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OJ 's HUGS, RUM & CHOCCIE SUPPORT THREAD

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bossybritches · 29/04/2008 22:34

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WingsofanAngel · 06/05/2008 10:53

Ha I bet that took her off guard.
'Ding dong'
Oh that Jo doesn't want me in. (Your right there)

Wishing you strength for the next half hour.

Glad they have eventually sorted the meds.

Take care x

fortyplus · 06/05/2008 11:38

Hi oj - I've been away for a few days.

Reading through... I think you're right to wonder about whether the kids should be with Steve when he does eventually die. Both fathers I have know who died (the last one just a couple of months ago) had the kids there. The youngest boy (10) was very confused on the last day and was pulling his dad's hair and poking him and telling him to wake up. But when the dad actually died the boy was calm and dealt with it well apparently.

The last time I saw them was at the funeral in March and they were fine. But I don't think reality kicks in straight away.

oxcat1 · 06/05/2008 12:12

Dear OJ,

I very much hope I'm not being insensitive, but I thought perhaps I might share my experiences.

I was 15 when my mum died, and my brother just 11. Of course, neither of us have autism so our experiences may be very different, but perhaps there's something of interest.

Our mum died of skin cancer, but it was the metastases in the brain that killed her finally. Reading through that timeline, much of it ties exactly with my experience, although it was all so very much quicker for us.

The night she finally died, she had been pretty unresponsive for about 24 hours. The doctor came and I think probably told my dad it was only a matter of hours, although I'm only guessing that. Anyway, that night we moved our mattresses into their room and all four of us slept in the room together. My mum's breathing definitely sounded different and I suppose it could have been scary (it so sounded as though she needed to cough, but she couldn't), but instead we talked about holiday and plans and pleasant and exciting things like that.

Eventually my brother and I fell asleep (don't know if my dad ever did), and my dad then woke us up at about 2.30am to say that she had just died. I don't know how long that was after she actually died, but not long at all, I don't think. It was very clear she had gone, difficult to pin down why, but definitely things were different -all the noise had stopped, but at that stage she did still look very much like herself. That changed quite rapidly, within hours, and I definitely found 'her' more frightening after a couple of hours once the muscles had started to change etc etc.

Anyway, my dad then called various friends and relatives who came round. Some went to sit with her for a bit, others just drank tea and stayed with us. I remember quite enjoying all these people coming round, although perhaps that is a terrible thing to say.

Eventually we went back to sleep (in another bedroom) for a couple fo hours, and the undertaker arrived to take my mum away at about 8am. My dad stayed with us in the kitchen whilst all of that was going on, with the door shut so that we couldn't see or hear anything that was going on as they took her away. It didn't feel artificial at all, but it did save us (and my dad) a sight that I suspect would have been quite difficult to witness, for him as well as us.

There were other slight modifications to 'standard' practice as regards the funeral etc to take account of our ages and make it easier for us, but I don't think you're ready to hear all that now.

Looking back, I'm glad that my dad spent those moments alone with my mum, before he woke us up, and I'm also actually quite glad that I didn't witness her actual moment of passing, although I still feel I was there. I think the sense of wnating to bring her back might have been too strong to deal with at that age.

Anyway, I do hope I haven't offended. Simply my experiences and I think nobody can ever tell you what is or is not hte right thing to do. Everything you do will be the right thing, so try not to worry, but just 'be' over the next few weeks.

With love, and hugs for what you're going though,xx

VaginaShmergina · 06/05/2008 12:23

oxcat1 What a lovely post and how generous to share those special memories here.

It sounds like your Dad did the right thing by you as there does I dont hear any fear or bad "stuff" in your post.

Big hugs x

imaginaryfriend · 06/05/2008 12:28

OJ {{{hug}}}

NotABanana · 06/05/2008 13:28

Hopefully the visit with the dragon your MIL has passed without incident and Steve was fine when she was there.

Reading through this thread I wondered if you had thought about printing it off so you can always rememeber MN is here for you and always will be. Some of the posts might be of a comfort to you at times, maybe.

Take care.

Spidermama · 06/05/2008 14:12

Oxcat that's a really nice post.

OJ I'm so sorry about your MIL. I guess she's got her own difficult journey but it's really sad she's unable to unite in these intense times for you all.

Anyway, I know you're probably sick of hearing it but you really are an inspiring woman.

Wishing you well. x

VaginaShmergina · 06/05/2008 14:40

So you didn't take my advice and wrip the bell off the wall and roll it in summink !!!!

Sounds like it was a "better" visit and hopefully you did not have to tolerate any abuse, just out of curiousity does she normally "kick off" when she has one of the others with her ?

Such a shame she cannot support you with this, but she has made her bed eh!!!

Its a beautiful day here, I hope the sun is shining with you too and Steve has had some awake time to see the sunshine. x

triflenorks · 06/05/2008 16:09

vag, i get the impression too, that they all kick off if the have an audience.

onlyjoking9329 · 06/05/2008 16:31

Oxcat thankyou for your experience it sounded very "right" and peaceful.
Mil came and didn't speak to me until on her way out the door when she said that she was bringing her DH (steves step dad) on thursday morning as Steve had asked to see him, i said ok but i was fumimng as she is supposed to vist alone.
i asked the carer what steve had said about step dad and was not surprized to find that steve in fact said Feck all about wanting to see his step dad.
i phoned the SW and as it happens she is free on thursday morning so she is going to be here when they vist

SoupKitchen · 06/05/2008 16:34

Glad you will have some external witnessess their OJ. Last thing you need is them kicking off again

LilRedWG · 06/05/2008 17:17

Glad that SW will be there for you. xx

moodlumthehoodlum · 06/05/2008 17:29

Hi OJ, sorry that you are still having to deal with dragon like receptionists even now.

Oxcat - your post was very moving and I think it was very kind of you to post it, as it can't be easy.

VaginaShmergina · 06/05/2008 18:10

Glad the SW can be there for you on Thursday.

I used to go out with a Chelsea supporter who was a thug and had a baseball bat with nails pushed thru it, wanna see if you can borrow it ?

onlyjoking9329 · 06/05/2008 19:02

i will be saving and printing this thread as there is lots of good advice on here, thankyou.
Steve was seen by the DN today and the doctor, he has given him some mouthwash and some anti-biotics, he says his chest is clear but given ABs just to try to keep infection away.
i told steves mother that the DN was coming out and maybe the doctor she didn't say a word to me.
i have just had a message on our answerphone from steves brother saying that his mum had phoned him as she was worried about steve and she has asked that mike phone me to see what happened with the DN, why can't she phone me FFS

VaginaShmergina · 06/05/2008 19:10

She can't phone because she is a shite mother and I'm sure by now will realise that you and Steve are sould mates.

She is scared of you as you are a more superior being and you have her sons heart, like she never would or could.

She likes to dish it but I'm sure if you told her exactly what you thought of her she would fold.

Blasting over, off to the PTA, yawn yawn

soapbox · 06/05/2008 20:37

I mean no disrespect to the family involved at all - but when I saw this headline -

"Carer died after "Wild West" shootout near home"

I immediately thought - OH,OH! OJ's MIL's visit went tits up

I am going to be struck down for laughing at something so inappropriate!

BreeVanderCampLGJ · 06/05/2008 20:38
Miaou · 06/05/2008 20:42

It astounds me that people can be so small-minded in situations like this. She was obviously dying to know but couldn't bring herself to talk to you about it. Stupid bint

BreeVanderCampLGJ · 06/05/2008 20:44

Here Is The News

A woman was found in the East Midlands area today.

She appeared to have been attacked,however Police were at a loss as to motive.(we could give them motive)

She was covered from head to toe in jelly,cream and sprinkles.

Police say that the public have nothing to fear, but suspect that in certain situations the attacker is not to be trifled with.

triflenorks · 06/05/2008 20:54

soapbox, I snorted with laughter. OJ words fail me.

Miaou · 06/05/2008 21:18

pmsl

onlyjoking9329 · 06/05/2008 21:26

you lot have cheered me up no end, i can't wait to see MIL and her husbands face when they walk in and see the SW here on thursday after MIL agreed to vist on her own only.

bossybritches · 06/05/2008 21:31

god quick set up a web -cam OJ!!!

or should I say "witch-cam"

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onlyjoking9329 · 06/05/2008 22:02

Steve seems to be settled now but he was very angry at me for trying to get him to take his meds, i was sworn at hit and scratched i am trying not to take it personally as steve would never willing hurt anyone but i can't help but feel sad.

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