Hand hold while I wait for ambulance for daughter

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Currently waiting for an ambulance for my daughter. Been sent as category 3. She's not been right for a few days now, not eating, not drinking, just laying slumped on her bed. This morning she collapsed in the bathroom and went really pale.

She has a learning disability and complex mental health problems so she can't tell me what is wrong as she doesn't verbally communicate when she feels unwell.

She was in hospital a couple of weeks back due to an infection (see previous threads) so I hope it's nothing to do with that.

I'm so worried, I feel sick.

Really? The OP started a thread asking for a hand hold.

Start your own thread about the state of the NHS if you want but leave the OP alone now. It's a very unedifying look.

OP, I hope you get your daughter settled on a ward soon, and that you manage to get some rest. You must be exhausted.

Patient transport services are not a 24/7 service and they generally do planned transport only.

The OPs daughter required an ambulance. They may ‘only have driven her to the hospital’ but that is not what they should have done. What they SHOULD have done is listened to the OPs concerns about her daughter, assisted the transfer of the daughter to the ambulance and carried out a thorough patient history, assessment and examination and treated accordingly.

There should be no debate about the need for an ambulance in this situation. It was very clearly warranted.

People move all the time, day and night, so hopefully your wait will be over soon. Everything crossed for you.

The move could happen at any time. The first you may of it is when a porter arrives, Try to rest if you can. I appreciate the hard chairs don't make that easy.
Goof luck to you both.

For you OP 💐

Ambulance - a good call, the only call

Paramedics - need some training, so feedback will be valuable. They should know that disabilities come in all forms and along with that support should be offered as appropriate. They should not be making personal judgement of a patient's right to the service, EVER.

Hospital - Glad your DD had been seen. Here's to a quick ward transfer. Hope you get some rest before the night is out x

Thank you and also for your earlier post which I thought was fantastic.

There should be no debate about the need for an ambulance in this situation. It was very clearly warranted

why? She’s been sat in a&e for 6 hours so it was’nt an absolute emergency. Not bashing the op as that was her only option. But a functioning patient - transfer system would have been preferable surely?

The 999 service is for emergency and urgent care.

The OPs daughter had a collapse, showed signs of infection and was not her usual self. She also has complex needs that make mobilising and assessing her needs difficult.

Those things combined make a situation where an ambulance with trained professionals on is important to carefully assess and begin treatment for issues that could deteriorate.

Length of time spent in the ED does not necessarily correlate with seriousness of illness/injury either.

No @PostItInABook but considering she didn’t need medical assistance and has now been in hospital for many hours without it - wouldn’t it be better to have some kind of medical ‘taxi’ system that doesn’t involve medically trained people?

She has had medical assistance, she's had IV fluids, antibiotics, a chest X-ray.

OP please ignore the idiots. They clearly are missing a chip somewhere.

I hope your daughter feels better soon and you are able to get some rest.

You did an absolutely 100000% right thing by calling the ambulance (or not refusing 111 sending it). Ignore the BS spilled here. We are paying taxes for a functioning service not for current f...ckery.

Well, given it appears the crew didn’t perform an adequate assessment we don’t know if there was a need for initial treatment, though given the oxygen saturations and BP were low and she was given i.v. antibiotics, oxygen and fluids in the hospital, she may have benefitted from oxygen and/or fluids en route.

Also, without someone trained doing a proper assessment you don’t know there isn’t a need for treatment so it would be ridiculous to palm a patient like this off onto an untrained vehicle.

People must stop casting judgement on those using a service for situations it is there for. It is dangerous.

Hi op hope your daughter feels better soon. I'm also up with a sick child. I'll probably be all night 😪 so am around for a hand hold. It can be scary when they can't communicate with us.

Please don't be upset about calling an ambulance, it was the right call. Alot of mentally and disabled people need ambulances for transport to and from hospital and also other locations.

No decent member of ambulance staff is ever going to begrudge going to a patient like the OPs daughter and it is not for the general public to pass comment on whether it is deserved or warranted.

I'm so glad she's getting treatment and coming round a bit. It warmed my heart when you said she was smiling at you! Hope you get to a ward soon and that you can get a bit comfier. You're a good mum 💐❤

Aww, what's wrong with your child? Hope they are ok. I'll be up all night too as I can never sleep in a chair, it's not normal lol.

No lovely, because she is disabled and can possibly (this as an example) thrash out, professionally trained people are needed to assist.

It happens alot with people with severe disabilities and mental health issues and can be alarming. I've nursed people in these conditions and it's a very delicate situation. The poor woman can't communicate what is wrong either. Infections, even just a UTI, can occasionally cause you to become disoriented. So anyone who is disabled and or has mental conditions can become quite dangerous to themselves and other people. It can become a safe guarding issue so It's always better to be safe and sorry.

I nearly started crying when she smiled at me 🥺. She hasn't smiled in days. She's a little unsettled at the moment as there's a person in the ED who sounds like she has psychosis or something similar. Poor lady 😔

A cold and he's been vomiting.

He's 2 so also can't really tell us what's happening and what's wrong.

But he's also WIDE AWAKE now as well 😅

You must have been so worried. I’ve just read all of your posts op, and what a day you’ve had. I hope they can get both you and your daughter comfortable asap and I hope you’ve managed to get something to eat. Happy that your daughter is perking up too.

@Fawklight Bless him. I remember when mine were that little. It's so worrying because like you said, they can't communicate how they feel and they're so little. I hope he manages to get some sleep.

@StopTheQtipWhenTheresResistance Would your daughter use earplugs or would she find them too uncomfortable? sometimes they do have them if you ask the nurses just to dampen the noise a bit.

It's a good suggestion but she doesn't like the feel of them on.

We are still in ED. My back is killing me and I'm exhausted but at least my daughter is asleep and resting.

Blood pressure has dropped to 86/47