Haven't had vaccinations yet please share experiences

[Hannah25194]

My daughter is now 16 weeks old. I haven't had her vaccinated. I have been trying to make the best decision for her. Can any body please share experiences with me regarding difficulties with vaccinations or wishing they did/didn't vaccinate. I have booked an appointment for a few weeks time but I just can't get me head around the thought of pumping my small baby with chemicals which I feel could cause more harm than good. Please share any experiences which can help me make this decision thanks mummys xx

Firstly it is not the injection itself that I am concerned about. Its the ingredients, metals, the same ingredients you find in rat poison, the increase of autism, the side effects that I have read reports on and posts that mums have put on this site. And the fact that we live in a society today where we are being lead and controlled by such dishonest people how are we to trust that these are for the greater good and they do what they say they do. And as I and my partner have been vaccinated then why is that not passed on to her? I just don't understand why adults/children/babies still get these illnesses diseases when they have already been supposedly vaccinated against them? Surely it's not a vaccination if there is still a chance of my child contracting the illness? I think it's a bit extreme to say that because I haven't chosen to vaccinate her yet and if I've taken her out the house that she could of died. I am out the house every single day with her even if it's a short walk to the shop she needs fresh air obviously if you lived their life in fear that everytime they stepped out the door their baby could die I feel that would be very unhealthy. She is so alert and happy I would really struggle if after her vaccines she was not ever the same again and that would of been because of my decision to put something alien into her body.... I was asking for opinions for and against and any personal experiences to help me make my OWN informed decision. Some of you have been very helpful where as some have just been quite rude and I don't think that's helpful when I'm just another mum asking for advice. If you read the post I HAVE made an appointment. The reason they got put off in the beginning was because she had a chest infection and after being told by a doctor to delay them because of this I started questioning the real necessity of them.

Oh my fucking god

Sirlee66 Thankyou for that video

Many, many humans take rat poison every day and stay healthy.

Warfarin is a licensed drug. It's a blood thinner and for some people a life saver.

All of your concerns aren’t entirely ridiculous, but they can all be addressed.

This is an excellent webpage to talk you through vaccine ingredients. I didn’t know that formaldehyde occurs naturally in our bloodstream - despite being ‘rat poison’. vk.ovg.ox.ac.uk/vaccine-ingredients

The link to autism was only ever made with MMR, not the first few inoculations. That link has been robustly demonstrates to be false by a number of different research groups. These research groups are not paid by pharmaceutical agencies, they are using large population databases to track incidence of things like autism against introduction of MMR. Their results are convincing, objective and were sufficient to see Wakefield struck off. The damage he continues to do is astonishing and shameful.

We don’t pass on all immunity because that’s not how human genetics works. There would be no illness if that were the case. There is some passive immunity offered by breastfeeding or immunisations given to the mother before the baby is born, but these wear off fairly quickly.

It IS scary to get your baby vaccinated for the first time. I’m a scientist who worked in a children’s hospital and i found it made me nervous, but those fears are unfounded. My children are vaccinated, and hardly bothered about it. I’m glad you made an appointment, and made an appointment for when your baby is well. It’s good that you’re asking questions - you SHOULD know what’s involved if you want to.

My youngest DS had a significant reaction to the whooping cough part of the baby vaccines and it really made us think. He had all but MMR but now he is a teen I feel he needs to have it. His older brother had all with no ill effects. I can see both sides and it is a hard call but you have to look at statistics. Vaccines do more good than bad.

Hmm you don't understand that vaccinations don't pass on to babies. But you believe nutters on the Internet about metals and chemicals in vaccinations..... OK then.

Obviously your child is not protected against these diseases at the moment. Therefore if she catches one of them she could potentially die.

Get over yourself.

I just don't understand why adults/children/babies still get these illnesses diseases when they have already been supposedly vaccinated against them?

Errrr they don't. That's kind of the point. It's the non-vaccinated people that get these illnesses.

Do you really think the entire medical and pharmaceutical industries are all in cahoots and lying to the population at large in order to sell drugs? Really? So then I assume you'll never seek medical help for yourself or your child. No calpol, antibiotics, inhalers, surgery, anaesthetic, x-ray, anti-convulsive medication ever.

And unless you are a PhD qualified immunologist, which clearly you're not, you are in no way academically able to make an informed decision.

absolutely ridiculous

By delaying you've already missed giving your DD one of the vaccinations. The oral Rotavirus vaccine isn't given if the course starts after 15 weeks.
www.nhs.uk/conditions/vaccinations/rotavirus-vaccine/
Many new mums feel anxious about the childhood vaccines but IMO the benefits massively outweigh the risks.

You're too late now for your DD to have the rotavirus vaccine (first dose has to be given by 15 weeks), so your hesitation means already she's missed that window to be protected against that.
Parenting is a lifelong step of decisions doing what we think is in the best interest of keeping our DC healthy. Immunisation is the first major one and the balance of probability for the vast vast majority of DC is that it's absolutely the best and responsible thing. Get them done.

Don't vaccinate

As long as you're happy to take the blame if your child is harmed by a preventable illness

And FFS how can an intelligent adult with access to the Internet still believe the autism thing?

Yes it's horrible seeing them cry when they are vaccinated.
Yes it's hard seeing them upset/clingy for a day or two afterwards (if you are unlucky).
However, imagine just how much worse it would be if they caught one of illnesses and then had to have needles/be ill for longer/be affected in the long term... or worse.

I'm pretty old. Watching my tough as old boots mum describing how it was when I had whooping cough was chilling. She had nightmares on and off for the rest of her 90 years in which she heard me cry and struggle for breath.

"we live in a society today where we are being lead and controlled by such dishonest people"

Do you really think the ancient Chinese emperors, the sun Kings or Henry VIII were nicer more honest & less power hungry? Pah. Be very grateful you live now.

Here's a baby with measles. Want your child to have to go through this?

Here's a girl who survived polio. Look good?

Need any more?

I'm in a similar position to you OP. My first two were immunised. I've not got round to immunising LO yet as I noticed there are more vaccinations given now than when other DC were babies, one of which is Hep B. I used to work in substance misuse and know a lot about Hep B. I can't think of one good reason to vaccinate my baby against it. When I tried to have this discussion with the nurse the info she gave me didn't make a lot of sense. It made me question the other vaccinations so I started seeking more info. I know a fair few families now who haven't vaccinated and a fair few who have. In the end I decided I wanted to have some of the vaccinations but not others and again tried to have this conversation with the nurse but I was told its 'all or nothing'. This made me annoyed / suspicious again. If it was all really about health care then surely we have a right to choose? I honestly think some of the immunisations are unnecessary and also think it's unwise to overload a babies immune system with numerous diseases at once, especially directly into the blood stream. I totally understand your hesitation. I've made three separate appts and cancelled each time because I uneasy. Unfortunately it's not as clear cut as all the other posters claim. There ARE complications sometimes and these are not typically well documented for numerous reasons. I'd be interested to hear how you proceed....

I despair, I really do.

Your child could contract a preventable illness and die if you don't vaccinate. It really is that simple.

Stories from other mums and dads are no good as a basis to make decisions, because they are just that -individual highly selective stories. What you need is millions of stories that have been checked and verified. And for the sum total of knowledge to be extracted from those stories.

I would strongly recommend learning about how to weigh up evidence and what sources to give credence to. It's a key life skill.

As much as I agree with posters saying that vaccinations are far more favourable that the diseases they protect from, after our experience of the 8 week jabs, I think it's irresponsible for posters to be saying that OPs baby won't respond negatively to the jabs - there's no way of knowing that.

My DS had a terrible reaction to the first lot: temperature of 41 degrees, hospitalised and given huge doses of paracetamol to bring this down, irritable and fractious for at least two weeks afterwards. We thought it had changed his personality for good.

It's not something I'd wish on my worst enemy and there is a reason why the government have a vaccination injury fund - some children are irreparably damaged by vaccines: sure, it's less than the chance of an unvaccinated child becoming ill but it does happen.

You can’t think of one good reason to vaccinate newborns against Hep B despite working with people infected with it?!
How about to prevent transmission of Hep B from infected individuals in close contact with the baby (maternal transmission mainly but also from other infected people who have no idea they are infected), to avoid the long term complications such as liver cancer?

Also vaccinations are NOT put “directly into the bloodstream”. You are talking bollocks.

(That to realistmum)

You've done lots of research of course. AKA reading stuff on the internet