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Fag Free Zone - Come and Join!

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mummylonglegs · 16/05/2005 22:24

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mummylonglegs · 26/05/2005 21:33

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charliecat · 26/05/2005 21:34

Oh FART. Low Low Low...thats why I was here trying to get you to work through it. There is one good thing in it...you cant kid yourself next time that 1s ok
Brave it out and start asfresh tommorow. I doubt 3 puffs will have awakened the Nicotine monster too much but this will have knocked your confidence to shit. Build it back up.

charliecat · 26/05/2005 21:37

You hanker after the illusion of it. The reality is quite foul.

mummylonglegs · 26/05/2005 22:00

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hub2dee · 26/05/2005 22:33

Get rid of all of them in the house mll.

Is there any mileage in addressing the cause of / reaction to the stress ?

Anyway - 3 puffs ? Could have been worse.

Get a good night's sleep !

mummylonglegs · 27/05/2005 10:49

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charliecat · 27/05/2005 11:14

Positive thinking MML. Its a VERY concious decision you make to smoke the fag. Fair enough picking one up...hankering after one...dreaming of the bloody things Fair Enough. But to actual pick one up and light it inhaling the fumes you can feel the doom from the minute you start thinking about it.
Theres an excellent article on whyquit...ill go and hunt it down. Something about Just One...the moment you start entertaining such thoughts they niggle at you and the next thing you know your smoking again.
You do need to fully get it in your head there is no just 1 just a wee bit...a few tokes. This is a decision you have made and you have to stick to.
Sorry preaching here, but im just trying to get you in the right frame of mind. Hope you dont mind the earbashing!
Wheres everyone else today? Isnt it hot?

Oh and I remember sitting on the bus one day thinking something like ...cancer would be better than this misery I was disgusted with myself but the intelligent side of my brain recognised it for what it really was. Gawd thats awful, at that point I really felt as if my own brain was turning against me. Not nice!

charliecat · 27/05/2005 11:18

"Maybe I am Different?"

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Maybe I am different? Maybe I can take a cigarette and not get hooked? Maybe the cigarette will make me so sick I will never want to take a cigarette again? Maybe I was never addicted anyway? Maybe I will just smoke for a little while and quit again when things are better? Maybe, maybe, maybe . . .?

Do you ever find that you are asking yourself these questions? If so, and the suspense of the answer is just killing you, I thought I would suggest two ways of finally putting these unresolved questions to rest. First, take a cigarette. This is a really effective way of realizing the potential for relapse by reinforcement of the nicotine addiction. And the cost for this valuable lesson is simply returning to the deadly, expensive, socially unacceptable habit and addiction to cigarettes. You can then either smoke until it cripples and kills you, or "just" quit again. Remember the last time? Smoke or quit, fun choice isn't it?

Of course there is another way of answering those perplexing questions of "maybe". Find a smoker who once quit smoking for a substantial period of time, say one year or longer, and then relapsed. Ask him how he liked not smoking. Ask him how he now likes smoking. Then ask the most important question, how did he return to smoking?

Let me venture a guess as to the answers to these three questions. "Not smoking was great. I hardly thought of cigarettes any more. I felt healthier, happier, even calmer. Cigarettes smelled repulsive. The thought of smoking at my old level was disgusting." To the second question, how do you now like smoking, the response will typically be, "I hate it, I smoke as much or even more than I did before. I feel more nervous, don't have as much energy, and generally feel like a fool when smoking in public. I sure wish I could quit again." The answer to the third and most important question of how did he return to smoking is almost always the same, "I took a cigarette."

It may have happened under stress, at a party, or at home alone with nothing special going on. Whatever the cause, the end result was the same--addiction to nicotine. Prior to taking the cigarette, he probably asked himself the same questions of "maybe". He found his answer. Your answer is the same. Learn from others' mistakes and not your own. Your smoking friend is stuck in the grips of a powerful and deadly addiction. Maybe he will get the chance and strength again to quit smoking, maybe he will smoke until it kills him.

You have successfully broken free of the nicotine addiction. While your smoking may have been a potential threat to your life in the past, now your risks are dropping down to that of a person who never smoked. As long as you stay off of cigarettes, you never will have to worry about the physical, psychological, social and economical risks of smoking again as long as you follow one simple practice...NEVER TAKE ANOTHER PUFF!

charliecat · 27/05/2005 11:20

"Just One Little Puff?"

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It is hard for many people to grasp the concept of how just one little puff can result in full-blown relapse. It just doesn't seem logical to some people. But should you ever find yourself debating the thought of whether or not you could possibly get away with smoking "just" one, think about what advice you would give to a family member or friend who you cared for tremendously, while knowing that they were a recovering heroin or cocaine addict who was for the first time in months or years considering attempting recreational use. Imagine your shock and horror at even the thought of it, especially if you were with them back during the peak of their addiction when it was ruining almost every aspect of life and maybe even putting his or her very life on the line.

Would you say to him or her, "well, maybe you are better now, maybe its worth finding out if you could handle just one?" Would you feel the need to do a little research in current journals to see if maybe ?one? is an option now? Would you maybe even delve into a few neurological journals to see if the scientists now have a better grip on neurotransmitter pathways that could explain why addiction happens? Then maybe you could say, "Well they are starting to understand a little more of how addiction works and maybe soon they can alter your brain physiology. So now, if you relapse it may not be a big deal for a cure is just around the corner--maybe even only a few years away.? It is more likely that you would you cut through the rationalization and say, "If you do it, you are going to be back where you were when you first had to quit. You are going to mess up your life and everyone around you."

The odds are you would go the latter route. You would be horrified and take a firm stand that he or she shouldn't do it -- it would be stupid and even worse, suicidal. Well there is no difference between this scenario and the concept of, ?Maybe I can have just one, now.?

Well there is actually one difference. It is not medically or physically based, but rather societal. Our societies have not been taught about nicotine addiction. People have been taught about addiction and other drugs. Even though nicotine is more addictive than most any other addictive substance, and maybe even the most addictive of all, people still don't grasp how any administration of the substance can cause a relapse, even though they are taught this about most other addictive drugs.

How often has someone asked you after he finds out that you have quit smoking the question, "You mean you haven't even had one?" This is such a ludicrous comment, and yet so common. Or how many times have you seen literature put out by medical organizations advising a recovering addict to not let a slip put them back to using? The message has been clear and consistent with other drugs, the message being don't slip.

Everyone here has been exposed to this discrepancy, not just since he quit, but also for years and decades while he still smoked. You now have to alter a way of thinking that is part of your culture, no matter what culture you are from. The pervasive attitude of the society around you is wrong.

The society may accept the danger of smoking but they do not yet grasp the concept of the addiction. You have to be smarter and more informed than the society around you, maybe even your health care provider. It is asking a lot of an individual to think differently than the society as a whole, but in regards to smoking it has to be done.

The consequence of not becoming fanatical against a puff is too serious to just dismiss. It will be the loss of your quit, and that can easily translate into loss of your health and eventually loss of your life. You have to be vigilant at all times, to keep reminding yourself that you are a recovering addict.

Over time there may be no signs of the addiction; thoughts of cigarettes may have become rare events now and maybe even non-existent. But even at this stage of the game, there is a silent addiction still there that can take you down with full force for making one miscalculation -- thinking that maybe you are different.

You are no different than any other drug addict, whether the drug was alcohol, cocaine, heroin, etc. You are an addict for life, but as long as you get the drug out of your system and never administer it again, you will never be set into the downward spiral that the drug sets into motion to its users. In regards to smoking, that spiral is loss of your freedom, your health and your life, which means you can lose everything.

To keep what you've got, always remember that to stay smoke free you must NEVER TAKE ANOTHER PUFF!

charliecat · 27/05/2005 11:21

With this puff I enslave myself
to a lifetime of addiction.
While I can?t promise to always love you,
I do promise to obey every craving and
support my addiction to you
no matter how expensive you become.

I will let no husband or wife,
no family member or friend,
no doctor or any other health professional,
no employer or government policy,
no burns or no stench,
no cough or raspy voice,
no cancer or emphysema,
no heart attack or stroke,
no threat of loss of life or limbs,
come between us.

I will smoke you forever
from this day forth,
for better or worse,
whether richer or poorer,
in sickness and in health,
till death do us part!

?You may now light the cigarette.?

?I now pronounce you a full-fledged smoker

charliecat · 27/05/2005 11:22

Quit Smoking Tip Sheet

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Quit cold turkey. In the long run it?s the easiest and most effective technique of smoking cessation.
Do not carry cigarettes.
Quit smoking one day at a time. Do not concern yourself with next year, next month, next week or even tomorrow. Concentrate on not smoking from the time you wake up until you go to sleep.
Work on developing the attitude that you are doing yourself a favor by not smoking. Do not dwell on the idea that you are depriving yourself of a cigarette. You are ridding yourself of full-fledged smoking because you care enough about yourself to want to.
Be proud that you are not smoking.
Be aware that many routine situations will trigger the urge for a cigarette. Situations which will trigger a response include: drinking coffee, alcohol, sitting in a bar, social events with smoking friends, card games, the end of meals. Try to maintain your normal routine while quitting. If any event seems too tough, leave it and go back to it later. Do not feel you must give up any activity forever. Everything you did as a smoker, you will learn to do at least as well, and maybe better, as an ex-smoker.
Make a list of all the reasons you want to quit smoking. Keep this list with you, preferably where you used to carry your cigarettes. When you find yourself reaching for a cigarette, take out your list and read it.
Drink plenty of fruit juice the first three days. It will help flush nicotine out of your system.
To help avoid weight gain, eat vegetables and fruit instead of candies and pastries. Celery and carrots can be used safely as short-term substitutes for cigarettes.
If you are concerned about weight gain, do some moderate form of regular exercise. If you have not been exercising regularly, consult your physician for a practical exercise program which is safe for you.
If you encounter a crisis, (e.g. a flat tire, flood, blizzard, family illness) while quitting, remember, smoking is no solution. Smoking will just complicate the original situation while creating another crisis, a relapse into the nicotine addiction.
Consider yourself a ?smoke-a-holic.? One puff and you can become hooked again. No matter how long you have been off, don't think you can safely take a puff!
Don't debate with yourself how much you want a cigarette. Ask yourself how do you feel about going back to your old level of consumption. Smoking is an all or nothing proposition.
Save the money you usually spend on cigarettes and buy yourself something you really want after a week or a month. Save for a year and you can treat yourself to a vacation.
Practice deep breathing exercises when you have a craving.
Go places where you normally can't smoke, such as movies, libraries and no smoking sections of restaurants.
Tell people around you that you have quit smoking.
Remember that there are only two good reasons to take a puff once you quit. You decide you want to go back to your old level of consumption until smoking cripples and then kills you, or, you decide you really enjoy withdrawal and you want to make it last forever. As long as neither of these options appeal to you - NEVER TAKE ANOTHER PUFF

hub2dee · 27/05/2005 12:01

Preacher's Convention.

evansmummy · 27/05/2005 12:16

Wonderful as always,cc. Ta very much

charliecat · 27/05/2005 12:43

No problem...if only dp and my mum would listen to my preaching id be a happy pussycat

charliecat · 27/05/2005 13:00

With 5 mins to spare here im just going to ramble. The shit thing about smoking is that you do it as a treat...you do the dishes and think to yourself...one more lot and i can go out for a fag...the kids are doing your head in so you sneak outside for a fag and let them get on with it while you appreciate the peace and quiet of your smoking corner
If you dont have a fag for a few hours you are so so so so so pleased to have one again...reinforcing in your head that you NEED it...and because you were starting to get a bit rattly about it you LIKED it.
Because half the pub is smoking it doesnt feel too much of a bad thing to be doing...you even find smokers outside hospitals so it cant be that bad...
What you dont see is the coffins of the ones it got before they could muster the strenght to give up. The familys of those grieving.
RRRrrrrrrrrr I personally have NO IDEA why the f*ing things are still on sale. I mean its not like we are under any illusion anymore.
Really does make me is there a campain I can join???!!!!!!!!!

hub2dee · 27/05/2005 13:15

cc: maybe dp and your ma need my style ?

ROAR !

Am surprised and disappointed your dp and ma have not followed your good example. Perhaps the 'following' of your 'example' is the issue, IYSWIM ? I suppose each in their own good time...

charliecat · 27/05/2005 13:19

My mum has smoked for about 30 something years. She sounds like she has lung cancer and its AWFUL to watch her suck on those poxy evil sticks. She now ignores anything I say about fags.
Dp trys regularly but survives a few hours and says he cant do it anymore. Bit like Fionas dh...how are you two BTW?
One day.....

hub2dee · 27/05/2005 13:46

(Sorry, do you mean and dw or are you talking about mll, 2A ?)

hub2dee · 27/05/2005 14:00

woops...

'do you mean me and dw'

(I'll answer anyway, pretending it was....

erm.... we're fine thanks. dw is in Week 31 of her first pg, I am fearing final decisions on moses basket vs. cot, and choosing nappies...

TwoAngels · 27/05/2005 14:10

h2d re: nappies I highly recommend tescos own not the cheapy white packet ones but the one in the purple packets they are made by a top brand for tescos but are cheaper in price and are fab no leaks or anything

CC do u know something I was saying the exact same thing to my mum weeks before my desion to quit re shops selling fags... this is my problem at the mo is whenever I go to the shops and they are there staring at me from behind the counter if u find a campaign I will join too

MLL hows u doing???

hub2dee · 27/05/2005 14:29

We're trying to go cloth, but if we choose to run with dispies to begin with, I'll keep an eye out for them. Thanks.

TwoAngels · 27/05/2005 14:40

sry h2d sry am a dispos mummy I forgot about the cloth nappies LOL boots do lots and am sure on the archives there are lots of threads with recommendations

mummylonglegs · 27/05/2005 15:14

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mummylonglegs · 27/05/2005 15:14

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hub2dee · 27/05/2005 15:28

LOL, mll.

LOL.

(maybe we'll fail miserably and see the beauty of dispies and I'll post you a very quiet message.... but I hope we can make it work !)

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