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Heart issues since the Phizer Jab

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namechange301 · 30/01/2024 10:08

Hi guys,

I am at my wits end and wondered if anyone had similar experiences.

I just want to start by saying I am not ant vaccine. I appreciate it has saved a lot of people. I don’t even know if my symptoms were caused by this (I suspect yes though).

At the time of the rollouts, I had the AstraZeneca 1 and 2 jabs and had no symptoms at all. By the time of the 3rd booster jab, the Government were now saying (despite previously saying not to) that people could mix vaccines and the only vaccine offered was the Pfizer jab.

The night I received the Pfizer I experienced a feeling in my heart I have never felt before, like a deep whooshing sensation jolting me awake. It would only happen when I was seconds from falling asleep. Very scary feeling and I was unable to sleep as it kept happening. This went on for weeks and often would be awake until 4-5am. Then sometimes the feeling would go but always return after a few weeks.

I went to the doctor, and they referred me to cardiology. I have been with cardiology for 2 years now and had different tests all apparently fine. The Cardiology waiting lists are long so it is 3-4 months between appointments.

I have had 48 hour monitor fitted, ECG, echo scan, stress test, blood tests, CT stress scan. No Sign of scarring of the heart, infections etc. Only issue they diagnosed was ectopic beats and have recently been prescribed a low dose of bisoprolol.

In the 2 years the issue first happened I feel like the symptoms have evolved. The whooshing feeling in my chest is now a rush of warmth that can even be felt in my throat and face, always fleeting. My feet are burning. I wake up with a jolt and body is shaking involuntarily. I get pins and needles a lot and frequently wake up and my left hand feels so numb it almost feels disjointed. I get chest pain on my worst nights. I cant sleep when it happens. I have shoulder pain but when I told my GP about that they didn’t do any tests and just sent me for physio that hasn’t helped. I do find that if something scares me, that makes me worried or causes me to jump, I know I will have a particularly bad night and the symptoms will be worse for weeks. I have lived with this for over two years with everyone telling me I am fine and nothing wrong with me. I just wish they could feel what I feel in my heart.

Last week I had an online appointment and they basically told me they don’t think any of the issues are caused by my heart so to speak to my doctor so in over two years we have gone full circle. Doctors were the ones who referred me to cardiology in the first place. I understand from their point of view they can only go by the tests which all seem fine. And I have logged a call with my GP so waiting for them to call. But its been so horrible living like this and hey make me feel like I’m lying and I’m not feeling what I am feeling.

Has anyone had anything like this?

Not saying this was caused by the phizer jab and no evidence has been found to suggest this, I know Covid causes heart issues too, but it is a fact the issue began the first night of receiving the jab.

I just don’t know what to do, I cant afford to go private but it is affecting the quality of my life.

Sorry its so long!

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TheYearOfSmallThings · 31/01/2024 16:13

It sounds as if anxiety is making you hyper-vigilant to sensations that fall within normal range, which means they will not find a physiological cause for what you are experiencing. You can learn to manage this but it would need a shift in thinking, which is hard to achieve.

namechange301 · 31/01/2024 16:16

Zaranj · 31/01/2024 15:55

Check the symptoms of pericarditis, myocarditis and any other cardiac side effects documented in journal articles. There seems to be a lot of resistance to fully diagnose cardiac c-19 vaccine side effects. Yours is hopefully just a coincidence, as the cardiac issues are a nightmare. Though the general hesitancy to fully diagnose and investigate serious side effects does not instill confidence. I had acute myocarditis and the symptoms were strong (bad heartburn type pain, then into the neck and arms) and the diagnosis clear as I was in hospital. The mild cases were common. See the Basel study.

it is worth getting copies of all your tests and seeing if there are any readings that are not good, by passable (e.g. showing signs of cardiac injury, but not a heart attack).

Edited

Yes Ive researched a lot of that and tests didnt find any signs of infectionor scarring on the heart, albeit i had my tests a long time after this began.

Its just such an odd sensation, warmth feeling that i feel travelling into my face/throat sometimes fleetingly. Hot feet. Shoulder pain.

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namechange301 · 31/01/2024 16:16

Trufflenose · 31/01/2024 16:09

It may not have been caused by anxiety originally - the vaccine could have affected your ANS - but the brain keeps the symptoms going due to ongoing worry about the symptoms.

I'll certainly mention it, thank you.

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namechange301 · 31/01/2024 16:19

HowNice23 · 31/01/2024 15:59

Yes exactly that! Juuuust as I was about to fall asleep - BOOM! my legs would jerk so much I kicked my partner on more than one occasion. He saw me twitching in my sleep and said I was dripping with sweat, I remember waking up with the sheets absolutely soaking. I also got spasms in my torso. Thankfully they've mostly subsided but the timing was so specific to the jab. Interesting that it seems to be triggered by that deep relaxation - I wonder why that would be?

Its so weird! The shakiness is a relatively new thing too. The deep relaxation is odd too, like my body is at its most relaxed. Once asleep i am fine but on my worst nights i have been up until the early morning trying to sleep.

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Trufflenose · 31/01/2024 16:23

You can try mentioning it to a doctor but I very much doubt they will agree. There are few doctors who are educated about the mind/body connection despite all of the evidence for it.

There are some good books on it but I can't remember the authors! Dr John Sarno did the original work in relation to back pain. Seriously have a look at Dan Buglio's website.

Trufflenose · 31/01/2024 16:26

My personal theory about the sleep - because I get this - the physical symptoms suddenly come on when I'm really relaxed or deeply asleep and my heart can go up to 140 - is that my body no longer feels safe when its relaxed. So it shoots out adrenaline and wakes me up because it wants me to deal with the "danger" but its just my brain misfiring and perceiving danger when there isn't any.

Moier · 31/01/2024 16:41

@nnamechange301

My daughter has Heart stop and PoTS from the vaccines..
It's quiet common.. she's 31 now..
These conditions are cardiology..
She's under a private consultant in York.. one of the best where PoTs and Heart stop are concerning..
She had most of the feelings you have..
Trouble is most GPs and cardiologist aren't very good with PoTs and Heart stop.. they concentrate more on major Heart disease etc

InAMess2023 · 31/01/2024 16:44

Divinespark · 31/01/2024 11:50

There is a leading cardiologist, you can find him on Facebook and twitter.l Dr. Aseem Malhotra. He was nominated before covid even began for his great work in cardiology. He is certain from patients and the data he is seeing that it isn't just covid, but the MRNA being the main cause in heart issues. Now obviously it isn't always going to be the vaccine but the data is showing since the vaccines come out there has been excess jn problem,. And in many cases they didn't even have covid. Don't listen to those on mumsnet who dismiss this. If you noticed it after the vaccine than you know your body. He gets lots of messages and might be able to advise? He has just started a new Job with the NHS in Chelsea.

Not read the full thread so apologies if someone else has already pointed this out but Aseem Malhotra is under investigation by the GMC for spreading misinformation around the Covid vaccines. It was a group of his fellow doctors who raised the question around his fitness to practice. He's not currently employed by the NHS anywhere.

Also I did preliminary work for the Covid inquiry collating hospital data and there really isn't the increase in heart-related issues that is being implied. The BHF have warned about risk of heart disease for years as it's one thing that can be prevented with a healthy lifestyle, something few and far between these days.

PaulCostinRIP · 31/01/2024 17:21

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Daffodilapidated · 31/01/2024 17:42

I feel I’m becoming a bit of a bore as all I seem to post about is heart issues - but I had 3 (possibly 4 I can’t recall) Covid vaccines and out of the blue last January I had a heart attack. I was 47, BMI of around 19, never smoked, very careful with what I ate in terms of fat, salt etc, careful with caffiene and was fit - running several times a week, doing weights and walking dogs three times a day. No family history of cardiac issues. There was no reason for my heart attack and when I asked the GP about the possible link between the Covid vaccine and heart attacks she said possibly a link may be found after 20 years or so worth of data, but couldn’t say. I am unsure enough about any links to know that I will never have another vaccine. I know on the British Heart Foundation discussion board that any mention of heart problems linked to Covid are swiftly removed, which is a shame because not all of us are conspiracy theorists, some just want to search for possible answers!

Trufflenose · 31/01/2024 18:57

If there is a link it will be very hard to tell whether it is due to covid infections, which we already know raise the risk of heart issues, or the vaccines. It could even be both.

HowNice23 · 31/01/2024 19:20

When you're perfectly healthy, have the jab and within 12 hours have very alarming and similar symptoms to others I think it's reasonable to make a connection. I don't think you have to take a side or be anti vax it's just observing what happened. I would have boosters, I'm still fine balancing the side effects with the clear benefits but they really are side effects. To say it would have happened anyway, was perimenopause or anxiety underplays some people's experience. When some people have the flu jab they can have a the shivers or a feeling of weakness. Babies after vaccines can be a bit off. It's just a thing we know happens and it's not a criticism of anything but we do need to be listened to when symptoms are upsetting. Long term side effects need taking seriously with treatments (not avoiding vaccines)

Trufflenose · 31/01/2024 22:12

Yes but unfortunately anecdotal evidence doesn't count for much in terms of proving a link. The medical profession won't accept a link without empirical research, and I'm not sure that's going to happen now. Especially with lawsuits happening against the vaccine manufacturers.

Wbeezer · 31/01/2024 22:23

I had those symptoms during perimenopause, ectopic beats, waking up with a racing heart and heat rising from chest to face.
Went away with HRT.

HowNice23 · 31/01/2024 22:59

My experience as reported to my doctor is empirical evidence and not anecdotal.

Trufflenose · 31/01/2024 23:12

Yes but is anyone actually collecting all this info from doctors and putting it all together? I doubt it.

HowNice23 · 31/01/2024 23:19

I don't disagree, I take your point. It seems unlikely that it will be analysed on a higher scale but we are going to the doctors and being tested and registering symptoms - this is empirical not just anecdoctal chat on a web forum. I think several of us have been through some or a lot of medical tests.

PaulCostinRIP · 01/02/2024 01:02

What a coincidence?! 🙄

A lot of people are regretting having the jabs but those of us who didn't have no regrets about not having them.

Died suddenly www.mumsnet.com/Talk/general_health/4998033-died-suddenly

Myridiculousstomach · 01/02/2024 07:11

Hi OP, I have also had ongoing heart issues since my covid vaccinations (I’m not anti vax either). Nothing shows on an ECG or a 48 hour monitor other than a faster than it should be heart rate and the odd ectopic beat.

Something you could try is d-ribose. You mix it with water and drink it. It helps your cells to work more efficiently. A lot of googling after getting nowhere and feeling like I was going mad led to finding some research about mitochondrial dysfunction and how it can cause a sort of ‘failure’ in the heart. The d-ribose helps the cells to work properly and relieves the symptoms. It definitely has an effect in my case although I can only take it once per day or it upsets my stomach. I wish I could take it more as I believe it would help a lot. It might be worth a try. Please note that this will in no way help classic heart failure or other heart problems! And it may do nothing for you - it’s just something to try that has helped me a little.

And yes, it could be health anxiety as others have said, but it’s easy to assume it’s that without trying other things to see if the help.

InAMess2023 · 01/02/2024 07:24

PaulCostinRIP · 01/02/2024 01:02

What a coincidence?! 🙄

A lot of people are regretting having the jabs but those of us who didn't have no regrets about not having them.

Died suddenly www.mumsnet.com/Talk/general_health/4998033-died-suddenly

Reported AGAIN for misinformation, notice your linked thread was removed already!

Zaranj · 01/02/2024 12:57

Moier · 31/01/2024 16:41

@nnamechange301

My daughter has Heart stop and PoTS from the vaccines..
It's quiet common.. she's 31 now..
These conditions are cardiology..
She's under a private consultant in York.. one of the best where PoTs and Heart stop are concerning..
She had most of the feelings you have..
Trouble is most GPs and cardiologist aren't very good with PoTs and Heart stop.. they concentrate more on major Heart disease etc

I hope things improve for your daughter.

I very much agree with what you write. So much of the cardiology focus is older men, that younger women struggle to be treated.

In A and E the focus is whether the patient is having a heart attack or similar and needs urgent admission.

Grenola · 01/02/2024 14:20

Have you tried any treatment for reflux?
sometimes this makes me feel palpitations or feeling around my heart area. It also causes spasms in the oesophogus.
lying on your left too can help reduce the sensations of feeling your heart beating

blackheartsgirl · 01/02/2024 20:08

Yes I’ve had the same.

mines a little more serious though as I have ectopic heartbeats/arrythmia that’s caused by a disruption to the electrical impulses to my heart, it’s been picked up on scans, ecgs etc and stress makes it worse,

They don’t know if it’s been caused by the jabs or the extreme stress I’ve been under the last couple of years but I’ve apparantly had it all my life and a combo of the jabs and stress has made it manifest. I’m on meds now to control it

Chipstick10 · 01/02/2024 21:09

Please know that you are not alone. So many customers have told me similar stories . Experienced things that have never happened before.
it is farcical to say that the vaccines have caused no injuries. I hope you get a conclusion. Someone very very close to me is a lawyer dealing with cases from those injured from the vaccine