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vaccine yes or no??????

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123mon · 28/02/2013 12:53

Hi, i would like to know your opinions about vaccine please. I decide to dont let my 3 years old daughter have the vaccine and i was wondering if there are other mums that think the same as me

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luanmahi · 02/03/2013 13:24

But you believe things which are wrong and because of this you are putting your own and other people's children at risk. MMR does not cause autism. It never did. It was a health scare created by newspaper journalists with no scientific knowledge and one doctor who has since been widely discredited.

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123mon · 02/03/2013 13:31

i dont think that what i beleve is wrong.... and how can you be so sure about the autism and also beleve that im not putting other children at risk

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TheSmallPrint · 02/03/2013 13:47

Arrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggghhhhhhhhhh! Will you listen to yourself?? Thank god for the majority of sane, non conspiracy theory people in the world, who will keep your child safe when you won't.

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123mon · 02/03/2013 13:54

how come thats if is so dangerous not to vax the doctor or nurses dotnt ask you why and tell you the risks?

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Salbertina · 02/03/2013 14:01

Links to autism were totally and comprehensively disproven by medical experts based on conclusive evidence - its not a matter of a layman "knowing" or a matter of opinion. I'd rather trust a team of doctors than a bunch of quacks with half a brain and no medical degree

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123mon · 02/03/2013 14:06

i dont beleve that is true ans i also respect your beleve

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TheSmallPrint · 02/03/2013 14:09

Can you explain your theory as to why doctors and nurses - who presumably entered the medical profession to help people- are trying to hurt your child by giving them a vaccine which is going to harm them? Whats in it for them? Or are they all just under the hypnotic spell of an evil worldwide superpower that's trying to kill us all?

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123mon · 02/03/2013 14:16

yes they trying to kill us by poison us.... anyway i dont really have to explain anythink to anyboby as i stick on my beleves and also respect others, im not here to convince people

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Salbertina · 02/03/2013 14:25

Such an issue is one of science not belief.. If you are a medically qualified doctor or similar then fair enough, if not, trust those who are! They have the expertise and the clinical judgement.

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123mon · 02/03/2013 14:27

and they can easily tell you what they want

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Salbertina · 02/03/2013 14:33

Am speechless.. Waste of time debating at this level..

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123mon · 02/03/2013 14:35

theres soo much going on in this world that i am speechless too....

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Trazzletoes · 02/03/2013 14:38

123 but the people who you believe are presumably informing you from a fully qualified medical perspective with no benefit for themselves, yes?

Has it ever crossed your mind that Doctors might actually know what they're talking about? Jeez, I hope to God that you never find yourself in my position, terrified of the possibility of anyone sharing their child's germs with my DS in case it kills him. Having to rely on other parents at nursery to notify us if their child ever develops chickenpox ffs.

You don't even know how bloody lucky you are to be in a position to choose. And to place such little value on your child's life and future well-being.

Thank God the rest of us vaccinate so YOUR child is safe. Can we even have a thank you? I doubt it.

idiot55 · 02/03/2013 14:50

havnt read through but just having had measles and being very ill, I am so glad I got my kids vaccinated.

Awful awful disease.

I nearly died, possibly thanks to a parent not having vaccinated their child who passed it onto me.

measles was almost unheard of , now its on the increase becasue of selfish misinformed parents.
I hope no child has to suffer the way I did.

Pollykitten · 02/03/2013 15:53

The conspiracists might be interested to know that in France, there was/is an exactly parallel paranoia about the polio vaccine (not to mention the conspiracy in Pakistan that has the polio vaccine labelled as a Western plot to make the population infertile) as there is about the MMR jab in the UK. For everyone despairing of the ignorance on here, you might help to remember that since logic did not provide the basis for their beliefs in the first place, it's nigh on impossible to logic someone out of that belief. Still depressing though....

AvonCallingBarksdale · 02/03/2013 16:00

Someone did thank me once for vaccinating my DC. I worked with her and she was anti-vaccination. She was happy, though, that her DC would be safe due to people like me aiding herd immunity. I've never been closer to nearly putting my fist through something Smile

RememberingMyPFEs · 02/03/2013 16:07

I want to ask 123mon why on gods good earth s/he thinks the medical profession is trying to kill us all through poisoning us. I feel, however, it's unlikely to be a measured response leading to open dialogue and sane discussion of fact. I am, therefore, going to switch off MN (Shock) and watch Dexter instead.
I wish you all well and Trazzle - I hope you manage keep your DS safe and are fortunate to be surrounded by people who do vaccinate x

Heavywheezing · 02/03/2013 16:31

Doomed doomed, we are all doomed....

What is the point of asking opinions when you have made up your own mind?

breatheslowly · 02/03/2013 16:34

You keep on mentioning "belief". Belief should be about things like God, fairies and Father Christmas. Vaccination is about evidence based medicine, not really a matter of belief. There is no requirement for everyone to respect each other's beliefs. I am sure that you know plenty of people who know more than you, but that doesn't make them experts in vaccination. The experts in vaccination, whether epidemiologists or immunologists, seem to agree that vaccination is a good thing.

Trazzletoes · 02/03/2013 16:42

Aye, but they're just in it for the money, aren't they breathe?

Trazzletoes · 02/03/2013 16:48

Just out of interest, OP, you said you had your youngest child given the first dose of MMR because you didn't know about the possible side effects etc etc.

Yet you believe your eldest child had side effects and is a full 10 years older.

Once again you are completely inconsistent.

breatheslowly · 02/03/2013 16:56

Sorry, my mistake Trazzletoes. Yes, yes they are all in it for the money and it is a giant conspiracy theory. I'm off to live in a third world country where they can't afford to vaccinate and it is normal for some of your children to die of preventable diseases, but at least the medical professionals can't reach you there.

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123mon · 02/03/2013 17:13

as i sayd (again) its not up to me to tell you what i know and tell people what to do.... so good luck to all

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TheSmallPrint · 02/03/2013 20:27

Remembering I did pose that question just up there^ but the OP ignored it. I think maybe it's time to ignore.

Trazzletoes · 02/03/2013 20:50

I agree, but I just can't hide the thread!

OP, please answer our questions?

How did you not know about potential side effects when you claim your elder child had side effects?

Where is your proof that autism is a potential side effect?

Why do you think Drs are trying to hurt your family? What benefit could they possibly get from that?

All the other questions people have asked...

(Thank you Remembering I appreciate it)

If you have access to all this amazing knowledge, why wouldn't you share it?