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Aspartame Poisoning

114 replies

Guitarman · 20/10/2006 10:10

Hello all you Ladies,

I've been actively campaigning against the use of this chemical in the food chain for over ten years. Most of you will know how nasty it is, some of you will think it is "the only thing I can have because I'm on a diet".

I urge everyone to avod it at all costs! It is linked with Breast Cancer, Ovarian Cysts, Brain Tumours, Behaviourtal Problems, Birth Defects, Asthma, Eczema, Depression and a whole host of other problems. The list is supplied by the manufacturer not me!

I recently reminded my local MP about an 'Early Day Motion', he has now put his name to it. Please have a read of it. and also please take a look at Dr. Janet Hulls web site \link {http://www.sweetpoison.com} and read how she saved herself from having a Hysterectomy by stopping drinking Diet Croak.

Aspartame (E951) is the ONLY food additive with a health warning.

OP posts:
littleducks · 23/10/2006 10:08

where can you get calpol with sugar from? i ended up using sugar free as i couldn't find it and feel really guilty now.

Furball · 23/10/2006 10:16

I get mine from boots - they assume you want sugar free so they mumble something whilst sticking the bottle in front of you. Just say you want the one that isn't suagr free and they give you a funny look and change it! Quite bizarre to think they are behind the pharmacy counter so should in theory know a little better.

howlidaymum · 23/10/2006 10:23

LisaLisa, Trans fats are found in hydrogented fats. Its the transfat that makes hydrogenated fat bad iyswim! Very very bad stuff does the opposite of omega 3 and 6 to the brain plus bad for the heart.

Also Tesco have started to do a nice premium lemonade with 3% sicilean lemon juice and no aspartame!

multitasker · 23/10/2006 10:33

Guitarman your links haven't come up right, please do try again as I am totally uneducated on this subject and would like to know more. I'm off to check the cupboards.

littleducks · 23/10/2006 11:15

will try local boots then but it wasnt on display and after asking in tesco (where they clearly thought i had lost the plot) i didnt feel like queing up to ask!

snowleopard · 23/10/2006 11:33

So with you on this and glad there is a campaign, thanks guitarman.

I avoid aspartame and other artificial sweeteners as much as I can and it's not difficut - for drinks, DS has water, water with fresh pure juice eg apple juice, or squash such as bottlegreen elderflower or pear juice concentrate (from health food shop). I check labels and a lot of manufacturers, eg birdseye, are very good now about minimising the crap.

I totally agree the real tragedy is that so many parents are brainwashed into thinking "sugar is evil - must get sugar-free" and the way "sugar-free" is flashed up on labels as if it's an advantage. It's so ridiculous with medicine - they are going to have one teaspoon, so what if there's sugar in it? I think this whole issue, as well as the evils of aspartame, needs addressing. It would be great if one of the journos on MN could pitch it as a big story.

Dottydot · 23/10/2006 11:40

I agree that natural products are much the better way to go - I'd choose sugar over sweetners and butter over margarine every time.

But I started trying to lose weight 12 weeks ago and one of the main things I've done is switch my 2 sugars in coffee for 1.5 sweetners. And I have 1 can of diet coke a day. These things have been a life saver for me - means I can keep up my liquids (yes, I also drink water as well, but it's not the same!) but reduce my calorie intake. I'm currently 23lbs lighter and feeling great.

So I'm hoping the benefits of losing weight outweigh the evils of aspartame. Can anyone tell me if there's a recommended maximum daily aspartame intake? Going back to sugar to me would feel like such a retrograde step for me.

mummisery · 23/10/2006 12:12

read about aspartame and symptoms here

Furball · 23/10/2006 12:13

Dottydot - I did similar - I used to have 2 sweetners in tea/coffee due to dieting. I then read threads like this and it made me think. About a year ago I decided to give them up, OK admittedly the first week or so of drinking yucky hot drinks without sweetners was not that enjoyable but you do get used to it and t wasn't long before I slurped a drink of someones coffe with only one sugar in and yuck horrible. It's amazing how you can train your taste buds.

disemboweledbint · 23/10/2006 12:20

when people plop a sweetener in their drink and it does that fizzing thing it always makes me think of their brain fizzing with aspartame poisoning.

MrsBeDreadingTrickOrTreat · 23/10/2006 12:25

omg I think I'm going to throw all my sweetner stuff in the bin right now and start weaning myself of diet coke! And that's going to be tough as I can't stand normal coke. I actually get withdrawal symptoms if I don't drink coke is it the caffein or the sweetners?

clumsymum · 23/10/2006 13:18

I'm angry that boots and haliborange sell Omega 3 supplements which are flavoured with aspatame.

FGS we buy Omega 3 because we want to help our children improve their brain use and/or behaviour, but Aspartame can contribute to an exactly opposite effect. I read somewhere that the U.S. airforce doesn't allow pilots to consume aspartame, as it can badly affect concentration (don't know if that is true tho).

I have found a flavoured omega 3 capsule (from Healthspan) that doesn't contain aspartame or any other artificial sweetners, altho' they're currently out of stock, so I'm not the only one going down that route obviously.

TwigTwoolett · 23/10/2006 13:21

oh my what an OTT thread

TwigTwoolett · 23/10/2006 13:25

?Inspite of decades of scientific research attesting to the safety of aspartame, negative allegations about the safety of aspartame have appeared in the media and on the internet for a number of years. Some of the most common allegations and the scientific facts refuting them are as follows.

Allegation: The methanol in aspartame is toxic and is linked to numerous health problems including lupus and blindness, and also mimics multiple sclerosis

Not supported.

While methanol is a by-product of aspartame digestion, it is not foreign to the human diet. The pectin in many common foods including fruits and vegetables and their juices contains low levels of methanol and substances that are metabolised to methanol. A cup of tomato juice would provide about six times more methanol than a cup of aspartame-containing soft drink. Dietary methanol, whether it comes from aspartame or common foods, is present at levels too low to cause any health problems. It does not accumulate in the body but is metabolised through normal metabolic pathways to formaldehyde, then to formic acid and finally to water and carbon dioxide.

As the Multiple Sclerosis Society of Canada has stated in a Medical Update Memo available on its website at www.mssociety.ca/en/research/PC990122.htm, there has been no published peer-reviewed research supporting a link between aspartame and multiple sclerosis and no evidence of an MS "epidemic" exists.

Allegation: Aspartame is especially dangerous for diabetics
Not supported.

When the evaluation of the safety of aspartame was conducted by Health Canada, possible susceptible populations, including diabetics, were taken into consideration. Studies before and after approval of aspartame have shown that it can be used safely by people with diabetes.

A review of the available studies on aspartame and glycemic control is available in a recent publication (The Clinical Evaluation of a Food Additive: Assessment of Aspartame. 1996. Edited by C. Tschanz et al. CRC Press). The conclusion of the authors was that in five well-conducted studies, the addition of aspartame to the diabetic diet in single doses or for prolonged periods of time did not affect control of blood sugar levels. In addition, there were no effects on parameters indicative of insulin counter-regulation.

Allegation: Aspartame causes cancer and brain tumours
Not supported.

Scientists in the world-wide scientific community, including Canadian scientists, have found no link between aspartame consumption and the incidence of cancer or brain tumours from a study of the safety studies performed with aspartame.

Allegation: Aspartame causes seizures
Not supported.

Clinical studies conducted by medical researchers have shown that there is no link between aspartame consumption and seizures. One study was conducted on children and adults claiming to have experienced aspartame-induced seizures. On some days they were given a placebo and on other days they were given a large single dose of aspartame. Monitoring by EEG of their brain signals demonstrated that aspartame was no more likely to cause seizures than a placebo. Another study on children with a medical history of seizures showed that aspartame did not induce or worsen seizures in these seizure-prone subjects.

Allegation: Aspartame causes allergic reactions
Not supported."

However I have found a clinical trial on pubmed which was disbanded due to severity of adverse effects on people with mood disorders (unipolar)

alex8 · 23/10/2006 15:23

guitarman thanks for the patronising post.

snowleopard · 23/10/2006 16:05

Guitarman may have used some not particularly MN-friendly terms, but that doesn't mean this isn't a valid issue. Artificial colours, preservatives, etc. are generally known to be less than brilliant for you and there has been consistent scientific worry over aspartame for some time. Some studies have found links with ill-health, some haven't - but that was true of thalidomide to start with. I think we should be wary of aspartame and other sweeteners. I have known since childhood that they aggravate my eczema, for example - that's maybe a minor health issue but it could be significant.

And while it could be considered patronizing, the idea that many women limit themselves to diet/low-fat/sugar-free foods in an attempt to lose weight is definitely true.

twickersmum · 23/10/2006 18:03

here, here.
at the risk of sounding like a health food nutter (which i am not) there is plenty of scientific evidence on topics to suggest that everything is "fine" and then years later we find out that actually it isn't.
and there is lots of evidence to show that aspartame isn't exactly good for you.... back to the full on sugar and not chemicals for my family anyway.

alex8 · 23/10/2006 18:08

His tone was rude and patronising as I never actually disputed that asparteme was not a good thing I mentioned diabetes nothing to do with losing weight. The link he posted was however laughable. As was the suggestion that it causes diabetes and that you can research it all on the net; not taking into account all the rubbish on the net.

HumphreyComfrey · 23/10/2006 18:09

I am concerned that aspartame causes problems that may take years to surface.

It hasn't been around long enough for anyone to know what might happen after prolonged exposure.

That's not a risk I'm prepared to take with my family's health.

Piffle · 23/10/2006 18:22

I've never trusted sweeteners since the "saccharin causes cancer in rats " scare in the 70's - 80's
Swiftly renamed into brand names like lite n low candarel and nutrasweet etc etc to avoid negative association with generic names.

BloodyTenaLady · 23/10/2006 19:38

Ooh I didnt think Guitarman was being patronising, I must of missed something there.

Listen, if you want information then take it on the chin from whereever and whilst its good to get a perspective from everyone who wants to post, its not good manners to tell someone that they are patronising particularly as this is a thread that I and many others have found interesting. There are a lot of mn who are not necessarily in possesion of the full facts regarding these items.

I for one dip in and out of these issues and choose what I want to address at the time. Beats threads on who's got the biggest boobs anyday.

Somebody mentioned pessaries instead of calpol, what are these pessaries called and where can you get them, I have heard they are much better.

alex8 · 23/10/2006 19:52

oh well you must have a different interpretation of the word then or haven't read my post and the response. I complained about the reponse to my post only, stuff like "read the labels" and "strewth if only you'd do some research" when I didn't actually disagree with his main premis. And I didn't acutally ask for information. I'll bow out now as as bored of people not reading things thoroughly.

BloodyTenaLady · 23/10/2006 20:00

Sorry Alex, I thought it was directed to all of us to read the labels and use the internet for research. I do this to a degree but not as much as I ought to so I was inwardly nodding at his remarks.

caffeinequeen · 23/10/2006 20:19

BloodyTenaLady think you mean suppositories for LOs which I'm sure your pharmacist could help with.

drosophila · 23/10/2006 20:27

Humphry, what does rock taste like. I gave up Diet Coke when pg and now I struggle to drink anythng. I only have sparkling or still water and increasing cups of coffee ( I never used to drink tea or coffee)so I am always on the look out for a reasonably healthy drink. I used to love Waitrose's grapefruit cordial but DD got dreadful nappy rash when I drank it.

I am at risk of dehydration now as I find what I drink so boring it's an effort to drink anything.

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