72 babies died within 20 days of receiving GSK Infanrix hexa Vaccine

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72 babies died within 20 days of receiving GSK Infanrix hexa Vaccine.
They reported that the deaths of these children were due to Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS) and Sudden Unexpected Death Syndrome (SUDS) unrelated vaccination. WHAT??? What cant

Infanrix hexa combines vaccines against 6 diseases [namely Diptheria, Tetanus and Acelluar Pertusis (whooping cough), Hepatitis B, inactivated Poliomyelitis and Haemophilus influenza type B] in a single vaccine.

Why arent we informed of problems

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sorry got cut off

then this a disease can have serious consequences.

Citing the common cold doesn't alter the point I am making, but is useful.

Some of us in my family went down with a nasty cold over Christmas. Only one needed to go to the doctor, which fact could presumably could go onto some return made by the surgery. Please tell me from that, how many others in the family also caught the cold?

If mumps was a notifiable disease in the USA since 1968 - which I believe was before a vaccine was available - then isn't it possible that at least some of the statistics around death / complication rates could be based on USA data and could therefore give a valid basis for pre and post vaccination comparisons?

(Disclaimer: I haven't actually looked at any of the research to see if this is the case or not.)

If you read my post above there a references to research prior to mumps being notifiable. Why do assume they knew nothing about the sequelea of mumps because it wasnt notifiable.

Someone upthread mentions that because she has autism and her son has autism it couldn't connected with vaccines. That doesn't follow

The reasons behind the huge rise in autism over the last thirty years have not been discovered. There seems to be genetic factor in autism, but there also seems to be a recent environmental factor.

Someone also said it is better to risk your child being autistic than their death. What a horrible choice! I must admit one of my worst fears when my dd was small was of how I would cope if she was brain-damaged in an accident. Suddenly the personality that one loves madly is gone and there is another one. It would still be like a death to me.

Or, Coyoacan, the huge rise in autism has resulted from a huge increase in understanding and diagnosis of the disease. Just reading threads on here makes it abundantly clear that a great many adults now suspect that they are on the spectrum, but diagnosis simply wasn't available when they were younger.

'Someone also said it is better to risk your child being autistic than their death. What a horrible choice!'

Gee thanks, mine and dd's existence is only slightly preferable than death

My parents got drawn in to the 'mmr causes autism' so they paid for me to have the separate jabs.

DD had the mmr.

Neither caused autism. In my dd's case the signs were already there, as the vaccine was delayed and given after the time signs usually start to show. Which incidentally is usually not long after people have had the vaccine.

I would say the huge rise in autism is more down to the fact that it is being picked up a lot more than. Those in the more severe end of the autistic spectrum just got had their symptoms put down to whatever it was they were labelled. Many children/ adults ( mostly female) with hf autism/ aspergers went undiagnosed.

Hence the sharp rise in adults in their 20's to 50's being diagnosed now.

Argh typo hell.

Was slightly

Let me use small sentences here to everyone understands.

Vaccine damage occurs. But the damage does NOT take the form of autism. One of the BIGGEST CLINICAL STUDIES EVER of ONE MILLION CHILDREN was conducted to find out about the link between vaccines and autism. It concluded that there IS NO LINK.

So while there are risks to vaccination, most vaccines are not reported to have any severe side effects. Some vaccines have had severe reactions reported which include:
Death due to allergic reaction
Paralysis
Deafness
Long-term seizures, coma, lowered consciousness
Permanent brain damage

NOT AUTISM!

However, if you read the CDC website it states that in most cases these extreme reactions are so rare that it is difficult to be sure if these side effects are actually due to the vaccine or not.

Unfortunately, real facts and statistics on actual vaccine damage are incredibly hard to find amongst all the anti-vax quackery bullshit that is so depressingly liberally spread across the internet.

It's so fucking depressing that even though as far as the scientific and medical world is concerned the whole autism/vaccine scare has been thoroughly put to bed, the dangerous myth persists and is still talked about (as evidenced by this thread) as if it were a real thing.

Why do assume they knew nothing about the sequelea of mumps because it wasnt notifiable.

I have not said that, so why make the assumption that I did?

All I said was that they didn't collect the data so they had no idea of how many people caught mumps. In the same way that you can have no idea of how many people in my family went down with colds over Christmas because no one recorded it.

Thank god for you annie, I was losing faith in humanity.

I'm fairly sure now that those most worried about vaccines causing autism know absolutely sod all about it.

It's not something that takes over the personality of a baby you love like a lightning bolt.

You are born with autism, it is who you are. It's not something you catch/ mutate in to.

they estimate between 18 232 834 and 72 931 338 infants

This made me how can you have an estimate with a range of more than 54 million and the boundaries such a precise number?

Because units sold doesn't necessarily translate directly into units administered, TooHasty.

And I'm sure the number wasn't intended to be "precise", but is a range generated by a program/model/algorithm which hasn't been rounded off.

This made me hmm how can you have an estimate with a range of more than 54 million and the boundaries such a precise number?

A bit like the kid saying that the dinosaurs became extinct 65 million years and three months ago! Why? Well, he read about it 3 months ago and it was 65 million years then.

Sliced, regressive autism is exactly like that I am afraid.

Your lightning bolt analogy I mean.

Someone also said it is better to risk your child being autistic than their death. What a horrible choice

I wasn't referring to people who are born one way or another, Sliced I was talking about a child's personality changing and I said that very explicitly, actually.

redspottydress Sorry I did think that just after I posted. It was aimed at the thought that the choice was vaccine+autism or no vaccine+death. What I meant to say is it isn't like that for everyone with autism.

I was in a bit of a rage at a previous post and not thinking very clearly.

I didn't think that autism was one disease. I have a fairly distant cousin with it - it seems more like a label rather than anything else. 30 years ago he might have been labelled as 'brain damaged'. Was he born with it? No idea - he seemed normal enough as a baby, but it was gradually noticed that he was a bit slow reaching milestones, which became worse and worse.

The only good thing about this label is that it does allow his parents to access extra support, but even that's a hard slog.

I didn't think that autism was one disease

More a collection of a wide range of symptoms.

Yes I'm 28 and dd is 23 months old.

Just checked with my parents, I was 5/6 when they gave me the separate mmr vaccine.

Mum said she hadn't heard of Wakefield, but there was a lot of talk going round about children having behavioural difficulties following/caused by the mmr vaccine.

My dad's always been a bit of a nut for conspiracy theories. Mums blaming it on him