Hayfever causing a mild wheeze without asthma, has anyone had this?

[Summerdays1775]

As the title says, I suffer from hayfever but yesterday evening I noticed a wheeze when breathing, not very obvious but if I listened carefully I could hear it. This started around 7pm and lasted into the evening. I thought I felt mild throat tightness too but not sure if that was me panicking or not. I usually get hayfever but last year it was very mild. 3 years ago I had similar symptoms, got myself a ventolin inhaler from online GP but never used it (I was a bit scared!).
I don't have asthma and have no symptoms normally, it's just this mild wheeze I noticed when my hatfever was particularly bad yesterday. I also hasn't taken any antihistamines.
Has anyone experienced the same without having asthma and how did you manage?

Seasonal asthma because of hayfever is a thing. You need to see your GP.

@Rosiecloud thank you, I plan to call them tomorrow but wanted to hear others experiences first

Yes I get this. I use preventer inhaler pre the spring, and reliever ad hoc during the period. It can be bad/hayfever okay, or vice versa.

Inhalers - just follow the instructions re dosage (don't go over), and follow the leaflet re how to do it. You might also want to see the asthma nurse at GP surgery to discuss how to use it - it's possible to do it wrong.

@Datafan55 can I ask if you have a diagnosis of asthma or if you just use these for asthma symptoms during hayfever season?

Well, that's where it gets confusing.

I get asthma at other times, eg when I use certain meds. However this is relatively recent.

I always assumed the seasonal symptoms were asthma.
They gave me the inhalers when I was describing (only) the seasonal symptoms, put it on my records etc.
Then a few years ago I had a GP tell me this wasn't asthma but seasonal allergies and that there's quite an overlap between the two.

There is so much confusion around asthma. My niece is having the same discoveries as you at the moment.

@Datafan55 thanks that's helpful but yes confusing. What tests did they carry out if you don't mind me asking or did they prescribe it based on your symptoms?

They didn't really test me. I had a couple of attacks when I was little so they took it as given - when I went with seasonal things years later - that it had been diagnosed. Rather sloppy!

I think you normally should/might be given a peak flow meter (a simple bit of plastic) and you breathe into it and record your measurements for a week or two. However poor readings aren't an indication of asthma either! - can be poor technique too. In theory it's a 'this is your baseline and when you have these symptoms, see if your peak flow reading is lower' = asthma.

@Summerdays1775 Thanks, I have a telephone appointment with doctor tomorrow to talk it through and see what they say. I'm worried because I travel with work a lot and I leave tomorrow so won't be around for tests but would feel much better even if they could prescribe an inhaler in the meantime

You can develop asthma at any age. Symptoms can also vary over the years. It can get better also my sister hasn't needed an inhaler in several years, but had bad asthma in her 20's and 30's.

My sons asthma is triggered by allergies and viral colds but not exercise. There does seem to be different types of asthma. So it's totally possible that it is just allergy related and you'll only need treatment during the pollen season. Just go to the doctors and get it looked into.

So I saw GP who doesn't think it's asthma but will send me for tests. In meantime he prescribed asthma inhaler to use if I feel wheezy. Also spoke to an asthma nurse who said hayfever with wheeze can occur without asthma, but will wait for my tests to know for sure.

Asthma is mainly caused by allergies more than anything

I bought a HEPA air filter on advise of the nurse so I'll see if that helps at all. I can't wait for the hayfever season to be over. I was also told perimenopause (I'm 43) can make hayfever worse...

My hayfever and seasonal asthma got so much worse with Peri. The hepa filter will help I have one in the bedroom and one in the lounge and it does make a difference. Good luck!

Yes definitely has to have an inhaler with his hay fever. Make an appt asap

Sorry. Just saw you have seen the GP.

Ooh, interesting that peri makes hayfever worse. Mine has been a nightmare this year and I'm wheezing and coughing most evenings. I'm too lazy to go to the GP for an inhaler (I had one once, years ago), but I'm taking one fexofenadine twice a day and that helps, although I can tell when the next dose is due because the wheezing starts again 🤷🏻‍♀️ I also have a hepa filter in the bedroom, it does help at night.

Fexofenedine 180 prescribed by the gp

I have asthma but, unless I have a very bad cold or virus, it's easily controlled with a preventer. They don't like to prescribe relievers these days unless it's for severe allergies because regular use of preventer or upping the dose should work.

I actively avoid a few outdoor situations. September is often a bit bad for me. The worst thing is my cat allergy, I really can't sleep in a house that has cats.

So the hepa filter seems to be working as I haven't had the wheeze at night or tight cheat since using it. Maybe that with the Fexofenedine will work until July when my hayfever goes and I have in the inhaler at hand if I need it

This is what happens with my Hayfever if I don’t take care. It’s got worse as I get older. I now wear a mask if I need to go out at certain times.

thus far I’ve managed to avoid inhalers by careful management but I’ve had the throat closing thing as well.

unfortunately it’s affecting more people as the climate warms up. I hear so many more people people each year say they are suddenly suffering when they never have

I am the same too and peri. I went to the theatre this weekend and was so worried about coughing I stuffed my pocket with mints to try and prevent it.
I am mixing up fexofenadine with a cheaper antihistamine so take one of each a day.

Glad you’ve found some relief.
I also sleep with a hepa filter.
this year for the first time I’ve been taking various supplements instead of fexo and the difference has been remarkable.

I thought it might just be coincidence/placebo but I recommended them to a few others who said they’ve seen the same difference.

the only time I’ve had to take fexo was for mozzie bites.

I've noticed a mild wheeze at night for a few years now. Probably because we got a cat 🙄 What HEPA filter did you get?

I started taking a Quercetin supplement on recommendation of a friend and this seems to have helped too, now I've been on them a few weeks 👍

I am taking:
Quercetin
Turmeric
Nettle Leaf
N-Acetyl Cysteine
Lungwort (2 wks on, 2 wks off)
Vit C
and a pro biotic.

I also take ashgwanda all year round (Prozac dupe)
I don’t know which ones are doing the trick but this is the first summer in years I’ve not had rubbish sleep not to mention all the symptoms. All I get is the occasional sneeze - like twice a day, and a slightly runny nose. It’s bliss!
I wish I’d known about this 20 years ago.