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Let's love our livers!!!!.................(previously dependant drinkers thread)

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dandycandyjellybean · 13/02/2007 11:08

Tried to post yesterday and couldn't coz it told me that there was no more room. So hope you guys don't mind that I started a new one, apologies for the lame name. And guess what guys, I decided to join the down your drink programme today, as I really want to do something positive about my drinking rather than just repeatedly beating my head against the bottle and then moaning about how much it hurts - physically and metaphorically!!!!
Several things factor in this, I've had quite a break in the last few days as I've had a disc in my back go, and have had to rely on other people to do a great deal of my usual work load. Hence I feel so much better in my head, and it has given me a bit of time and space to think. Plus, am about 3 weeks into my counselling which has had some really positive results too, in helping me to analyse both myself and my situation and find solutions instead of just keep drowning my feelings.
I was also reflecting yesterday that although completely turning around my relationship to alcohol probably won't be ease, this is something that I must be able to do, because I've done it twice before in my life, with other things I've had big issues with.
Firstly, had a really messed up relationship with food for a very long time, and was bulimic for quite a while in my late teens / early twenties. But after a bit of a pathetic suicide attempt put the wind up me, I made a massive change in my eating, told myself I would never diet again, ever, and allowed myself to eat anything I wanted, in the quantites that I wanted and never to deny myself anything again. Yes i did put weight on, quite a lot initially, but it has levelled out over the years, and I can honestly say that I have one of the healthiest relationships with food now of almost anyone I know (especially most of my 'thin' friends).
Secondly, about 4 years ago a very beloved uncle of mine (more like a dad really) died of an aortic anyuerism at 50, and I realised that I was a heart attack waiting to happen if I didn't shift the last of my weight. However, not wanting to diet, I knew that exercise was the only answer. However, just like the dieting, i had tried every exercise fad under the sun and had never stuck to any of them. So, when I announced after my Uncle's funeral that I was going to buy an exercise bike, my lovely dh replied 'you're not spending any more money on exercise equipment that you will only drape your clothes over after the first week!' guess he knows me well. [hlush]. Anyway that was enough to make me think, 'I'll bloody show him!' and so I started swimming 3 or 4 times a week. At first it was sheer bloody mindedness that kept me going, but once i had been doing it for a few weeks I realised that not only did I enjoy it, but it really helped my head (gave me space and time to think). In fact I wrote a book during this time, and I came up with most of my best plot twists whilst pounding up and down the pool.
Consequently, I am now someone who exercises regularly, and have been for the last four years (I even swam 3 times a week all through my pregnancy and only stopped at 38 weeks when they banned me from the pool!!!) Surely, if I can change those things, I can finally, and permanently, get this other monkey off my back.
And just to round off all of this, I was looking at my recycling box out of the kitchen window this morning and it was a bit of a Gillian McKeith 'shame' moment! It is emptied every 2 weeks and there were so many whiskey and wine bottles in there (and I know I've secreted some in the bin in moments of shame!) So, I'll let you know how I get on. (Softstuff, you have been a big motivating factor too, have followed your story on previous threads and feel so incredibly pleased for you and proud of you that you have managed to make such a drastic change, and I figure if you can do it, so can I!!!)
I will bring this long ramble to a close by saying hang in there everyone, and how grateful I am that we all have each other for support. Please, please join me here, and let's keep it up.
{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}

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dandycandyjellybean · 15/03/2007 21:28

'lo, 'lo. Anyone out there?

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dandycandyjellybean · 15/03/2007 22:13

one last time then????...........................

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Flowertop · 16/03/2007 13:21

Hi Cubby, great to hear you sounding so positive! Not much news with me. Didn't drink Mon/Tues but have Wed/Thur. DH is being great in that he has not drank hardly for nearly 3 weeks. Just makes my consumption look worse than ever. Going to Mother's Day assembly in mo which will be lovely. Hope everyone else is doing ok.
Lots of love

keeplaughing · 16/03/2007 13:52

thank god it's not just me...have just happened on this thread and it's all sooooo familiar. can i join in please? have been heavy drinker for ages but recently, finally realised i was out of control. ~amazing how easy it is to kid yourself it's you in control and not the alcohol, esp when you manage a house, kids and a job and still get away with drinking every night. I have always been open with dh about drinking (and he has drunk plenty in the past, but recently cut down) but when i started sneaky late night drinking i knew it was a problem. it got worse due to probs with dh, but i also realised alcohol was one of the probs. Have been going to see counsellor re drinking (not sure how much this is helping but did get me to the point finally when i felt i could say to s.o. that it actually is a problem..)keep promising myself a drink free night but not managed it yet. Have, tho' thought about how much i was going to drink several times to ensure didn't get pissed and end up having a row about something. Ernest, have started Allan Carr book. like it too, but also like the fact that i could stop altogether which is not something i EVER thought i would think. will look at website you have mentioned, but v glad i can talk on mn about this.

losty · 21/03/2007 21:30

any one around?

hellobello · 22/03/2007 11:15

Not really... I've had a losy viral infection for weeks and I'm still trying to drink a bit less. At the moment I'm drinking at weekends with the odd exception. This isn't working very well as I drink too much come Friday night! Still taking the nicotine and sometimes I'm really bashing that. How's everyone else doing? i don't really talk to my councellor about alcohol - there are so many other things, and oddly the eating thing seems to come up a bit more often although I don't have a problem with food any more, apart from feeding the baby, which is a nightmare sometimes. My 8- month-old bashes me and screeches when she doesn't like something and she will still only drink out of a bottle and still only milk. It is really frustrating and she's quite small, though not falling off the charts.

kokeshi · 24/03/2007 03:29

Hey folks,

My apologies for disappearing for a while, I've had a lot going on in RL. Thanks for asking after me, I appreciate your thoughts and kind words.

I had some really fantastic news the other day, I had a phone call from the cochlear implant clinic to say that a cancellation has come up for the 17th of April and would I be interested! I've not stop smiling since then...

I've also been thrown back into the world of work, my friend has been an absolute rock and convinced me that I am the same person I was before and I could fulfill my role. I've done a couple of workshops and I was bricking myself. A few hairy moments but I think it's been great to get out of my comfort zone.

I hope everyone is doing OK, I've been thinking about you all despite my lack of presence on here. Sorry this is brief, I should be in bed! Please keep this thread active, it is a genuine source of support and we all need each other!

With love,

jx

hidesitinthecupboard · 26/03/2007 18:25

Hi all, glad to hear how well some of you are doing.

Haven't been posting myself (but have been reading) as I have been unbelievably bad. Being good lasted 3 nights (and that was a few weeks ago) and has all gone terribly down hill since.

Then had my birthday party week ago, and there is LOADS of booze left, and am 'not so slowly' working my way through it! And DP has definetly noticed (despite drinking it out of kids Scooby Doo beaker [blush[) and has made comments about it.

So decided that today and all this week (til night out saturday) I would be really good. Have stuck to diet and have not opened any alcohol (which believe me is quite an achievement in itself for this time of day).

BUT me and DP have just had a stonking row, and now my willpower has gone to pot and I want a DRINK!!

hidesitinthecupboard · 26/03/2007 18:25
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dandycandyjellybean · 27/03/2007 21:20

can't stop coz i'm dashing off to bed with a real nasty cough virus thingy, but just wanted to ressurect this thread, haven't had time to read much of the recent posts, so don't be offended that I haven't commented. just want to say, we all still need each other guys, please don't let this slip away. and welcome to anyone new... we're normally a lot more active than this! hang in there everyone, will post when am not coughing and spluttering and feeling like a pile of old mans pants!!!

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dandycandyjellybean · 29/03/2007 21:10

hi guys still snot filled and feeling crap, but please come back everybody.... i miss you and kind of feel like I'm here alone . am still having major mental overhaul regarding drink, and big things are really starting to happen. Will post properly as soon as I feel better. Hope you are all okay. [sighs as tumbleweed drifts accross the plain to the sound of deafening silence.......]

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Mercy · 29/03/2007 21:21

cubby, I can talk for a while if you want.

I'm meant to be packing for our holiday but I'm here mnetting instead!

I guess I should introduce myself properly - I've followed this thread on and off - but I know I have a big problem with drinking.

I can be around for a bit cubby

hellobello · 31/03/2007 18:48

Hi all! My mum has been to stay which has been good. We are officially living in poverty which is a bit (really really) scary. So, in theory the 1st thing to go should be booze. Ah well, its the weekend.... Sort of been ok over the past week and mostly fairly sensible. I'm so so angry with our bloody council. They refuse to do anything about illegal traffic wardens and traffic wardens being threatened. They condone criminals, and whenever I go out, I'm reminded of how filthy and dirty the borough is.

dandycandyjellybean · 02/04/2007 21:57

hi, sorry not to post much lately, still down with a horrible, nasty bug. Where is everyone else? Have you all got it too?
Hi mercy, hellobello, hidesit and kokeshi. will post more later when am not feeling totally pants and crappy. hang in there guys, let's not let this thread die, eh?

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Flowertop · 03/04/2007 10:29

Hi sorry for absence. Not sure why have not posted, obviously nothing new to say. Still drinking every day. Have decided to have a few tests and one of them on my liver function. This will either help me to cut down/out the booze or lead me into a false sense of security. Will let you know how I get on. Great news Kokeshi about your implants will be thinking of you on the 17th. Glad to hear your workshop went well you are such a brave lady to face your fear like this. You are obvioulsy very good at what you do. Cubby hope you are feeling good soon. Mercy would be good to hear your story try to post again. This thread really helps. Hellobello sorry to hear things are so crap where you are wish I could say something to help. Hello to Losty and everyone one else.
XX

dandycandyjellybean · 03/04/2007 20:51

hi all still a bit crappy so keeping it short. have got to have a blood test tomorrow (unrelated to drinking!) which includes liver function, so that will be interesting. still have major non drinking rumblings going on, am still digesting the alan carr book. will keep you posted on developments.

Hope your all good, sorry not to be more specific, this flippin' bug is a total nightmare, have felt like a limp dishrag for the last 2 weeks, and still having to look after dh and ds!!!! but hey ho, it will no doubt pass soon.

hugs all...{{{{{{{{{{{}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

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dandycandyjellybean · 03/04/2007 21:33

bumpety bump you drinky guys you.....????? anyone?????

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dandycandyjellybean · 04/04/2007 21:56

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hellobello · 05/04/2007 11:35

Hello Cubby! Hello all! Well... It's been a long time coming, but I've been noticing recently that I CAN'T drink and expect to sleep. It's not happening, so if I drink a bottle of wine, I will wake up at midnight, 2am, 4am and then finally at 6am for the start of the day. The only solution to this is not to drink, and I'm a bit concerned that I seem to force ANYTHING down my throat - too much food, too many nicotine pills, too much booze... There we go - I can binge on a 1mg nicotine pill, a unit of alcohol, a Smartie, for goodness sake! What's this all about? If one unit of alcohol has the same effect as 20 in terms of overdoing it, I don't really understand. On the other hand, I am drinking far less than would be considered a binge. Sorry so muddled.

dandycandyjellybean · 05/04/2007 21:07

hi, still can't say much as am still feeling utterly crap....how LONG does this feckin' virus last??????? but hi to all and keep bumping to keep us current. will post more when can.

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hidesitinthecupboard · 07/04/2007 10:21

Hi all, hope everyone is well and coping ok.

Hope you feel better soon Cubby! Hellobello, I find that if I don't drink I don't sleep. Think that is how I used to excuse myself for drinking every night. I now know that it is completely out of control and am in need of some help.

I had some routine blood tests a while ago, one of which was liver function, and it was fine. Which REALLY surprised me!

So, am just popping out to buy the book mentioned earlier in the thread.

We went out last night for a few beers with some friends, but I still drank what I normally drink at home (a bottle of wine and two cans of lager) before we went. Can't remember anything about when I got home. Woke with a terrible feeling of dread that me and DP had argued, but he has been fine with me so maybe we didnt? Can't even remember going to bed or if he came to bed at the same time as me or anything????? Terrible isn't it!

Don't feel too bad this morning, threw up earlier but think that is cause I had a Lemsip. Knew I was coming down with something cause throat started hurting yesterday, is really bad today and I ache all over and have a really stiff neck!

Anyway, I shall stop babbling now. Hope to see some posts on here soon! Take care everyone

hidesitinthecupboard · 16/04/2007 20:09

bump

hellobello · 18/04/2007 15:25

Hello... I hope everyone's ok. Now the sun is shining a bit and the nights are longer, it seems so easy to just sit in the garden getting pissed. It's such a lovely idea, and reminds me of when I was younger and it was fun. Last night we drank far too much as a friend came round who I haven't seen for ages, and I woke up with a headache - the same one I have anyway, so I guess it didn't make much difference there then. Dd #1 has empitigo so can't go to nursery tomorrow. She also has a bug that she's sharing with the rest of us. Dh is bunking off a course (again), so I'm pretty cross with him about that. NO MORE BEER!! NO MORE WINE!! I've never had a liver function test. Perhaps I should. How really scary.

dandycandyjellybean · 27/04/2007 20:59

well, well, well! where are we all then? I have finally shaken off horrible bug, and am feeling better. After much thinking, soul searching and researching, I have finally decided that as from 1st May, i shall only ever be drinking wine, as I have a real problem with spirits. Did read the Alan Carr book, and had to agree with 95% of it, but just couldn't go that total mile. But heyho, you never know. Kokeshi, how are you? Didn't know if you guys knew but from another thread I gather that Kokeshi has had her cochlear implant operation. Haven't heard how it's gone, but I guess we're all rooting for her?!!!

And what about everyone else? Hope you still try and check in occasionally with this thread, I really miss you guys when you don't post. Hope you're all doing okay. This lovely sunny weather doesn't help does it, there are just too many connections between lovely alcohol consumption and sunshine!!!

Love to you all anyway, hope you come back soon. {{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

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hellobello · 30/04/2007 17:36

Hi there Cubby! We've just been away camping for the 1st time together! 6 of us (inc dogs) cramming into a campervan! It's hard to get pissed when there is so much to do all the time. I tried, and although I drank quite a lot, masses of wine was spilled and generally knocked about rather than down.