ominous road.

Keep focused, whether it is hours into a quit or decades into a quit. It was a good decision to quit, maybe the most important decision you have made in your life as far as quality and length of your life goes. To keep the decision alive and continue to reap the benefit, always remember, Never Take Another Puff!

charliecat · 14/06/2005 22:43

For all of you with smoking other halfs!

charliecat · 14/06/2005 22:44

One of the things we face as quitters is the transition from being smokers to ex-smokers. Early in your quit, you're a smoker in withdrawal. Eventually, you're a smoker who's not using. At some point, you do actually become an EX-smoker.

It's a scary transition for anyone to undergo mentally. Years upon years of memories are associated with smoking. A mountain of stressful situations that we dulled (and in doing so, partially avoided dealing with) by administering nicotine. The belief that we NEED that drug to get through these situations in the future.

In a sense, we're newborns, facing a new world, and not sure what to expect. We're children, and children are often frightened by the unknown. As our conscious decision to reach out to this new world and embrace it becomes more and more real and tangible, the fear within us makes us want to run back, grab the security blanket, and hide under the covers. It's like the monster under the bed.

And, like the monster under the bed when we're small, the best way to deal with the unknown is to face it, to understand it. As long as we hide under the blankets, the monster under the bed grows bigger, scarier, more menacing. Once we finally get the courage to lean over the matress, and stare under the boxspring... only then do we understand there's nothing to be frightened of. If we avoid looking under the bed, seeing the "monster" for what it is, we risk letting that "monster" dominate our conscience, and drive our actions.

Right now, you're dealing with your monster. There's the fear of failure (you've been down this road before). There's the fear of success (oh my God, what am I going to do now that I won't have cigarettes to help me?). And there is the voice in your ear telling you things: You want a cigarette, you can handle JUST one, you NEED just this one, this crave is going to last forever, this crave is unbearable, quitting is just TOO DAMN HARD, I wasn't meant to quit, I'm not strong enough.

It's time to look the monster in the eye. It's time to confront the voice. There are non-scary answers to the things it's telling you.

Fear of failure: Yes, I've been down this road before, but I didn't understand that I'm an addict, and that for the addict, one puff is the same as a million. I will never be able to take another puff without recommitting to a life of dependancy. I've learned this the hard way in the past, even though I might not have understood the lesson at the time. Now that I know, I know that I won't take that puff.

Fear of success: Millions of people have moved from smoking to a life without smoking. Some have had more difficult situations to deal with than I have. All have discovered that the nicotine fix doesn't really help; it just masks. I belong to a group of hundreds of people who have travelled this road, and the fact that they're making it through family tragedy, poor health, good health, work stress, celebrations, raising kids, divorces, day-to-day life of all sorts, good times and bad times, without nicotine tells me that I can too. I'm an individual, and as such, I'm not 100% like anybody else, but I share little bits in common with many of these people, and from these similarities comes my understanding that I too can live my life in the absence of nicotine.

You want a cigarette: Do I? What do I want? Specifically? What about the cigarette do I crave? Okay, fine. Maybe I want the "ahhh" feeling. But, wait, I'm through withdrawal. The first cigarette won't even give me the "ahhh" feeling anymore, because the "ahhh" feeling came from nicotine's ability to stave off the early withdrawal I felt after not smoking for 30 minutes or an hour. Now that I'm no longer in withdrawal, I'll only get dizzy and sickly from the first one, and that first one will be followed by the next one and the next one as I search for the "ahhh" feeling, and long before I ever get the "ahh" feeling, I'll realize I'm hooked again. Heck, I'll realize it after the first one.

You can handle just one: Can I? Why is it that in the past when I said that to myself, it didn't work out like I planned? If I could get by on just one, why didn't I smoke just one every now and again when I smoked, instead of smoking all of those other ones I didn't want? No. There is no such thing as just one for me, or the other greater than 90% of the smokers out there who smoke whenever their addiction demands that they smoke.

You NEED just this one: Do I really believe that I NEED to inhale hundreds of toxic chemicals into my lungs to get through this given situation? Do I really believe that I need to recommit to my addiction so that I can dull the feelings associated with this situation.

This crave is going to last forever, this crave is unbearable, quitting is just TOO DAMN HARD: Okay, what does this crave really feel like? How long is it lasting? Is it really lasting all day long? Or, is my fear of the crave, and my fear of failure, or my fear of success, making me THINK about it all day long? For how many seconds have I actually WANTED to put a cigarette in my mouth, light it and inhale, as opposed to just being anxious about my lifestyle change, and all of the things associated with it. Am I feeling anxiety? Or am I really wanting a cigarette? Will smoking a cigarette make me feel better or worse than I do? Furthermore, I KNOW from talking to all the former smokers around me that this isn't what being an ex-smoker feels like! I'm in the latter stages of withdrawal, and the early stages of reconditioning my life to NOT revolve around my addiction. Soon, I will be feeling a lot better, and I'll have a hard time remembering how hard this has been. It's only hard for a while.

You weren't meant to quit, You're not strong enough: I wasn't meant to SMOKE. Smoking is not a natural thing. Ingesting deadly chemicals to satisfy a never-ending cycle of withdrawal and replenishing of nicotine supplies is NOT the way I was meant to live. I was MEANT to breathe freely. I was meant to taste my food. I was meant to have good breath. I was meant to be free. And I'm strong enough to realize that nicotine is stronger than me; that if I try just one, nicotine will win, and I'll be trapped. I'm strong enough to make it through this temporary difficulty, in order to live the life I was meant to live on the other side.

Confront the fear, and confront the voice. Our junky side doesn't fight fair, and uses confusing logic. It plays upon the parts of us that feel most vulnerable. The parts of us that want to hide and wish things away. You can eliminate the fear, and silence the voice by always looking it in the eye, seeing it for what it is, and never letting it get away without shedding the light of truth upon it.

Keep taking it one day at a time. One minute at a time if you need.... You'll get there. This is eminantly doable.

charliecat · 14/06/2005 22:46

Sorry but theres some good stuff there

mummylonglegs · 14/06/2005 22:56

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