Plump up the yam, til your beet are stompin, and the jam is pumpkin - 10/10 Club

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Thanks Lionheart,

Do you mind me asking, what you mean by tiny, and when he got under the covers with you how old was he? Also when he was ontop of the duvet, was he in a baby sleeping bag, or under blankets?

you can feed while cycling surely not?

From when he was born, Wombling. On the first night we put him in the cot and he looked so tiny

(even though he was a big baby) that we relented and kept him with us.

It was winter so we wrapped him in a blanket and it was easy to do monitor because we were in constant touch and could feel how

hot/cold he was and adjust accordingly.

I think we switched him around and put him between us when he was about seven or eight months old,

or when he got a bit more mobile and stronger so that he'd let us know if he wasn't comfy by wriggling or kicking.

He'd sleep in the cot sometimes too (it was hotter by then) but it was one that had a side you could put down completely so more like an entension to the bed.

He'd start the night there and usually roll over at some point into the bed.

DS2 missed that and won't sleep in the bed with us because he prefers his cot.

How come they aren't legal, NQC, because there is no side protection?

If I got one I'd get a new bike to go with it, I think.

By feed, I mean give food, not boob. Boob would be tricky.

I don't know why they're legal, someone in a cycle shop told me that no front seats are legal in the EU. That can't be right, though, as there's a Dutch one that's still available everywhere, I think.

I do know WeeRide seems only to be available online now. They're made in Canada, and perfectly legal there. I just don't think they're EU-safety-approved.

oh right i thought there was no end to the possibilities of breast feeding for a min

I'm sure DS2 would be up for it, if I gave him a chance. I'm sure he's asked for it on the bike before.

Thanks Lionheart, V useful. DS is 7 months, and seems to be spending more and more time in bed with us, so I think we are co-sleeping by default!

He tends to be in a sleeping bag, but once I am feeding him, he seems to end up under the duvet too, and I am worried about him overheating. I think he just needs to be in our bed w/out his own covers, just under ours.

What did you do Franny, or anyone?

boco your dp is v stressed then? can sympathise, my dh is beyond stressed most of the time

I am far too tired now I went to my clients for a quick hour's meeting, I wasn't really well enough for an hour but I don't want to lose them because they are the only work I have at hte moment.

it went on for two hours and halfway through the table started moving underneath me I swear, and I was shaking by the time I left

so my euphoria at being well enough to put the bins out yesterday has completely gone

have had half apple, raisins, veg soup, hummous (can;'t remember if ths counts) and am contemplating peeling an orange but it looks like too much hard work

trying to catch up with thread...

erm.

People I fancy in books. Erm, Jude (the Obscure, he just needed some good, guilt free f)

Erm a character in a beautiful book called Precious Bane by Mary Webb - Kester Woodseaves, the gorgeous, manly weaver who is the catch of the neighbourhood but eschews blatant come-ons from local green-eyed trollope to devote his life to Prue Sarn, cursed with a hare-lip and therefore never likely to marry or have children on account of her affliction. Honestly, read it and you'll all want Kester too....

Loads more, I'm sure. Just can't think. Quite fancying Mary Karr's dad a little in the book I am reading at the moment (Liar's Club). He comes accross as very passionate. Though violent and alcoholic

Did anyone evr read a teenage book about a young witch called Laura Chant? Her boyfriend Sorenson got me a little worked up in my teenage years (male witch, sensitive and with Powers!!)

Wombling, DS was born at home and from birth the midwife popped him into bed between me and the wall (b/feeding women are much more aware of where the infant is in the bed than the father, at least in the beginning). DS was in t-shirt and nappy (autumn baby) under the duvet with us. I did without a pillow until he was 6 months old. I slept on my side curled in a C shape around him and somehow just knew in my sleep if he was too hot/cold/vanishing under the covers. He generally slept by choice with his head shoved in my arm pit anyway so he was never in danger of being smothered by the duvet.
He still sleeps with us, between us now, and as he has become much more mobile now he wears an all in one sleepsuit. This is because his pj top bottom would come adrift in the night and he'd get a cold back as always, he ends up out of the covers with his head wedged in my arm pit (still, ) and his feet lodged in his father's ear. We have an enormous bed and don't mind this.

See, Mr Darcy is a case in point. Didn't get the idea until I saw him all fleshed out.

I was not impressed by Colin Firth as Mr Darcy. I mean it's a long time ago, my O level, but I don't remember him poncing about all wet

My Mr Darcy would never have got into a dirty pond

God FMF, Jude the Obscure, yes! (although I was rather influenced by the film as well )

Wombling, we only started co-sleeping when ds was 6mo... by then we felt he was big enough to look after himself in our bed. Even in the middle of winter he kicks the covers off

Oh I love Mr Darcy too (I do like the character but I think Colin Firth himself may have a little bit to do with it...)

It was hot, fkd, an exception had to be made.

You two are asking for trouble with that Jude lad.

I sometimes get quite enthused by biographies (had a definite thing for George Mallory for a while...which was nice ) and have been known to develop eloborate dreamscapes loosely based around Georgette Heyer. Lord knows what any feminist thinkers would make of that.

The trouble is that characters on screen have dominated my imagination for so long now that I find it hard to operate fantasy without a visual prop. Even though I know perfectly well that their appealing aspects are down to good writing and the actors concerned probably have none of the attractive traits. Sob.

Wombling, I have co-slept with all 4 (although rarely simultaneously ). Yes, from birth. I think it's a common sense thing really, re covers and temperatures. Bf mums tend to be incredibly aware.
I put very little babies further up the bed, more at pillow level but having moved pillows away a bit. And they have been under duvets earlier than recommended on occasion, but not super warm duvets, and not fully covered, and dependent upon room temperature/weather.

Why has nobody mentioned Mr Knightly?

Knightley.

And what about Henry Tilney?

Knightley's a prig, not fanciable at all.

TooT, i've sent the parcel today.

hello lovely ones

just been reading about the Frost Fair at Bankside in December....sounds fab....husky dog sledding,ice sculptures,lantern parades,workshops,market stalls etc
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Hello again. I am on the train. It will leave soon and the wrieless connection will go.

TooT, I haven't yet assessed the shoe collection but I will. I promise.

I have done a bit more F&V eating through the day.

I hate depression. It is a most yucky type of debilitating illness. I find myself having jeckell and Hyde times and being awful and then cross and sad that I am (ie row with DH last night over nothing at all) and feel rather shell-like. But keeping going which is .

Am trying to think who exactly in books i fancy....

I can only cope with co-scleeping after DC have got to a certain age where they will actually sleep in the bed. Seems to be some time after about 18 months I think. DS is very nice to have in bed (except for when he kicks) as he now sleeps the right way round .

Wombling, I think a gro-bag and your duvet might be a bit warm for LO, babies tend to have a higher resting basal body temperature than we adults do. It also depends on the child, some are more 'sweaty' than others. However, we have always had DS under our duvet - a very light Siberian goose down one so quite warm but not heavy IYSWIM. I also used to wear a pajama top (oh the glamour) to keep my shoulders warm when he was smaller - I kept the duvet tucked under my arm at night so it wouldn't ride up and inadvertently smother him. By 7 months your LO should be well able to wriggle out of any uncomfortable duvet arrangement. We tested this by throwing the duvet over DS at about 6 months and seeing him immediately and expertly extricate himself from it.

LL, the Frost Fair sounds good

I am not doing well on the f & v today, as Mrs C put it, apples look so hard and chilly.

I co slept with ds until he was a year
I then moved him into his room & slept in a bed next to his cot (supposedly for a few weeks until he got used to new environment)
Two & a bit years on.......um....I'm still in there....I've tried numerous times to remove myself....ds doesn't seem to mind whether I am there or not...on holiday he slept perfectly happily on his own in an enormous bed all to himself
he is a very confident soul & sleeps wonderfully well

(I just lie awake all night when I cant hear him breathe...I guess I've got to make the transition sometime soon...but it's really very hard)

not done well with f&v today...good fruity breakfast...but wagamama for lunch...so apart from edamame beans...not great really.

ooooooooh....how about this as a 10/10 bouquet?
pineapple bllom anyone?
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