Where to arrange a circumcision

[dawnharvey68]

If we have a boy, we plan on having him circumcised. But it's proving exceedingly difficult finding someone to do it where we live.
My husband was born in the USA where pretty much all boys are circumcised routinely before they leave the hospital and it seems strange here that it is so difficult to arrange such a simple thing.
I'd be interested to hear if others found it as difficult.
It seems quite a common problem in the UK, finding someone who will perform a newborn circumcision, so I a support group for those trying to sort it out:
health.groups.yahoo.com/group/babycircuk/
All I have been able to find so far is that if you are in the south of England/London area, you are particularly well served:
Luton: www.circumcision-agency.com/
London: www.circumcisions.co.uk/
London: www.theportlandhospital.com/
London: www.samedaydoctor.co.uk/links.aspx
Reading: www.circumcision-uk.com/
UK Mohels: www.lubavitchuk.com/services/religious/mohellist.shtml
www.mohel-circumcision.co.uk/
www.londoncircumcision.co.uk/
plus probably others that would appear on a search.
Does anyone know of anyone else that will perform them?

rofl raven..thought reason 17 was the best and most important, too ;)...

I don't think it's scaremongering Eleusis. I think that there is an increasing body of opinion that it is an unnecessary culturally driven medical intervention. The health arguments seem very weak to me. The danger of any unnecessary intervention is high - infection being only one, let alone pain. It does seem a bizarre act. Why can't religious and cultural groups rely on ritual and common cultural practice and history to make themselves distinct? This act seems virtually medieval to me.
I'm sorry if I offend anyone - that's not my intention. The Guardian article I linked earlier really horrified me. The fact that a father would let his family blackmail him into circumcising his child seemed morally dubious to me.

The guardian article shocked me too.
What grandparents to say that they would disown their grandson if he wasn't cicumcised. Made me wonder how they'd feel if he didn't fit in with their "ideal" in other ways.
Awful. Cross with the author and his wife for giving in to such manipulation.

My son was circumcised by a fantastic GP in Stamford HIll in NOrth London. It was done in his surgery (so in clinical environment) and the after care was also good.
My DH was not particularly happy with my religious preference to have this done, but was reassured and even attended and witnessed the event after meeting this man.
I don't think it appropriate to give his details openly (particularly as there appear to be lots of people who don't approve). If you want to contact me privately, then I will give you his name and number.
I really would recommend him.
Another of my NCT group also went to him and had no problem at all.

I am frankly amazed at the hysteria this topic seems to have caused.
?this is apublic forum and the op is asking for other peoples opinions ,if she dosent like it why ask,or is this forum only for people who agree with her ? you have your opinion i and many others have ours.if you dont like it tough !?
Firstly, it is a shame that a number of posters never even seem to have read what I wrote originally, instead of jumping on the bandwagon.
I specifically said that I did NOT create this thread to debate the topic, precisely to AVOID it degenerating into what it has.
Those who are so against it, why not create your own thread entitled ?Why I disapprove of circumcision? and you can post your views there to your hearts? content instead of hijacking this thread.
It seems a few people feel they have to post the same opinion 20-30 times ad nauseam as though you might convince me. Well you won?t, just as I won?t convince you, so why waste your breath posting in a thread that wasn?t set up to debate the issue?
I might disapprove of religious schools, but I wouldn?t dream of posting 20-30 times in a thread for parents who choose that option about how they are bad parents trying to brainwash their kids.
And no-one here has ever said anything about doing it for cosmetic reasons ? I have no idea where that came from.
Because circumcision is less practised here, there is less familiarity with it, hence some of the reactions no doubt. Like it or not, it is often necessary for medical problems, and I wonder if the parents of boys who had it done for such reasons screw them up my going on about ?barbarism? and ?mutilation?? Indeed there have been cases when some parents have resisted a necessary circumcision, putting a boy through years of traumatic foreskin manipulations, before the inevitable has to be done anyway.
We all have responsibility for our own kids. If you disapprove of circumcision, fine that?s your view. But have the courtesy to respect the views of others who disagree with you. Some of the responses here have been pretty nasty.
What should I do, create a separate thread for all the antis, so you can go post there to your hearts content and leave this thread alone?

Glad to hear you found someone jambomum and that things went ok for you guys.

you can not tell people not to post! It's the same with any thread.

This to some people, is a violation of a child's rights, and therefore people can post in response to your original message which states that if you have a boy you plan to have him circumcised

that is not the same as starting a thread looking for reassurance because your older child is needing it done for medical reasons - it is completely different.

Most people are anti because is't inherently wrong. If we've helped convince one person and hopefully you of the inherent wrongness then mnet has served a good purpose.

There are probably Jewish and mulsim bulletin boards where a thread like this might well get you a different reception! Actually that's where we should be off doing our good work and posting rather than preaching to the converted here.

I think the only way you can keep a discussion to yourself is to start a Yahoo group and choose who joins. Telling people who disagree to go away is just going to fan the flames.

lol Xenia - you first!

I did read your OP actually DH68.

You're setting up a support group for non-medical/religious cicumcisions, right. In that you don't mention religious grounds in your OP - you just say it's strange that it's so hard to get someone to do it over here and that your dh, being American, comes from a country where boys are routinely circumcised.

Well please don't be surprised if people feel strongly that there are very good and convincing reasons why circumcisions are not provided routinely here. And as I said in my later post, if you were doing it for religious purposes I would imagine that such info would be readily available within your faith community.

That Guardian article just made me cry . That little boys circumcision was truly done for ALL the wrong reasons.

dawnharvey68, this is a sensitive issue I appreciate that and I regret any offence.

But I would be very interested to know what you thought of that Guardian article. The parents had decided not to circumcise and then the grandparents threatened to stop all contact if they failed to circumcise. The parents then circumcised the child to avoid losing all contact with the paternal family. Is that an ethical position?

To Skyler: thank you for the apology! As far as the article went, I thought the father was on the fence and torn between his wife and parents' views.

You will no doubt be relieved to know that I disagreed with the pressure put on them and do not think it was right to threaten them about such a thing. Within a religious community the importance of circumcision has a cultural and identity factor which doesn't apply to us, and which in this case led to extreme and indefensible behaviour.

I have never said all boys should be circumcised. It is up to the individual parents to decide yea or nay, on the basis of unbiased information and freedom from pressure, either way.

Everyone else should respect that decision, whether it is to circumcise or not.

Sorry, that was to ipamanegirl, got mixed up there!

Thanks dh68, I come from a very RC family and have to contend with my sister constantly baptising my ds whenever she thinks I'm not looking to save him from an eternity in limbo I think!
It's good to hear what you think. Mumsnet is a glorious thing.

Anyone else who feels that circumcision should be offered as an option in NHS maternity hospitals, as it is in American ones, is invited to sign this petition:

petitions.pm.gov.uk/circumcision/

LOl not a petition I would want to sign, thank you very much!

honestly don;t think many mnetters will sign this to have circumcision offered as routine in the UK...

What a waste of NHS resources! Can't believe this is for real

Yes, at a time when ante-natal care is facing cuts across the board!

Yep, it's time to introduce free cosmetic surgery for babies.

The mind boggles.

Oh, and just a thought! But this isn't America, thank fuck. And if things are so great over there, well, hey, on you go! The door's open, no one is forcing you to stay in the UK - there's a nice housing crash and recession awaiting you.

Sick, sick, sick....

Is she serious?

well, gladly this petition isn't really anything to worry about, I think (and hope and pray....) as I truely doubt #10 will take it seriously or even consider it....phew