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Can we have a thread on ridiculous things GP's have said?

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Butmummysnotanearlybird · 25/05/2022 08:16

My contribution was "Oh well baby needs to know what sick tastes like" when they actually had CMPA and reflux. I'm sure there's worse out there 🙃

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maydaysarecloudy · 26/05/2022 12:17

Prestissimo · 25/05/2022 08:39

Honestly? I'm sorry if you've had a bad experience and clearly poor practice should be improved. But GPs are human, sometimes we say things and think it didn't come out quite the right way, sometimes things we say are misinterpreted by patients in often stressful situations. Sometimes we just get it wrong.

There is a massive recruitment and retention crisis of GPs in this country. Very soon we will be an even rarer resource than we are currently. I'm about to do an appraisal this morning on a very talented, very committed young doctor who is now planning to move abroad to practice, in part because of the pressure of the job and significantly because of the attitude of the great British public, of which threads like this are an example.

Pull us up if we get things wrong. But a spiteful, sneering thread just for the sake of it? Give us a break.

I agree with pps that this attitude from an HCP of wanting to shut down discussion about negative experiences individuals have had with their clinicians is a deeply unhealthy attitude.

I would urge any HCPs reading this thread who agree with Prestissimo to do some soul searching and really think about why you think it is a bad thing for patients to express bad experiences they have had.

Really think about why these people may not have felt able to reflect these experiences back to the clinicians concerned and why these experiences (some many years ago) have made such a big impression on them.

In any profession where your behaviour, actions and omissions have such huge impacts on service users, there should be a culture of openness and willingness to learn from mistakes or misjudgments and a genuine desire to listen to people and hear what they are saying about their experiences.

As an HCP myself I know we all receive lots of training about patient-centred care and reflective practice and having a duty to challenge where we feel something is not right. Again I would urge HCPs to ask themselves why they feel it is negative to express bad experiences. Even if the patient was expecting too much of their hcps and their treatment was as it should have been, a discussion around it helps them to understand that they were actually not mistreated. Or it may help HCPs in future to more quickly diagnose something based on learning from that person's experience.

Shutting down conversation doesn't genuinely benefit anyone.

There is myriad evidence to show that certain types of patients (eg women and people from ethnic minorities) receive significantly poorer healthcare than others and shutting down discussion is not going to go any way towards improving these discrepancies.

Mumski45 · 26/05/2022 12:26

Not to me but to my DSis. You can't have celiacs as it only gets diagnosed in children. Both I and another family member were diagnosed celiac in our 40's and 50's.

To me when I had a blood test which showed slightly raised blood sugar. "Do you want advice on how to diet, loose weight and exercise more?' I am 9st at 5'4 and cycle 140miles a week 🤔.

Fluffycloudland77 · 26/05/2022 12:27

This threads free CPD. You have to listen to patients.

MrOllivander · 26/05/2022 13:41

My dad (stoic, 73) has rung the GP today finally to admit he isn't coping after his wife of 50 years is in a care home. He's struggling with anxiety, depression, crying all the time and was brave enough to ask for help having been suicidal in the past

He spoke to someone at the care home who wrote some stuff down for him to say to the GP in case he struggled speaking

What did the GP tell him today? He needed to man up and be strong as his wife wouldn't want him acting like this

I'm absolutely fuming. What he actually needs is medication, someone to see him face to face (because he's also in a lot of physical pain) and someone to listen to how he's feeling

MushyPeasPrincess · 26/05/2022 13:49

Great post @maydaysarecloudy

MushyPeasPrincess · 26/05/2022 13:51

That's appalling @MrOllivander I hope you can dispute that with the practice and get him some proper help. That doctor should be ashamed of themselves.

MrOllivander · 26/05/2022 13:53

MushyPeasPrincess · 26/05/2022 13:51

That's appalling @MrOllivander I hope you can dispute that with the practice and get him some proper help. That doctor should be ashamed of themselves.

If I knew which surgery he was with I would have been on the phone already
This is a guy that walked with a broken pelvis and doesn't complain about pain but I think he's deficient in something - if they had looked they would have seen he's previously had blood transfusions
Now he feels worse because he asked for help and didn't get it which has made him more anxious and shaky that he shouldn't have asked...

maydaysarecloudy · 26/05/2022 14:23

Now he feels worse because he asked for help and didn't get it which has made him more anxious and shaky that he shouldn't have asked...

Your poor dad:-(.

That's a really sad example of the power that a gp has to really seriously negatively impact someone's life in one 10 minute meeting.

What is an HCP there for if not to do their absolute best for the person who is in front of them at any particular time?

I hope your dad is brave enough to ask for help again x

Ladywiddio · 26/05/2022 14:25

I see this thread is still here,NHS bashing at its best.

Hopefully the NHSwill soon collapse completely and we will all have to pay for ourselves.

Where I live there was a 9hour wait in Aand E yesterday and Ambulance Service announced it could not cope so not to phone for one for any reason!

Ladywiddio · 26/05/2022 14:25

I see this thread is still here,no wonder our NHS can’t recruit and keep Staff,serves us all right that we are in dire straits with healthcare.So many selfish self-obsespeople

DropYourSword · 26/05/2022 14:28

Ladywiddio · 26/05/2022 14:25

I see this thread is still here,no wonder our NHS can’t recruit and keep Staff,serves us all right that we are in dire straits with healthcare.So many selfish self-obsespeople

Yeah, it's totally disgraceful people would like to be treated with a little decency Hmm

TigerRag · 26/05/2022 14:31

Ladywiddio · 26/05/2022 14:25

I see this thread is still here,no wonder our NHS can’t recruit and keep Staff,serves us all right that we are in dire straits with healthcare.So many selfish self-obsespeople

Yes it's selfish that I had to complain and move surgery because no one would believe how sick I am.

I'm lucky that the amount of ventolin I was taking didn't leave me seriously ill.

RagingWoke · 26/05/2022 14:45

Ladywiddio · 26/05/2022 14:25

I see this thread is still here,no wonder our NHS can’t recruit and keep Staff,serves us all right that we are in dire straits with healthcare.So many selfish self-obsespeople

Yes definitely service users having the audacity to expect decent medical treatment and not the chronic under funding, institutionalised sexism and racism or appalling systems that sit behind it all.

You're right, it's all the ungrateful peasants failing to appreciate the god-like status of doctors.

Alphabet1spaghetti2 · 26/05/2022 15:04

Ladywiddio · 26/05/2022 14:25

I see this thread is still here,no wonder our NHS can’t recruit and keep Staff,serves us all right that we are in dire straits with healthcare.So many selfish self-obsespeople

Totally self obsessed that my DH wanted to be recognised as still living, when standing in front of the very same GP who had recorded him as being dead.
think you may have got the wrong idea about what self obsessed means.

knowinglesseveryday · 26/05/2022 16:42

Blame the government for that, not the GPs.

thing47 · 26/05/2022 16:55

We all know that the NHS is under-funded, and isn't able to afford everything it tries to do. That really is quite a separate issue from GPs who aren't quite as clever as they think they are and have no sense of empathy for their patients.

Also @Ladywiddio it is not 'NHS bashing' to point out that not all GPs are fantastic, just like in any other profession you can find ones that aren't so great. If you don't like the thread, please feel free to go and read another…

Iheartmysmart · 26/05/2022 17:10

Yeah my sister was really self obsessed when she went to A&E last night after her GP told her the pain in her leg was a sprain and to rest it. Fortunately they were able to spot a DVT and give her the necessary clot busting drugs before it killed her. How bloody selfish was she wanting to live!

BattenbergdowntheHatches · 26/05/2022 18:19

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TooManyPJs · 26/05/2022 18:51

Ladywiddio · 26/05/2022 14:25

I see this thread is still here,no wonder our NHS can’t recruit and keep Staff,serves us all right that we are in dire straits with healthcare.So many selfish self-obsespeople

ODFOD.

TooManyPJs · 26/05/2022 18:57

MrOllivander · 26/05/2022 13:41

My dad (stoic, 73) has rung the GP today finally to admit he isn't coping after his wife of 50 years is in a care home. He's struggling with anxiety, depression, crying all the time and was brave enough to ask for help having been suicidal in the past

He spoke to someone at the care home who wrote some stuff down for him to say to the GP in case he struggled speaking

What did the GP tell him today? He needed to man up and be strong as his wife wouldn't want him acting like this

I'm absolutely fuming. What he actually needs is medication, someone to see him face to face (because he's also in a lot of physical pain) and someone to listen to how he's feeling

Oh my god I am so sorry this happened to your dad. My heart goes out to him. Do you think you can support him to see another GP or has that experience put him off? What about an advocacy service to maybe step in and write to a different GP on your dad's behalf. Mind or Age U.K. may be able to help with advocacy (in some areas) or point you in the direction of some.

They can't help with medication obviously but silverline can be helpful if he just needs someone to talk to.

Your poor Dad. I hope you manage to get him the support he needs.

TooManyPJs · 26/05/2022 19:10

Silverplatedchocolatehobnob · 25/05/2022 18:27

@DoItAfraid not defensive nor passive aggressive (you might want to look up the definition of this before accusing people of it).
I was challenging the wall to wall assumption that GPs= bad. I am not a GP but am proud to work alongside them daily and have done for 17years. I have had the pleasure of working with hardworking, conscientious, professionals who put the well-being of their patients above all else. The longstanding underfunding of the NHS AND current public and media bashing of them is utterly heartbreaking.

But the reality of GP land isn't what the general public want to hear or see - the patients who come in with a splinter or a bruise, or those who come with toothache. The endless demand, the shifting of work from secondary care to primary care as they are overwhelmed and the time wasting bureaucracy which all creates a workload that is untenable. GPS are leaving in their droves, we cannot recruit no matter what we do. Medical students are not choosing GP - why the hell would you choose it when you have this image to contend with.

I used to scoff at my previous GP Partner who said that no one respects a service that they don't have to pay for at point of access. I don't anymore.

Have you actually read the comments on this thread. No-one is needlessly "GP bashing". Everyone is just recounting, sometimes horrific, instances of very poor healthcare. Free at point of use has nothing to do with it. I have seen some great doctors but ime they are sadly very much in the minority. Some of my poor healthcare has been private. I've paid for it, I still think it's substandard for very good reasons. I appreciate it's a very difficult and challenging job. But that is no excuse for the level of poor medical treatment we are seeing described on this thread and elsewhere, and lack of basic kindness and professionalism.

CheshireCats · 26/05/2022 19:15

Taking 2yr old DD to Gp.
Me: She has been crying a lot more than usual as well...
GP: It's because she a girl.
I kid you not. This actually did happen. At an out of hours Gp - bot our usual one.

MushyPeasPrincess · 26/05/2022 20:13

@Ladywiddio it's not NHS bashing. It's individual stories of poor performance by individual doctors.

And if you're so concerned about underfunding and lack of ambulances you need to take that up with the Tories who have been slashing the NHS for the last decade or more.

concernedreracistelement · 26/05/2022 20:18

My GPs have always been sensible. The odd misdiagnosis but a person is not an mri machine.

very normal to share stories of crazy things though. The attempts to shut down the thread are much weirder than anything a gp has ever said to me.

BattenbergdowntheHatches · 26/05/2022 21:07

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