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enoughforme · 04/08/2021 21:39

I have a thyroid issue, fron results I've been getting and an opinion from a private fertility specialist I should be 25mg if thyroxine.

I'm really depressed and this is the reason because my thyroid isn't working at optimum levels, also TTC and been told this medication will put thyroid levels in optimum category.

I've asked my gp to give me the meds they keep refusing,

What should I do? Barge into the surgery and make a real fuss or just find an online chemist?

DH keeps telling me I'm silly and should just buy online but I'm worried it could be dodgy. Anyone bought from ab online chemist before? An authorised one?

Please can you provide details of so.

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enoughforme · 05/08/2021 07:30

@NiceGerbil I emailed him last night to request awaiting response

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enoughforme · 05/08/2021 07:32

@NiceGerbil the go keep telling me my levels are normal range, I've read countless articles that say their 'normal range' is too far wide and you can be at the low or high end of the scale and still have your symptoms and feel crap.

In others it's a way for them to treat less people and tel you you are fine

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enoughforme · 05/08/2021 07:45

These are my tests results most recent - done by medichecks online last Friday.

Why is free thyroxine in red if there's no issue?

They also give you feedback in results and it suggests to discuss with doctor thyroxine.

The doctor will not take private results into account and have referred me to endocrinology and said the wait is months

I'm fed up which is why I'm trying my best to take into my own hands I've just had enough

To buy medication online?
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vivainsomnia · 05/08/2021 07:54

I thought Thyroxine was only available with a prescription, so I would be very weary of a pharmacy that sold it without one. Would it be illegal? Could it be that the sale went through but they will be asking you for a prescription before expediting?

OP, I'm not an clinician, but I've been where you are. It's easy to assume that we know better than clinicians and sometimes we do, not because we have a better knowledge of the science but because we have a better knowledge of our own selves and clinicians are just under too much pressure to have the time to indeed get to know us enough to take everything into account.

However, it is also very common that we let our anxiety and related frustration take over our mind and get us fixated about a blood result and conclude there is something wrong with us, and that we need a particular treatment to solve all our problems.

All you are going on is a result that is just marginally under the lower threshold when everything else is normal. Thresholds are based on averages, not on maximum/minimum values. A number of people will fall marginally of that scale and a few will be even quite bit over, and still be normal, especially when every other values are fine. I am experiencing this at the moment with another result and have done so a number of times in the past, with everything indeed being fine.

Is your insistence of starting Thyroxine related to you not being able to get pregnant? I've been there too, and it takes over your life and mind. It puts you on a mission like nothing else in life. It takes over and turns you into a detective desperately trying to find a cause and therefore a cure. Sadly, it doesn't make you very good at picking up bias and can lead you in very wrong directions.

A GP AND an expert have told you that your levels were fine. The drug is available on prescription for a reason. You could do much damage buying something online without a prescription.

FelicityBennett · 05/08/2021 07:57

What were the results from the labs that the GP and Thyroid specialist ordered?

enoughforme · 05/08/2021 07:58

@vivainsomnia thank you, I've actually conceived twice and miscarried twice. The first time was almost certainly thyroid linked.

Please see what I'm saying - two doctors have said I don't need it one doctor said I should. The doctor who said I should I am currently still under and having investigations - fertility ones because of the miscarriages to make sure no underlying issues in addition to thyroid.

I'm severely depressed, to be honest TTC is secondary to me just wanting to feel better.

Also medichecks wheee I get the results online have also backed this up - and the low free thyroxine has been consistently like this on all the tests for approx six months now it's not just a one off

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Marcee · 05/08/2021 08:00

The doctor who said you should be taking the thyroxine should be prescribing it. I'm still not sure why they aren't. Even private specialists can prescribe - so if they have said you should be taking it, I'm not sure why they aren't prescribing it.

I wouldn't be buying my own thyroxine over the counter unless you've got someone to monitor you and give you advice about the dose.

enoughforme · 05/08/2021 08:02

@Marcee thank you I've emailed to fertility doctor who recommended it only last night I will wait to hear his response

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enoughforme · 05/08/2021 08:04

@FelicityBennett the thyroid specialist didn't even bother test - literalist charged me £200 for a twenty minute phone call.

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LouLou198 · 05/08/2021 08:05

I would be very worried about buying thyroxine online. Surely you can't get this without a prescription? My mum has taken it for years, she is very closely monitored by her GP and has regular bloods to check her levels and her dose is altered accordingly. Please don't do this yourself.

enoughforme · 05/08/2021 08:08

@FelicityBennett go hasn't bothered check my free t4 since April. Here's the April results, 'normal' but still low via nhs tests, outside normal in private tests;

The free t4 in April for nhs was 13 on a scale of 12-23

Another private test done June and once again the free t4 was 11.9 on a scale of 12-22.

The free t4 is repeatedly at the bottom or just oustsjde the scale of normal.

Why are nhs not even always testing this part.

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confusedlots · 05/08/2021 08:15

I certainly wouldn't buy a prescription only medicine online without a prescription, you have no idea what you are getting if they are prepared to sell this to you illegally.

I would go back to the private specialist and ask for a private prescription for it. Many GP's won't take on responsibility for prescribing medicines recommended by private consultants, especially where it is a specialist area like fertility. Private consultants deal with this all the time, they can write a private prescription so that the responsibility for prescribing and monitoring etc remains with them. You'll obviously pay for the tablets but levothyroxine js not expensive so I don't imagine this will be too much even with the private mark up.

I totally get that you are feeling desperate, but please make sure you don't do anything dodgy.

TakeYourFinalPosition · 05/08/2021 08:22

I really, really wouldn’t buy Thyroxine online.

I appreciate that you’re feeling desperate, but the wrong medication, or fake medication, could make you so much worse.

vivainsomnia · 05/08/2021 08:23

If your fertility consultant knows best than the two others, he should be happy to prescribe. I expect he won't though because although he said that you should be on it, he probably meant that it might be worth investigating the benefits of taking it despite your 'normal' results. He is not an endocrinologist and won't have the expertise to consider what is a normal or abnormal level, and certainly not be in a position to monitor you, which would be a requirement taking this drug.

Your best and safest move forward is to convince your GP to let you give it a try. Not going all accusatory, insinuating that you know better, but that something is telling you that you really would benefit from it. Agree to try for 3 months, do tests again, and if you don't feel clear benefits from it, you'll agree to stop.

If you go and get the drug privately, you won't be able to get monitored and that's very dangerous, especially if the doctors are correct and you don't need it. Again, I am not a clinician but I have read and heard from people who take it that you can go from hypo to hyper and vice versa if you are not monitored closely. You will lose all your GP's trust in you and that will do a lot more damage going forward than not being on it.

Orangesandlemons82 · 05/08/2021 08:32

I don't think simple online pharmacy will fulfil your prescription request. This is what the small print says:
Please note, this service is only available for patients who are currently prescribed Levothyroxine on repeat by their GP.

Regarding when to take bloods early mornings are best before food and drink, this was advised to me patient to patient on health unlocked thyroid forum.

ChainJane · 05/08/2021 08:41

I've used Inhouse Pharmacy before and never had any issues with them, always received my order in less than a week. For a while it was cheaper to buy my inhalers from them than getting them on prescription here.

It's perfectly legal to buy prescription medicines from abroad because the pharmacies are not bound by UK law and therefore don't require a prescription first. Obviously there are exceptions to this if you're trying to but banned substances like morphine. But for normal medicine it's fine.

Namechange1million · 05/08/2021 08:47

From your last doctor blood tests it seems your ranges were normal. So they wouldn't keep blood testing you for something that isn't a issue. You have private blood tests that show you are. 0.1 point off the normal range. So is that really reason to believe that you have an underactive thyroid? If your tsh was over 4 I would agree that you have an underactive thyroid, but around 2 is in the good normal range. So I see why your doctor has dismissed that there is an issue. You seem to have focused on thyroid being the reason for your miscarriages and don't want to look into any other causes / reasons. I don't think thyroid is your problem. I think you need to give it more time to TTC. I worry that you taking levothyroxine will cause you problems in the long run. If you still think your thyroid is the issue see if your doctor will do another round of blood tests. If the tests still show everything normal then you need to accept that you don't have a thyroid problem.

Grinch48 · 05/08/2021 08:51

I’ve bought lots of stuff online that I can’t get from my doctors I use
Health Express
Dr Fox
Dr Felix
Pharmacia
UKMeds
You fill out an online consultation and a doctors reviews it
If you have filled it out correctly you get it

I get cystitis at least once every year so I always make sure I have a packet of the tablets at home as an emergency
I also get the period delay pill

enoughforme · 05/08/2021 08:56

@Namechange1million thank you but u don't think you've fully taken all of the information into account.

My first miscarriage was when the thyroid was undetected at this point my TSH was in the forties!!! As I said in earlier post servely overactive. Whilst no miscarriage can be one hundred percent proven to a specific cause, I've been told it was highly likely to be thyroid.

I then did have medication and since coming off that thyroid has been low around these levels,

Once again I will say I've read many articles and booked that say the range is Too wide, that is why I am suffering symptoms as I am on the border.

The levels are not suitable for everyone.

I am not letting it go because I have brittle hair and all other symptoms linked to thyroid so it is clearly still an issue.

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vivainsomnia · 05/08/2021 08:57

You fill out an online consultation and a doctors reviews it
And that works well for certain conditions. It doesn't for thyroid issues because patients receiving treatment need to be monitored.

As stated below, Thyroxine is available on line for patients who already have a prescription and rather go that way than through the repeat prescription route, and also because these companies can often get the drugs for cheaper.

I would be amazed if any reputable UK online pharmacy agreed to send thyroxine to patients without a prescription and continue to do so on-goingly without any check. If they do they need reporting.

enoughforme · 05/08/2021 08:58

I said I'd been taking it for 12 months probably why I managed to get it

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vivainsomnia · 05/08/2021 09:01

So you lied???? This is bad OP. They should still be asking for evidence.

It's clear OP that you are not going to let this go. Are you receiving any treatment for your depression?

enoughforme · 05/08/2021 09:07

@vivainsomnia no because it's not depression it is thyroid.

Previously took antidepressants and came off because it's my thyroid

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enoughforme · 05/08/2021 09:07

Yes I lied??

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enoughforme · 05/08/2021 09:13

I know it's thyroid linking because whenever I get depressed my levels are outside normal of borderline

When I'm not depressed ranges are in the middle so there's obviously a link

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