should I vaccinate my child or not?

[GalaxyDefender2012]

I am currently 17+2 weeks pregant so I have a little while before I decide. But it's something me and my partner have argued about on numerous occasions. To this date I have never had any vaccinations whatsoever. Despite no one believing me throughout my whole life I haven't. I had the vitamin K shot when I was born but that was it. Never anything more. That's just how my mum brought me and my siblings up as her mother had brought her and her siblings up. And I think her mother before that. My partner on the other hand has had most of his childhood vaccinations just like all of his siblings and all the other children in his family. I would have liked to have carried on the no vaccination tradition if you like. But he strongly wants our child to have them all. And seeing as it is both of our choices it's a subject that we've rowed about in the past. Can anyone let me know their views on whether vaccinations should be administered of not?

If you don't vaccinate then the morally correct thing to do would be to isolate your child. Which isn't morally correct in itself.

Yes, vaccinate. Then all your child's peers are also protected.

It isn't a decision that affects just you and your child.

Bollocks.

Oh, whoops, sorry.

I don't think that's quite true. Maybe it would be a good idea if you go and read up a bit more on the subject? Just a suggestion..........

www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-17509/Why-Japan-banned-MMR-vaccine.html

yournewswire.com/why-did-japan-ban-mmr-vaccine/

vactruth.com/2016/06/23/japanese-government-bans-mmr-vaccine/

www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/japanese-government-continues-ban-mmr-vaccine

Bollocks......

Hi all,

Thanks for the reports. Can we ask everyone to make their points with personally attacking? We'll have to remove the thread if we continue to receive reports of posts that break guidelines.

Haven't rtft but here's my tuppence worth...

We are lucky enough to live in a country with a pretty comprehensive vaccination programme for kids which had saved and will continue to save countless lives.

You should absolutely take advantage of this and vaccinate your children. It is undoubtedly the best thing for them and for everyone else.

I have worked in countries where vaccinations are not readily available and children die every day of preventable diseases, as they did in this country before vaccination became the norm.

So yes, you should vaccinate your kids. It's the right thing to do.

DD1 is seriously allergic to almost everything you can name and I had her vaccinated, despite the risk of an allergic reaction from the vaccine. DD2 caught a very mild dose of measles just before she had the MMR and she was terribly ill. It was dreadful. The chances of having a severe allergic reaction to vaccines is vanishingly small, even if you do have allergies. Scare stories abound - ignore them. For everyone's sake - your's, your child's and the general population around you, have them vaccinated.

user there is not a single credible source on this list of websites.

www.newscientist.com/article/dn7076-autism-rises-despite-mmr-ban-in-japan/

Pressed send too soon, here's another article www.bmj.com/content/330/7491/558.2

You're not the only one who can google.

The pros of vaccinating children BY FAR outweigh the cons.

Basing your decision on a family tradition is just bonkers - keep a favourite family name or something, but don't risk your DC's health.

Take some RL advice - plenty out there.

I also suggest you have a look at the good look at 'Bad Science' by Goldacre how these 'scare stories' come about.

And, lastly, yes, of course vaccinations can have side effects, every effective medicine has potential adverse effects. Otoh, the 'negative side effects' of many vaccinated against childhood infections can be death or lifelong disability.
I know where my risk assessment led me.

Stop thinking about this with your emotions, and start thinking rationally.

I know its speculation but they banned it straight away are they loons?

And another one- www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/mmr-vaccine-abandoned-by-japan-but-rise-in-disease-has-killed-85-9182966.html

It's easy to back up your own argument with google searches if you just look for the one side!

Yes. And their research after banning it (in 2001 btw after Wakefield published his fraudulent paper and the world went mad) has strongly DISPROVED a link between the mmr and autism.

If you think the Daily Mail and Vactruth etc are credible sources for medical and scientific information then I'm afraid vaccine damage is the least of your concerns.

The MMR used in Japan contained a different strain for the mumps element.

It is not the same formulation here, and whatever went in there is wholly irrelevant to the safety of the vaccine used in U.K.

Just a tip - if you want to sockpuppet (i.e to change name and write supportive posts for yourself), you have to make a better attempt at changing your writing style.

BTW none of the 'sources' you gave mentioned 1.2 million deformities either.

Sorry - 1.8 million deformities.

OP, I'm not entirely sure how this can really be a "family tradition". My mum was born in the 1940s and did not receive the vast majority of current childhood vaccinations, simply because they were not yet available. So unless you are very young, it is presumably only your mother and yourself who were consciously not vaccinated, as opposed to their simply not being vaccines available - two generations isn't really a "tradition".

And for what it's worth, my mother got measles, mumps and rubella during her childhood, and described each as awful. Several of her friends got polio, and some died. A family friend of a similar age tells of spending a summer going to the funerals of each of her schoolfriends, each in the same little white coffins that were the standard made locally for children, when over a month or two each of them got, and died from, diphtheria in rapid succession.

Good grief why wouldn't you? Be a responsible parent and vaccinate. I love my children and I don't want yours damaging them

I went to the funeral of someone who died from measles a couple of years ago. He died far, far too young.

I believe that no amount of vaccinations will prevent what life has planned for you
I'm assuming you don't take any medication and would refuse all medical treatment for anything then.

beliefs which originated from the times when vaccinations deformed generations.
There are no vaccinations that have deformed generations.
Those beliefs are based on a fallacy.

you know when everyone was saying that she should do what her partner says about taking the vaccinations, I am her partner, and I agree with you guys! my baby should have them but their isn't any reason to be calling her names I know she can say the wrong things ive tried to explain it and she has agreed to do them but their wasn't any need in the name calling just a simple explanation would of been easier! and yes their are defects and side affects but it can also save a lot of people. if your child has had the vaccination then it wouldn't get affected would it? no need for those comments but the baby will be vaccinated! thank you for your points!

Worst sock puppet ever.

You and your partner have very similar writing styles (even if you don't use capital letters)

user1489747084 please Google 'herd immunity'. Then 'immunocompromised children and adults'.

Also, no vaccine can be 100% effective in all people - effects of the illness will be significantly reduced. Vaccination protects us all.

Also there's really no excuse for ignorance about vaccinations in this day and age.