DS HAS MEASLES

[hermykne]

, DD DOESNT can she have friends to play if he's in bed?

it all depends where you're coming from i guess.

i believe that vaccinating puts a child's health in jeopardy long term.

but this is not the place for that particular debate which i know well always ends in tears with no one changing their minds.

Hope you will be so happy with your decision not to vacinate if your son ends up in hospital after contracting measles. Vacinations are there for a reason.

gosh you're lovely aren't you ills?

i'm sorry to the rest of you that i opened up this debate on here, like i say it's not the place and i shouldn't have posted without thinking like that.

Tell other parents your DS has measles. Hey, you never know, you might be hosting measles party for non-vaccinators in your area.

Please, this discussion never ends well. The OP was asking for specific advice for a particular situation.

We don't know if she vaccinates or not, and tbh I don't think it has any ipact on her current situation anyway.

Arging over vaccination isn't going to help her either way.

Thanks sophable I am lovely. Thanks very much

I agree won't help original poster. Hope ds is better soon. Only asking if they were vacinated out of interest

Well it was worth discussing I thought. And I was discussing it was Sophable, we were not being obnoxious.. just exchanging views. I know it wasn't the original topic, but conversations evolve

i know creepy. but martianbishop is right....it always ends up a bit of a nightmare and this isn't the place.

also i'm hungover today so have neither the energy nor the emotional stamina!!!

Hello again. Just got back from the shops.

Measles is a notifiable disease, so you are obliged to let your gp know - ds will have to be carefully nursed and monitored for any signs of complications - you will have to follow whatever rules there are for quarantine GP will tell you.

Also, there are regulations about things like borrowing library books etc I think - can't remember it all off the top of my head.

I don't even want to get into the immunization debate.BUT - you need to protect other vulnerable groups from catching this disease.

I do hope your ds will make a swift recovery. Nurse in a quiet darkened room, protect his eyes - we always used to advise no reading, to reduce eyestrain. Plenty of fluids.

I've heard you can be innoculated against hangovers in the US....

whats happened here....

yes both have had mmr, shes 4 and hes 2.

going to read this now in detail

Ills what an ignorant and rude person you can be.

My son is Autistic and as such difficulties can be geneticly linked i am warey fo the MMR jab. i have also done research.....hours after hour of it. i have spoken to many many health proffessionals about it and make my decisions as informed ones.

My children will have the MMR late. if my DD is already pre disposed to such difficulties i would haet to think that by my giving her the jabs it had casued somethig which could have stayed dormant to awaken and casue her to have ASD.

I would never go up to someone who is pro vacc and say "ooh i hope you wont mind if your child gets autism" how vile can you be to say the same to someone who doesn't feel comfortable with the risks.

i agree that this is not the OP original question but i have found Ills posts incredibly offensive

hermykne
I am shocked they have got measles after having the MMR hope it is only mild case and the rest of you don't get it.

just shows that even VAccinations cannot offer full protection, maybe your views on how stupid and irresponsoible non vaccinators are hey ills.

Don't bust a gasket Hermykne, lest you be about to.. ..I merely asked if your DD had had it. Bloody bad lubck that she's caught it anyway.. and not great for my pro vaccination debate either..!

(Although chances are she caught it off an unvaccinated child...)

BATtymumma
Perhaps you would like to know why I feel so strongly about this but there again I have got better things to do then go through the upset of remembering such a traumatic time.

I was vaccinated against measles when I was a child (it was a single jab then), but also had measles a bit later. Had it very mildly though.

I would say check with other parents first, before inviting other children round.If the other parents are happy, then it shouldn't be a problem.

The trouble is these things mutate over time. Occasionally a child who has been immunised will get measles - perhaps because their immune response to the vaccine wasn't as good as it should have been. Thankfully, though, they usually end up with a milder attack, and recover well.
In the days when literally thousands of children died from whooping cough, diphtheria, measles etc, the perception of measles was probably different. Nowadays it is one of the remaining really nasty childhood diseases, and should be taken seriously.
We are not accustomed to looking after really poorly children at home nowadays, which is why I stressed the need for careful nursing.

creepyjess - "bust a gasket" whats that for , i said whats going on here because the thread has gotten very long for my original question. if anything i am worried about other kids.

anyway its ds who is 2 who has it, very very mild, and he is in completely normal form, as content as usual and not a bother on him. no temp or any thing other tha nthe spots.

dd is 4 and shows no signs.

he was probably contagious up to and during the spots appearance time maybe 10 days. he has them 4 days now.
hopefully her own immunity and mmr will prevent her from getting it.

i have spoken with my pharmacist and the owner of dd & ds 's pre school about it.
sharon is a pead iatric nurse and she says it fine by her to send esme to school next week and send fionn back when i think he is up to it.

whatever your reasons it is unfair to make such comments.

vaccination, as we can see, is not a failsafe and if others choose not to then that is their business.
to tel someone that they will be happy when there child contracts an illness that is possibly fatal is vile.

I havre a legally blind nephew becasue of meningitis,but i also have a freind who refuses the Men C vacc. its her decision and as an adult who ha researched that decision i have no right to make her feel guilty about it.
by all means question the research and offer more information but to just be rude is out of line

ills, please don't think I am being rude but reading your comments it sounds to me like you are quite ill-informed. There are very strong arguments on both sides of the debate, to debate your side is one thing but for you to make the comments that you have -I don't think you will be taken very seriously.

It is well worth having good points to back up your arguments, I, for one, will very much listen.

baty are u talking to me?

no to ills,

I didn't say happy when their child is ill off course they won't be. I said happy with their decision not to vacinate. I am well informed and was responding to the comment oh god, everyone had measles when we were kids which I felt wasn't taking the implications of measles seriously. Obviously a very touching subject. Everybody is entitled to there own opinion and do not want to debate it any further.