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Heart issues since the Phizer Jab

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namechange301 · 30/01/2024 10:08

Hi guys,

I am at my wits end and wondered if anyone had similar experiences.

I just want to start by saying I am not ant vaccine. I appreciate it has saved a lot of people. I don’t even know if my symptoms were caused by this (I suspect yes though).

At the time of the rollouts, I had the AstraZeneca 1 and 2 jabs and had no symptoms at all. By the time of the 3rd booster jab, the Government were now saying (despite previously saying not to) that people could mix vaccines and the only vaccine offered was the Pfizer jab.

The night I received the Pfizer I experienced a feeling in my heart I have never felt before, like a deep whooshing sensation jolting me awake. It would only happen when I was seconds from falling asleep. Very scary feeling and I was unable to sleep as it kept happening. This went on for weeks and often would be awake until 4-5am. Then sometimes the feeling would go but always return after a few weeks.

I went to the doctor, and they referred me to cardiology. I have been with cardiology for 2 years now and had different tests all apparently fine. The Cardiology waiting lists are long so it is 3-4 months between appointments.

I have had 48 hour monitor fitted, ECG, echo scan, stress test, blood tests, CT stress scan. No Sign of scarring of the heart, infections etc. Only issue they diagnosed was ectopic beats and have recently been prescribed a low dose of bisoprolol.

In the 2 years the issue first happened I feel like the symptoms have evolved. The whooshing feeling in my chest is now a rush of warmth that can even be felt in my throat and face, always fleeting. My feet are burning. I wake up with a jolt and body is shaking involuntarily. I get pins and needles a lot and frequently wake up and my left hand feels so numb it almost feels disjointed. I get chest pain on my worst nights. I cant sleep when it happens. I have shoulder pain but when I told my GP about that they didn’t do any tests and just sent me for physio that hasn’t helped. I do find that if something scares me, that makes me worried or causes me to jump, I know I will have a particularly bad night and the symptoms will be worse for weeks. I have lived with this for over two years with everyone telling me I am fine and nothing wrong with me. I just wish they could feel what I feel in my heart.

Last week I had an online appointment and they basically told me they don’t think any of the issues are caused by my heart so to speak to my doctor so in over two years we have gone full circle. Doctors were the ones who referred me to cardiology in the first place. I understand from their point of view they can only go by the tests which all seem fine. And I have logged a call with my GP so waiting for them to call. But its been so horrible living like this and hey make me feel like I’m lying and I’m not feeling what I am feeling.

Has anyone had anything like this?

Not saying this was caused by the phizer jab and no evidence has been found to suggest this, I know Covid causes heart issues too, but it is a fact the issue began the first night of receiving the jab.

I just don’t know what to do, I cant afford to go private but it is affecting the quality of my life.

Sorry its so long!

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Mindyourfunkybusiness · 31/01/2024 10:01

I have ectopic beat (don't have meds for it though) but mine started pre pandemic. What you describe is the feeling I have had (I also have reflux).
On the NHS I had holter and ecg. Privately I had a full health check in cardiovascular department and echo etc.
He said the ectopic beat makes it seem I have a low pulse and that in turn sets off my watch and that in turn sets off my anxiety and then my blood pressure rises and I feel godawful petrified to go to sleep. Reflux doesn't help and stress can make it worse so I get chest pains 😂

I would see if there's a logical series of events that can be triggered by something small. As others have said - hormones etc who knows. The Dr's have investigated which is great and rest assured that it won't kill you but you need to manage the symptoms to live a nice life. I do wonder if it's the anxiety partly to play too.

Owlcat42 · 31/01/2024 10:02

Try taking a magnesium supplement, just a basic one from Boots or wherever. It sorted out my age-related heart palpitations in 24 hours.

It might help, it might not, but it’s cheap and certainly won’t do you any harm, so worth a try.

KnickerlessParsons · 31/01/2024 10:07

It might help, it might not, but it’s cheap and certainly won’t do you any harm, so worth a try.

How could you possibly know whether a magnesium supplement will do the OP any harm or not?
Do you have her full medical history to hand?

Advice like this is so dangerous.

namechange301 · 31/01/2024 10:28

sashh · 31/01/2024 08:42

As it is happening at night I think you need a sleep study.

The problem is which one?

Did you have any symptoms when on the 48 hour recording?

Has the cardiologist suggested an event monitor? This is a device you keep for a few weeks and record your ECG when / if you have symptoms.

Hey, I have had the 48 recording and I did experience some symptoms when I had it on, they just said it was ectopic beats but dont know what is causing the hot feet, pins and needles, shaking, and chest pain.
I think an event monitor sounds like a good idea, a few weeks captures more especially as I dont have symptoms every single night

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sashh · 31/01/2024 10:45

OP

Have a think about anything else that has changed too.

I once fitted a 24 hour ECG to a lady with chest pain.

We would offer the option of take your bra off while I fit the electrodes or keep your bra on and sleep in it.

This lady took her bra off and kept it off.

When she came back, she had been pain free. The chest pain had been caused by her bra.

Bohemond23 · 31/01/2024 10:51

I agree re menopause-related anxiety. I had exactly the same symptoms. Fixed with a low dose of sertraline and then HRT.

SallyWD · 31/01/2024 11:02

I know loads of people who get heart issues such as palpitations, ectopic beats, because of perimenopause. Your other symptoms could also be hormonal and/or anxiety. Anxiety itself is a common symptom of perimenopause. I'm. 49 and have had a lot of anxiety for the last few years.

namechange301 · 31/01/2024 11:17

KnittedCardi · 31/01/2024 08:50

It sounds exactly like anxiety/menopause. Symptoms match up completely. Note that the vax does have an effect on hormones, period cycles, so that could have been a trigger and timings just happened to match up with changes in your hormones levels. I'm amazed doctors haven't looked at that before going down a full cardiac route.

Yes the GP i spoke to did say about the period cycles being affected, mune do seem okay though. Its not anxiety though, I remember feeling happy when I had my 3rd booster jab and not anxious at all about anything and that night I felt my first symptoms which two years on have not gone away. GP;s thought this first as I know its common and I do have a lot of symptoms that are like anxiety. I mean, it would be great if it was anxiety so I hope it is but sadly I don't. Hopefully the next round of bloods and appointment will help find out more.
I will ask about menopause though. thank you

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namechange301 · 31/01/2024 11:21

Mindyourfunkybusiness · 31/01/2024 10:01

I have ectopic beat (don't have meds for it though) but mine started pre pandemic. What you describe is the feeling I have had (I also have reflux).
On the NHS I had holter and ecg. Privately I had a full health check in cardiovascular department and echo etc.
He said the ectopic beat makes it seem I have a low pulse and that in turn sets off my watch and that in turn sets off my anxiety and then my blood pressure rises and I feel godawful petrified to go to sleep. Reflux doesn't help and stress can make it worse so I get chest pains 😂

I would see if there's a logical series of events that can be triggered by something small. As others have said - hormones etc who knows. The Dr's have investigated which is great and rest assured that it won't kill you but you need to manage the symptoms to live a nice life. I do wonder if it's the anxiety partly to play too.

Thank you. Yes I do think the chest pain is brought on because of the synptoms I get and worrying about what it is, so the chest pain doesnt concern me that much, and that only happens in the midst of my sypmtoms.

I just wish I knew what was causing the initial symptoms.

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namechange301 · 31/01/2024 11:21

Owlcat42 · 31/01/2024 10:02

Try taking a magnesium supplement, just a basic one from Boots or wherever. It sorted out my age-related heart palpitations in 24 hours.

It might help, it might not, but it’s cheap and certainly won’t do you any harm, so worth a try.

Thank you, I will give it a try.

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namechange301 · 31/01/2024 11:22

KnickerlessParsons · 31/01/2024 10:07

It might help, it might not, but it’s cheap and certainly won’t do you any harm, so worth a try.

How could you possibly know whether a magnesium supplement will do the OP any harm or not?
Do you have her full medical history to hand?

Advice like this is so dangerous.

I had read about it before tbh but i take your point, will wait for my appointmnt and suggest it and see what GP says.

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namechange301 · 31/01/2024 11:24

sashh · 31/01/2024 10:45

OP

Have a think about anything else that has changed too.

I once fitted a 24 hour ECG to a lady with chest pain.

We would offer the option of take your bra off while I fit the electrodes or keep your bra on and sleep in it.

This lady took her bra off and kept it off.

When she came back, she had been pain free. The chest pain had been caused by her bra.

Ah thank you, I did try it though and no good :(

Ive tried almost everything. Its so hard to live like this and really affects the quality of my sleep when its bad. Its just such a weird sensation in my heart of warmth and whooshing and jolts me awake. Then my body is triggered by the sudden awake and i shake involuntarily in my chest and body for about 20 seconds. Its horrible.

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Divinespark · 31/01/2024 11:50

There is a leading cardiologist, you can find him on Facebook and twitter.l Dr. Aseem Malhotra. He was nominated before covid even began for his great work in cardiology. He is certain from patients and the data he is seeing that it isn't just covid, but the MRNA being the main cause in heart issues. Now obviously it isn't always going to be the vaccine but the data is showing since the vaccines come out there has been excess jn problem,. And in many cases they didn't even have covid. Don't listen to those on mumsnet who dismiss this. If you noticed it after the vaccine than you know your body. He gets lots of messages and might be able to advise? He has just started a new Job with the NHS in Chelsea.

margegunderson · 31/01/2024 12:04

Blood tests aren't helpful for perimenopause as your hormones fluctuate daily. Diagnosis is generally symptom led and you've plenty of them. Look at menopause matters or the FB menopause support group or Louise Newson's balance app. I had awful palpitations last year - sorted by HRT. You've nothing to lose by trying it.

justasking111 · 31/01/2024 12:13

sashh · 31/01/2024 10:45

OP

Have a think about anything else that has changed too.

I once fitted a 24 hour ECG to a lady with chest pain.

We would offer the option of take your bra off while I fit the electrodes or keep your bra on and sleep in it.

This lady took her bra off and kept it off.

When she came back, she had been pain free. The chest pain had been caused by her bra.

Weirdly I had a breast cancer scare. Lovely female consultant said save the underwire for high days and holidays. So I did. Buying the wide strap boulder holders. She also said wear a bra day and night remove for bathing only. I am a big boobie post breast feeding three.

On the odd occasion my heart flutters I yank it off. It tends to happen at night when I'm in bed so I ninja wriggle to remove.

Motnight · 31/01/2024 12:36

margegunderson · 31/01/2024 00:46

Honestly sounds like meno to me - and most GPs wouldn't suggest it to you. Health anxiety is one of many symptoms you might experience. It might be worth looking into?

And me, Op. I used to wake up at 3 am in the morning with my heart thumping.

I hope that you get to the bottom of it, it sounds awful.

Gangshow · 31/01/2024 12:44

I feel similar OP, but for me it was after/during lockdown. Ive been diagnosed with high BP and had 48 heart monitoring which found nothing. I've put it down to one/a combination of these things:

  • the vaccine (I had 3 Pfizer)
  • having covid 3-4 times
  • my fitness decreasing (we were clinically extremely vulnerable so afraid to go out for the first 6 months) and never really recovering
  • perimenopause (although HRT hasn't really helped)

Similar to you im not sure what to do.

Chocolatecoveredshitpig · 31/01/2024 13:28

Hi OP, my story is absolutely identical to yours. I too had 2 AZ vax with no problems at all. Then had a Pfizer booster 2 years ago now. The palpitations started within a couple of days. I have had numerous ECGs, a Holter monitor, (twice) and am waiting for an echo. I've tried HRT, (I'm 49), which made my symptoms worse! The situation now is that they come and go; sometimes I'm free of them for a few weeks and think they're gone, then they come back with a vengeance. GP pretty stumped, has admitted it could be the vaccine and has given me Propranolol. I take magnesium, Vit B complex, Vit D and iron supplements every day, which have made no discernible difference. Sorry I can't be of more help, but there are others in the same boat!

KnickerlessParsons · 31/01/2024 14:32

Correlation is not the same as causation

FlibbedyFlobbedyFloo · 31/01/2024 14:46

namechange301 · 31/01/2024 00:28

It could be, I'm at the right age (45). But I've had this for over two years and no GP has mentioned the possibility so who knows

Well, most GPs are shit about the menopause. I had exactly this kind of heart stuff during perimenopause

PossiblyPertunia · 31/01/2024 14:48

I have had every single one of your symptoms and they were all caused by stress and anxiety. It's such a vicious cycle as the symptoms make you worry about your health, which in turn makes you more anxious and so on it continues.

I recommend asking for CBT but I promise you, you are not dying! I had to tell myself that over and over and over until it sunk in and the feelings went away.

namechange301 · 31/01/2024 14:53

Divinespark · 31/01/2024 11:50

There is a leading cardiologist, you can find him on Facebook and twitter.l Dr. Aseem Malhotra. He was nominated before covid even began for his great work in cardiology. He is certain from patients and the data he is seeing that it isn't just covid, but the MRNA being the main cause in heart issues. Now obviously it isn't always going to be the vaccine but the data is showing since the vaccines come out there has been excess jn problem,. And in many cases they didn't even have covid. Don't listen to those on mumsnet who dismiss this. If you noticed it after the vaccine than you know your body. He gets lots of messages and might be able to advise? He has just started a new Job with the NHS in Chelsea.

Thank you for that, I did actual read up on him. I just cannot aford private :(

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namechange301 · 31/01/2024 14:54

margegunderson · 31/01/2024 12:04

Blood tests aren't helpful for perimenopause as your hormones fluctuate daily. Diagnosis is generally symptom led and you've plenty of them. Look at menopause matters or the FB menopause support group or Louise Newson's balance app. I had awful palpitations last year - sorted by HRT. You've nothing to lose by trying it.

Thank you. Exactly, and I have a huge array of symptoms and not on GP has mentioned this as a possibility and I have seen so many over the last few years! I hope it is a simple as that. I will look into it further though, you are right , nothing to lose

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namechange301 · 31/01/2024 14:55

justasking111 · 31/01/2024 12:18

"The Vagus Nerve and Digestion: How Are They Connected?" https://neuvanalife.com/blogs/blog/the-vagus-nerve-and-digestion-how-are-they-connected

I suspect this issue doesn't help.

That is really interesting, thanks for sharing it

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