Aspartame Poisoning

[Guitarman]

Hello all you Ladies,

I've been actively campaigning against the use of this chemical in the food chain for over ten years. Most of you will know how nasty it is, some of you will think it is "the only thing I can have because I'm on a diet".

I urge everyone to avod it at all costs! It is linked with Breast Cancer, Ovarian Cysts, Brain Tumours, Behaviourtal Problems, Birth Defects, Asthma, Eczema, Depression and a whole host of other problems. The list is supplied by the manufacturer not me!

I recently reminded my local MP about an 'Early Day Motion', he has now put his name to it. Please have a read of it. and also please take a look at Dr. Janet Hulls web site \link {http://www.sweetpoison.com} and read how she saved herself from having a Hysterectomy by stopping drinking Diet Croak.


Aspartame (E951) is the ONLY food additive with a health warning.

[MegaLegs]

The rocks cordials are lovely. My boys like the blackcurrant but my favourite is the orange. It tastes like the orange squash I remember as a child.

Clumsymum - I noticed that the boots omega fish oil supplemet contained aspartame and also hydrogenated veg oil too - bonkers !!

[HumphreyComfrey]

Rock cordials are lovely.

The Fentimans soft drinks are also yum - ginger beer, victorian style home-made lemonade, and natural cola.

Fentimans are expensive, but given as a nice occasional treat in our house.

[Guitarman]

Alex8, I am sorry if you thought I was being Patronising. I was not.

A very close friend of mine (Keyboards) is Diabetic. He was forever pouring toxic sludge down his neck. When I suggested he stop, I always got back "That's all I can drink." Why? I haven't had any for 20 years, so why is he only able to drink that?
He now has other drinks at gigs, isn't injecting as much insulin, his sugar levels are stable and he has LOST weight.

TwigTwoolet, the web sites that state good about this toxin are funded by the manufacturers, do not believe them. No one is immune to chemical poisoning.

[TwigTwoolett]

Guitarman .. the websites I quoted are medical wesbites which publish clinical research

yes I am not naive enough to not get how much research is funded by drug / manufacturing companies

but I am also not a scaremonger

I hate threads like this, and conspiracy theory attitudes .. all of the propaganda none of the research to back it up

I take research very seriously .. and issues very seriously

I am not saying there isn't an issue for certain groups .. and think the risk should be assessed on an individual basis based on personal factors ... and a close eye kept on all the research

[TwigTwoolett]

with a chemically produced food ingredient such as aspartame it is extremely simple to do double blind clinical trials

I would be interested in seeing more clinical trials with a negative outcome .. I have already found one that had to be abandoned due to the extent of the reaction within the target group which was quite an indcitment

can you direct me to any more guitarman?

[NotQuiteCockney]

The anti-asparatame sites seem to be largely run by conspiracy nutters or alternative medicine nutters. I find both sides really dubious tbh.

I do generally avoid aspartame, as it's a processed food, and I avoid processed foods in general. But that doesn't mean I think it's actually poison, any more than any other processed food.

[Guitarman]

www.dldewey. com
aspartamekills.com/
www.321recipes.com/aspartame.html
aspartame.ca/

And a whole worldwide network of first hand experience:

health.groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartame/

You may also like to find out about Dr. Betty Martini, she is very clued up on Aspartame poisoning.

www.rense.com/general67/rum.htm

Anyway, enough from me - work to do.

[Katymac]

I'm not sure about all the hype either for or against artificial sweetners

However - If I eat even the tiniest bit (ie licking the calpol spoon) then I end up with terrible stomach cramps and IBS attack

If I (BY MISTAKE) eat it in bread or soup or even chocolate I get reallly really ill - for up to 3 or 4 days

So I don't eat it or allow it in the house

It's not worth it (btw I just found it in the most fab crisps - I had been eating them & ended up rolling the floor in agony...I checked the contents of my bin & found the crisp packet with the dreaded sweetner in - never again & they are so lovely)

[NotQuiteCockney]

Aspartame Kills' front page compares the head of the FDA to Hitler. Yes, that's an entirely reasonable website. And draws a hitleresque mustache on the head of Nutrasweet.

DLDewey's site claims that Nasa is covering up proof of life on Mars, under pressure from the Religious Right.

Are there anti-aspartame sites that aren't part of the tinfoil hat brigade?

[NotQuiteCockney]

Ah, katymac, I have IBS, but have never reacted to aspartame in any way. I just avoid it like I'd avoid colouring etc etc, just on general principle.

[Guitarman]

Yes, try: www.sweetpoison.com

Dr Janet Hull, read how she was diagnosed with some disease and was to have a Hysterectomy to 'cure' her of it.

A friend told her to stop drinking Aspartame, she got better.

A site written by a woman for women to read. Perhaps you will take notice of her, I do.

[TwigTwoolett]

I'm sorry I don't have the time to go through sites searching for the clinical trials

can you direct me to the clinical trials please

[NotQuiteCockney]

Hmm, a lovely lady who runs a hair analysis program on the side. AKA a cardinal sign of quackery (\link{http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/hair.html\cite).

[NotQuiteCockney]

Whoops - here is cite for quackery of hair analysis.

[NotQuiteCockney]

Twiglett, the Cancer Research bods refer to the current state of research here , in what seems like a pretty balanced page.

When I searched for "clinical trials" and "aspartame", the first link that came up was bloody mercola, King Quack of the Quacks.

[NotQuiteCockney]

Oh, and thank you, Twiglett, for joining the fray here ... I kept wanting to post "I don't actually generally ingest aspartame, but this rubbish makes me want to go buy splenda and eat it plain ...".

[NotQuiteCockney]

Oh, and here is a more "official" anti-hair-analysis article. Relevant quote, from the recommendations:

Do not use hair analysis for individual nutritional assessment. The state of the science does not support this application.

[FillyjonkthePumpkinEater]

oh its the phenylalalalaalalinmine thats means aspartmame needs a heath warning, btw.

[flack]

I'm so glad you spoke up, Twiglett. If people want to avoid aspartame that's fine, but don't go pretending that it's been irrefutably proven dangerous. The research evidence of danger is slight at best. Anyway, even water is dangerous if you consume too much of it.

If you ask me, the only incontrovertable reason to avoid aspartame is because it's owned by Monsanto.

But for obese people, artificial sweeteners really can help lose weight, and they don't cause tooth decay (which means reductions in chances of heart disease, too). Everything in moderation, eh?

Suggest people read on Wikipedia about

Trans fats (can occur naturally, but apparently worst in PARTIALLY hydrogenated fats)

and

aspartame, controversy .

[Guitarman]

So a lot of people are against it, a lot are for it. Good, that way thee is a balanced debate.

Just one thought though, The FDA were paid to approve it back in '81 yet the same FDA had to supply a list of the 92 side effects associated with it.

92 side effects list is available from any search engine. All I did here was search FDA 92 Symptoms.

uk.search.yahoo.com/search?p=FDA+92+Symptoms&ei=utf-8&fr=cb-max

I know a lot of people think it is safe and a lot do not and a lot don't even know what it is. I have seen first hand what it can do so experience is always the better judge.

Take care, read labels and think of your kids health.

[TwigTwoolett]

not even one clinical trial??

just an itty bitty one??

ah g'wan

if it concerns you this much you much have access to the research papers and not just a series of debatable websites

anecdotal evidence is all very well where it can't be checked out .. but honestly aspartame is easily tested in scientifically robust clinical trials (I found one that had to be disbanded due to severe effects on those with unipolar mood disorders so am willing to believe there is a case to answer in some situations)

but really would appreciate links to others

[scarysuejonez]

Twiggy, can I join your posse? My mum and brother and father all have diabetes definitely NOT caused by aspartame.

Personally don't like the stuff much for the same reason someone else said, I just try to have as healthy a diet as possible and avoid artificial additives.

however I find diet coke a lifesaver on my diet, though limit myself to max one can a day. I have none of the symptoms mentioned on any of the weblinks mentioned earlier. I would be very interested in seeing a clinical trial from a source I respect, as I'm not so close minded as to think that everything I eat or drink is healthy in the long run.

Someone said aspartame hasn't been around long enough to assess long term risks but hasn't it been around about 25 years in America? Given the amount of diet coke that most Americans seem to consume (have you seen the size of the largest available serving of coke from McD's in the US!), wouldn't there be an obvious and very visible explosion of cancers etc by now. Or has there been and I'm just not aware of it?

[JoolsToo]

bottom line can I still keep using my Splenda?

thank you

[Piffle]

I think lab tests on rats has shown that aspartame converts to formaldehyde.
Also aspartame contains methanol...
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While the manufacturer is quick to say its but a small amount of methanol, 10% by weight, experts know in molecular chemistry its one molecule of aspartic acid (an excitotoxin) to one molecule of methanol (a neurotoxin) to one molecule of phenylalanine (a neurotoxin). That's 33% free methyl alcohol. No wonder the FDA refuses to answer any questions about it.

I think debate is good, I err on the side fo caution, giving it a wide berth, making sure I tlel my kids why I avoid it and advising them to do teh same.

[taMummy]

Twiglett and NQC I love you I have read quite a few primary peer-reviewed research papers that were not funded by aspartame manfacturers and there is little to no evidence for all this scare mongering. By all means avoid it, I tend to because I don't like the taste, but please don't believe all these websites with a hidden agenda.