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Pharmacist just refused to sell me medised for my 3yr old!

106 replies

toomanyshoes · 22/05/2008 18:17

I am so angry with her! I know the recommendations have changed and medised is no longer suitable for children under 2 but my DD is 3.

She said it was unsuitable for young children and produced a leaflet telling me how to deal with a cold (plenty of fluids, rest etc) FGS I'm not a bloody moron!!
It's not even a new formulation, the bottles on the shelf were the old 'from 3 months' stock.

I told her I knew the recommendations and had checked on the medised site. Had a row with her and stormed out in the end

OP posts:
NotABanana · 23/05/2008 10:24

Oh, I agree with you if it is safe to use, she should have sold it to you.

I was trying to suggest an alternative until you could get something. Hope your DC is soon better.

toomanyshoes · 23/05/2008 10:28

thanks NAB, shes a bit better today

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SlightlyMadSweet · 23/05/2008 14:42

Carrion...I think calcold is on the list of drugs withran for under 2s now too. Just for future reference

carrieon · 23/05/2008 18:30

Thank you, I guess I haven't tried to buy it since the rule change coz we haven't run out yet! Wouldn't have run out of medised either if it hadn't leaked!

pointydog · 23/05/2008 18:45

What is medised? Some sort of sedative?

Could you not have bought calpol?

expatinscotland · 23/05/2008 18:48

Buy it elsewhere and complain about her. She's not a doctor and you weren't breaking the law.

The British can be so finicky when it comes to drugs.

foofi · 23/05/2008 18:52

Aside from the issues of Medised specificially, I do find that all pharmacists are intrusive and difficult these days. It used to be just Boots, but now it seems to be the same everywhere. The other day I tried to buy 2 packets of travel sickness pills from Sainsburys pharmacy and was asked in a judgemental voice, 'Any particular reason why you want to buy TWO??'. I don't feel I should have to justify myself to a shop assistant when I am buying something that is available without prescription. I recently tried to buy some Nurofen Plus and was told by the assistant (at Boots) that they were very bad for me and I 'shouldn't be' taking them!! How dare they?

expatinscotland · 23/05/2008 18:56

Complain in writing, foofi. Seriously, nothing will change unless more people start to do this. If the stuff is available off a shelf - not even at a chemist counter - then the shop assistant's job is to ring up the sale, not make judgements about what customers are buying.

I got talked to by a chemist once whilst picking up a prescription for Zantac whilst pregnant that an OB consultant had prescribed for me.

I asked immediately to speak to a manager because I was concerned about pharmacists advising patients who'd already been assessed by consultants, and that I'd make sure to aprise my consultant of such situations.

pointydog · 23/05/2008 19:23

In fact, pharmacists are expected to play a part in advising on medicines and not just ringing up a sale. As more medicines become more easily available, government wants pharmacists to deal more proactively with customers, especially repeat prescriptions and over the counter stuff. They can be best placed to know exactly how different drugs affect the body.

advicepleasemums · 23/05/2008 19:27

I too am at a loss with regards the withdrawral of medised for under twos. I wrk in healthcare and always understood that in fact paracetamol was in terms of accidental OD and death one of the worst offenders.

I personally used to find medised really useful. My DS went to nursery from six months of age and had a cold almost continually for a year! Invariably the thing that kept him awake was the not being able to breath. I would only ever give him a dose before bed when he was really bunged up and it gave him such good relief. I discussed this with my own GP whose pragmatic advice was that as long as you stuck to the recommended dose it was absolutely fine.

I suspect this is because some parents have abused the medication by using it purely for its sedative effect not in the context of it being a decongestant. That makes me mad!!

wingandprayer · 23/05/2008 19:32

My pharmacist refused to sell me infant Gaviscon when my baby had reflux. The only reason I didn't get it on prescription is because it seemed like a waste of NHS resources and my doctor's time to do so, but we had seen a paeditrician about it, which we explained. She wouldn't give in, so we went to the pharmacy round the corner, owned by same people, and bought it without question .

expatinscotland · 23/05/2008 20:31

Actually, pointy, foofi said she was buying Nurofen Plus, which you don't need to go to the chemist counter to pick up in most large Boots - it's just on the shelf.

So in that case, when you take it to a till, the shop assistant is there to ring it up.

What next? Them making comments on people buying condoms and KY Jelly off a shelf?

I can't stand how intrusive they are here and usually buy all OTC meds abroad or online so as not to be bothered by getting read the riot act and like I'm some moron who can't read instructions.

pointydog · 23/05/2008 20:38

ky and oncdoms aren't ingested drugs.

I don't have strong feelings on this but I understand why there is a bit of a push to get pharmacists more involved in who is taking which drugs and why. I can well imagine medised is dished out fairly liberally as a make-em-sleep medicine.

expatinscotland · 23/05/2008 20:40

no, they're not. but they can affect contraception if not used properly.

you're supposed to follow the directions on the package.

just like you do with ingested drugs.

and if someone wants to buy medised to put their kids to sleep, do you think a lecture from a schoolmarm pharmacist is going to stop them?

hardly. they'll just yadda yadda yadda and nod their heads in order to buy the stuff.

so what's the point? especially refusing someone a sale?

pointydog · 23/05/2008 20:42

they can just stop selling medised unless they see an ill child

yurt1 · 23/05/2008 20:46

Was it Boots? They seem to have ridiculous over protective policies.

I needed canestan cream when pregnant. I am hippy homeopathic woman but I needed canestan. WOuld they give it to me? No I apparently had to fight my way to my GP's surgery with severely autistic child in tow.

I went to Lloyds, took the advice to be sensible because pregnant and got my canestan.

carmenelectra · 23/05/2008 20:48

I didnt know that the medised was no longer considered suitable for under 2's.

In fact i have just given my ds(under 1) a dose as he isnt well and has been hysterical all night. I ahve used it before when desperate, but usually only use calpol or nurofen. I really didnt know.

misdee · 23/05/2008 20:52

shops have the right to refuse a sale to anyone.

my pharmacist is excellant. she makes sure dd's get the same make of inhalers each time as although the active ingrediant is the same, the difference in delivery can affect the kids. she explained it a lot better than my go did.

the pharmacist should also talk through medication with you. is zantac usually given to pregnant women? the pharmacist should make you aware of any interaction with medications u may be taking.

which is why a good one will ask 'have you had this perscribed before'.

mind youm its fun going to a different one for any reasons as they always questions peters cocktail of medication 'ohyou should take that with this, did u kow that' makes me smile, we say its consultant perscribed from harefield.

wingandprayer · 23/05/2008 22:36

There's just been a story on north west news about a couple who were refused morning after pill by a Sainsburys chemist because he disagreed with it. He did advise where else they could get it from. Apparently that is within his rights to do so.

Doing a complete U turn though, the last time I was in the chemist I bumped into an acquaintance who was buying Medised. I remarked it was brilliant, and asked was her DS having teething problems. Oh no, she said, we're having a dinner party later and we don't want to be disturbed . perhaps it's best if idiots mums like her are questioned?

pointydog · 23/05/2008 22:38

yep, better to voice disagreement that just silently condone

PrincessPeaHead · 23/05/2008 22:38

medised isn't nice stuff. use calpol instead. she was doing you a favour

expatinscotland · 23/05/2008 22:42

GP recommended Piriton syrup when the chicken pox was keeping DD1 up.

Guess the antihistamine can have a sedative effect as well as helping with the itch.

Did the trick fairly well, though.

There's a BIG problem in the US with pharmacists refusing the dispense MAP or even birth control pills because they don't agree with them.

Problem comes when it's in a small town with only one chemist or when the recipient has problems getting to or finding another chemist.

So much so that some states are having to consider legislation saying if you don't agree with dispensing prescribed or legal medications because of your moral views, you either need to keep it to yourself or stop dispensing medicine.

PrincessPeaHead · 23/05/2008 22:43

advicepleasemums, has it ever crossed your mind that the reason your child might have "had a cold" and been bunged up for a YEAR was because you were giving it medised every night? Decongestants are NOT good things for the nasal passages. Fine for a one -off emergency but with prolonged use they can set up a sort of "dependency" in the tissues of the nose which can really aggravate problems there and in the sinuses.

so maybe you should be taking a bit of sensible advice from educated professionals, and not doling out random medicines to your kids for years on end

misdee · 23/05/2008 22:44

piriton is often given to children with ongoing eczema expatinscot. dd1 was on it for a while as the itching would keep her awake all night.

but it can have the opposite effect on some childen and send them hyper. have heard many tales of that happening to mums of kids with eczema.

handlemecarefully · 23/05/2008 22:47

Well yesterday I was refused vicks sinex and sudafed (for me!! and I am 40!!!). I was permitted to choose one or the other.

Apparently you are no longer allowed to have 2 over the counter decongestants at the same time