If you decided to delay or to forgo MMR, how did health professionals react?

[usedtogotomars]

Just wondering about this (and haven’t yet decided) - do they respond in a way that respects your view or do they try to persuade you to have the vaccinations given to your child?

And am i genever?

would you like to find any of my posts where I “push” the MMR autism “nonsense”?

Please do and quote.

I shall wait.

As a health visitor I inwardly eye roll. As a professional I make sure you are aware of the risks and are appropriately informed about the nonsense research, and about the importance of herd immunity, particularly for those most vulnerable. If you still decide not to vaccinate then that's on you. Nobody professional is going to give you a hard time about it, your friends and family on the other hand.....

Yes, what iboughtsnowboots said

If you trust your medical practitioner then this shouldn't be an issue.
My GP and my daughters consultant were helpful and were not wanking around trying to win an argument on the internet, which was helpful too. This is a chat board. It's pretty irrelevant unless you happen upon someone who has a similar history and also sees your GP.
If you are serious go and talk to them.
If you're not you should do something else entirely

I can assure you I am not “wanking about” but because the health records I need to access are not mine it is difficult for me to have a full picture. All I know is what I know, in a sense.

Desperatelyseekingcruising

In fairness that doesn't make you sound that professional.

Why pagwatch? Because I have a personal opinion that I keep to myself? And give information to ensure the parents are making an informed decision? Okaaaaaay then...

I never accused you of wanking around but you do sound combative now so I'll butt out.

The basics remain the same, if you trust your GP and you have genuine concerns then there is no alternative to talking it through and to ensure you make the right choice you kind of have a duty to do that - even if you my find it challenging.
In the 'this is difficult' vs 'this is my child's health' equation it's pretty one sided for me

OP whatever choice you make they have to respect. Just be prepared to explain why and that's it. To be honest I do not think we owe anyone an explanation of our decisions that are perfectly legal and part of our freedom of choice.

I’m not actually angry. I am put out by some of the ruder remarks, because I am afraid I have tried to remain calm but I am a human and it is immesely frustrating to be told you have said something that you have not.

I also think it is a bit much to accuse me of lashing out when I have been told that I am killing my child. Killing other people, selfish, stupid, that my gene pool should be eliminated, that I’m worried about autism - perhaps I am but a lifetime of serious disability is weighing rather more heavily on my mind tbh. And also, that works two ways. The discussion is impossible when people won’t accept that for some people vaccinations might not be a good thing, but we will never know.

Sorry Pagwatch but you did say something about wanking around on the internet and not talking to my G.P. I can’t talk to my G.P. I don’t have the information available I need. Hence asking here what sort of reaction I’ll get if I just say no, I am not happy about these vaccinations.

Thank you babyturtles - it's been a year since he came home and he's mostly doing well, still some breathing issues and the ongoing illness but he's much stronger now.

I was always very adamant that there'd be no question that my kids are vaccinated and obviously we have been through the trauma of your child getting a vaccine preventable illness, but even I find I do have anxiety around vaccines (not that I believe for a second that they cause autism but I think negative responses and injuries are feasible in a minority of cases and as someone with a child with a 1 in 80,000 disability, I know rarity isn't a comfort if it happens to your child). So if I feel like that after what we've experienced, I'm sure it's hard for those who've never experienced these illnesses themselves and / or have seen actual or perceived vaccine injuries in those close to them. I respect people's right to choose but I wish that those who do choose this were more responsible about being around others when unvaccinated. I'll never know who brought whooping cough into nicu and risked the lives of all those babies including my son. It's really heartbreaking.

You may not be able to access anybody else's health records, but a doctor can make enquiries (including seeking consent from whoever is your affected relative's legal guardian).

You do not have to make this decision on your own.

I feel as if I do. I don’t feel I can trust anybody, especially not doctors.

These people that choose not to vaccinate your kids, remember they’ll grow up and judge for themselves one day... my parents are anti Vaxers and I am furious at them for not vaccinating me.
Especially because I was very ill as a child with asthma and I had trouble joining the armed forces because of it.
As soon as I was old enough I went and got everything. It makes me shudder to think how long I was unprotected for.

OP

Of course you can talk to your GP. Explain your concerns, whatever your knowledge of them is and see what they say.
you are not trying to win a court case. Just explain the area of your concern. They may be able to give you advice to help you decide or clarify your concerns

You see, whatever I do will be wrong, which sounds dramatic but it’s how I feel. I feel like whatever decision I make will somehow be the wrong decision and it really is classic case of being caught between the devil and the deep blue sea.

Well, if you cannot trust 'anybody' then you equally cannot trust any of us - I think you are so worried about this issue that you can no longer see the forest for the trees.

I really feel quite strongly that you need to speak to somebody in RL, rather than go round in circles in your head.

But I don’t trust them pagwatch

I feel I will just get the brush off. No ones going to take me seriously. It took an intelligent and articulate woman the best part of two decades to get a payout for her vaccine damaged son remember, they won’t just admit it.

Sure desperatelyseekingcruising. It's hard to see how health visitors get such a bad reputation.

The certainty you are looking for does not exist.

I have had no concerns about vaccination, have no family history of bad reactions, was absolutely happy to have all of mine vaccinated in the usual time frame and none of them had any problems - however, even under these 'ideal' circumstances I was relieved when they were fine. A lingering worry is normal but that applies to so many things when responsible for a small human being.

The balance of risk is heavily skewed in favour of vaccination for most people - you need RL advice.

I do not know in how many other ways I can express this.

Wishing you all the best and good night

My gp was more than prepared to listen when i queried mmr booster with her. Ds did have his first febrile convulsion until after a couple of months after he mmr but by the time his booster was due he had had nearly 20, but as she pointed out the diseases we vacvinate are more likely to cause fs. They were happy to do it in a hospital setting if i wanted.

Yes, but it seems you decided to go down the MMR route in the end and I’m really not sure that I will.

Anyway, I’m sorry if I did sound combative. I didn’t mean to. Just worried sick, heavily pregnant and, well, worried.

I haven’t read whole thread. Never had any problems. One GP asked me to write a letter to get the HA off his back. Some have told me they would have made the same decision. Only one lectured me, but he was an F1 or something, looked about ten and I knew more about vaccination than him (before anyone starts frothing I have a PhD in a relevant subject). The more senior the doctor the more likely they seem to be to agree with (or at least understand) our choice. Guess they’re used to dealing in uncertainties.

Thank you