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If you decided to delay or to forgo MMR, how did health professionals react?

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usedtogotomars · 19/12/2017 16:41

Just wondering about this (and haven’t yet decided) - do they respond in a way that respects your view or do they try to persuade you to have the vaccinations given to your child?

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Catcrazy008 · 19/12/2017 19:20

No child has ever died due to autism...
Measles on the other hand...
No choice really

IamClaire · 19/12/2017 19:22

Oops see the thread moved on quite alot while I was typing that/cooking tea.....

usedtogotomars · 19/12/2017 19:22

I have elicited not to have the flu or whooping cough jab.

I think you know it is not as simple or as straightforward as ‘would I prefer my child to die from measles or would I prefer them to have life changing and serious disabilities.’ Ideally, neither would happen but ignoring a history of adverse reaction would not be wise, I feel.

Young, it is extremely rude to assume autism is the only adverse reaction to be borne from vaccine damage. It isn’t ‘autism or death, which would you rather.’ It can be rather more stark than that. I’m not even going to get into the autism debate. But there are other side effects that have serious serious ramifications.

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usedtogotomars · 19/12/2017 19:26

cat why don’t you have a little think about what you just posted

How low do you actually want to go?

But anyway you are right, autism doesn’t kill a child.

How about numerous exhausting, terrifying and violent fits on a daily basis? How about a lifetime of disability so severe your functioning level remains at roughly the same age as it was when you had your Vaccinations? Meaning you won’t get measles but nor will you ever have a vocabulary beyond ten words or so, you will never be continent, you will ever live independently, even in supported living, you will never walk, run, dance, sing, you will never have a good nights sleep, you will never leave home unless it’s to a Home with a capital h and you will never live anything even close to a normal life.

Like I say I knew I wouldn’t be able to post without getting emotional. Some of you, you really do have the luxury of not having to worry about th above, I wish to god I didn’t either.

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Nothomealone · 19/12/2017 19:26

I imagine you would be allowed to make this decision as it is yours to make.
I would expect the people around you to be more vocal at your choices than hcp.
Upthread I read it isn't any one else's business, I am guessing that this wouldn't be what you or the commentator would be saying if you wanted treatment from the NHS if your DC contracted one of the diseases they would have been vaccinated against. But I may have done you a disservice and it is possible you would just keep your DC at home and let the illness run its course.

genever · 19/12/2017 19:27

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IamClaire · 19/12/2017 19:28

Catcrazy as op says the side effects of the measles vaccine isn't just autism, they include the same side effects as measles so including blindness etc.
Strawberry if that was directed at me yes I do.

MrsTerryPratchett · 19/12/2017 19:29

If the vaccine damaged person is related to your child and the reaction is likely to have a genetic basis, why can't you talk to medical professionals about it? They were happy to talk to me about delaying because of DD's reaction to her vaccinations.

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usedtogotomars · 19/12/2017 19:30

I take it you’ve reported your concerns to Mumsnet then.

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IamClaire · 19/12/2017 19:30

Oops I meant isn't autism..

genever · 19/12/2017 19:32

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Rockandrollwithit · 19/12/2017 19:36

DS2's injection schedule was delayed as he had surgery and the surgeon wanted us to wait a certain number of weeks. We had it done as soon as we could.

I've had a seriously ill baby, I just can't understand why anyone would take the risk of not vaccinating.

usedtogotomars · 19/12/2017 19:37

Genever thank you, I probably am feeling defensive so assumed troll.

All I can say is that when you have something big, major happen in your life, it naturally impacts the rest of your life and casts something of a shadow over it, or perhaps more accurately it’s as if certain events or certain ages even are highlighted. My mother was young when she died, although I am still a good decade and a half away from the age she was when she died (late forties)-I imagine as I approach this age I will become tense, perhaps, and question my own health.

Likewise, having experienced severe disability in a baby, having a baby myself it is naturally something I worry about. And having finished work last Friday I now have time to be dwelling on and worrying about various things. Some are silly and I recognise myself they are silly. Some are more pertinent and vaccine damage, no matter how remote and how far away to some of you it may be, the fact is it is not to me. And yet it is something I find traumatic to go through again and again as can be seen from some of these responses - it can be dismissed in a manner that is quite extraordinarily cruel and I worry about this at a time that I will undoubtedly find emotional anyway.

However I have had an answer of sorts via PM which I think is a healthy compromise. So thank you.

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usedtogotomars · 19/12/2017 19:38

rock because they too have known a seriously ill baby I expect.

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DeltaG · 19/12/2017 19:41

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TheEagle · 19/12/2017 19:42

If causation has been proven between your relative’s injury and a vaccine then I presume your HCPs are aware of the situation and have advised you accordingly.

Vaccination is not mandatory in the UK. So your GP cannot compel you to vaccinate your child.

Rockandrollwithit · 19/12/2017 19:43

OP have you investigated the relative risks of vaccine damage compared to the chances of contracting measles? And the risk of permanent damage from measles?

It's understandable to have an emotional reaction to things but sometimes we need to put it aside. My son technically has a disability from a condition that occurs in 1 in 4000 newborns with no genetic basis. Some other parents I have met are very nervous about having another baby due to their experience, even though they logically know that the risk is no different to anyone else. Are your feelings similar?

TheEagle · 19/12/2017 19:43

And echoing everyone above, vaccination is a topic which affects the wider public so of course your decision is other people’s business Hmm

usedtogotomars · 19/12/2017 19:43

There have been some awful awful posts here but I think Deltas is the most crass

No indeed eagle but they can cocerce.

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usedtogotomars · 19/12/2017 19:44

Generally speaking however health records are not considered appropriate to be in the public domain.

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MissConductUS · 19/12/2017 19:45

usedtogotomars, I know the thread has moved quickly, but you never answered my question. Who do you expect won't be honest with you about the adverse reaction risks?

I'm an RN, but I'm also a mum, so I've tried to be simply factual and non-judgemental with you. And as to your original question, as PP have pointed out, some health care providers will push back if you choose not to vaccinate and some will decide it's a waste of time.

youngnomore · 19/12/2017 19:45

DeltaG- bloody hell Shock

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