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Pt 7 (Feb13) Any old prolapse! Uterus/womb prolapse, rectocele, cystocele, enterocele, urethrocele, incontinence, pelvic floor, anterior and posterior repair, TVT etc

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WhoKnowsWhereTheTimeGoes · 20/02/2013 19:05

This is thread 7 (again - see below) of a long-running series of posts from ladies suffering from pelvic prolapses to support each other through the process of diagnosis, repair and recovery.

With apologies for confusion in thread numbers - the previous thread was called part 7 but it was actually the 6th thread.

Here are the previous threads:

Thread 1
Thread 2
Thread 3
Thread 4
Thread 5
Thread 6

Info from BBC Health

What is a pelvic prolapse?

As the muscles, ligaments and supporting tissues in the pelvis become weaker, they are less able to hold in the organs of the pelvis such as the womb (uterus) or bladder.

Gravity pulls these organs down and, in the more severe cases, may appear through the entrance to the vagina.

A variety of problems can occur, depending on where the weakness lies and which organs are able to descend, but in every case there is some degree of prolapse of the vaginal wall, which begins to invert (rather like a sock turning inside out).
Prolapse of the womb or uterus is the most common prolapse, affecting as many as one in eight older women to some degree
Prolapse of the bladder, known as a cystocele, is less common.
Prolapse of the urethra (the tube that carries urine out of the bladder) is known as a urethrocele.
Prolapse of the intestines is quite rare, and known as an enterocele or rectocele.

Symptoms

Symptoms depend on which tissues descend, and how severe the prolapse is.

They may include:
A sense of heaviness or pressure in the pelvis.
The appearance of a bulge of tissue in the genital area, which can be quite alarming, and is often red and sore.
Urinary problems, such as having to urinate more frequently, feeling the need urgently, being incontinent (losing control of the bladder) or, conversely, being unable to pass urine when you need to.
Pain in the pelvis or lower back.
Sexual problems, including pain and decreased libido.
Constipation.
Vaginal discharge or bleeding.

Treatment and recovery

Once a prolapse has developed, surgery to fix the affected organs is usually the only way to cure it effectively.

However, another option is to use a device known as a vaginal ring pessary. This is rather like a contraceptive diaphragm or cervical cap. It's made of silicone or latex, and placed in the vagina to push back the prolapsed organs and hold them in place. Many women happily manage their prolapse this way.

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kotinka · 22/06/2013 09:53

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Tr0ubled · 22/06/2013 13:40

badgerous I've never heard of prolapses effecting having children.
The only thing is that if you were to reach the point of surgery you would most probably be advised to wait until you had finished having children.

Edinburgh63 · 22/06/2013 15:03

Afternoon ladies.... Advise needed. 5 weeks post op, posterior repair.. Yesterday I went for a walk, little bit light shopping including a 2 later bottle of pop for my darling sons. I carried the bottle in my arms as my shopping bag was feeling heavy. Got half way back home when I felt like something had drop and I was going to wet myself. I stopped for a few mins and got myself back together. Today I have been brave and inserted one finger, into my vagina and I could feel a bulge.... Am I worrying needlessly or should I see my dr on Monday ?

Edinburgh63 · 22/06/2013 15:05

Forgot to mention just got back from a four day break in Center Parcs... Didn't cycle. But I did go down the first part of the rapids and I did try a jacuzzi one of the days but didn't stay in long. Hope I have undone all the work done on me

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NeopreneMermaid · 23/06/2013 17:04

Edinburgh good to hear you had a good time away but you are doing waaay too much! Can you get your groceries delivered? Changed my life. [saddo emoticon].

I'm home from hospital now and caning the laxatives. Having a few ishoos and worried might have to go back in but we'll see what the next dose of Laxido brings. The things I look forward to these days.

Edinburgh63 · 23/06/2013 21:32

Glad to hear you are home Neoprene, hopefully the Laxidos will help you! Fingers crossed.

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Badgerous · 24/06/2013 16:57

Going to the loo isn't a problem, I don't know how long I've had it, only noticed as AF had returned after 2 years! I called the surgery, talked to a different gp and have been referred to gynae physio; but not back to my gynae.

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Edinburgh63 · 24/06/2013 17:49

Hi kotinka... I have got a bad urine infection. Dr says I also have a very small prolapse at the front. So strong antibiotics. Had an internal which wasn't pleasant, but needed. She said my posterior repair was looking good.
So definitely taking it much easier as its only 6 weeks today since I had the op.
how are you managing with your own recovery? :-)

Edinburgh63 · 24/06/2013 17:50

How are you feeling today Neoprene?

WhoKnowsWhereTheTimeGoes · 24/06/2013 17:56

You probably picked that up in the jacuzzi Edinburgh Sad.

Glad the repair is OK, mine was very lumpy and bulgy till at least 3 months but it is much better now.

Badgerous - glad your second GP was more helpful, gynae physio is a good place to start.

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mrsclairet · 24/06/2013 18:31

Edinburgh glad you have got some antibiotics. I had to have a swab taken at the doctors on Friday so have got to phone tomorrow for the results. I think I might just have thrush though.
I have had a bit of a down day today. I am 4.5 weeks post op and am now on my own with my 2 boys. I am feeling a bit uncomfortable as I have had to do a bit more housework. I am also still having problems with my haemorrhoid. They said it needed to be cut out and I was hoping he would be able to do it at the same time as my other op but he didn't want to do it so now I am facing another operation! I just wish there wasn't anything wrong with me. My husband is doing a late so won't be home till half 8, I guess I am just feeling a bit sorry for myself.

WhoKnowsWhereTheTimeGoes · 24/06/2013 18:58

hands out Brew and Biscuits to all the recovering ladies.

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NeopreneMermaid · 24/06/2013 20:36

Gladly accepts Whoknows' tea and biscuits.

MrsC the days when there is nothing wrong with you are coming. Smile Christmas is my mental goal - I've also had my eyes laseked on the last two weeks and have a 3-6 month recovery from that too (I decided in for a penny, in for a pound).

Edinburgh that sounds time what happened to me but the other way around - I had an anterior repair and three weeks later discovered the bulge had been supporting a posterior prolapse (the one I've just had repaired).

I've been pretty sore today. I feel like something's not quite right and have been googling fecal impaction...Sad On the upside, I've avoided hospital since Saturday and long may that continue! Smile

WhoKnowsWhereTheTimeGoes · 24/06/2013 21:11

Edinburgh - I was diagnosed with a severe recotcele and moderate cystocele about a year ago and had the rectocele repaired in September. The surgeon would not operate on both together because of the likelihood of adhesions / tightness and said that the cystocele on its own would not warrant surgery. However he did warn me that without the rectocele to lean on the cystocele might worsen, so at my post-op check up I asked him to refer me to gynae physio for help managing the cystocele. I had my first appt at about 4 months post-op and my second two months after that, the exercises she prescribed had reduced the cystocele from grade 1-2 to 0-1, ie negligible and I have had no problems with it at all. However I know some posters on this thread have had to have a cystocele repaired following a rectocele repair. Just wanted to say that it isn't inevitable. I must of course maintain my exercise regime and avoid very haevy lifting etc though to keep things this way.

Neoprene - could I pick your brain about the Lasek? What made you decide to do it and how bad was your eye-sight before? I toy with it and if I ever had to stop wearing contact lenses I would seriously consider it but I am -10 so VERY short-sighted. What is the recovery like? PM me if you don't want to derail the thread. Thank you!

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Edinburgh63 · 24/06/2013 22:54

WKWTTG...... Dr said that is where I did probably pick it up from the jacuzzi. Just hope the antibiotics kick in fast, had two tablets so maybe tomorrow will be a better day!
mrsclairet..... Sorry to hear you have been a bit down today, how old are your boys? As you can make a game with the boys helping you round the house etc
Thanks to everyone giving me feedback about their ailments. Least I am not suffering on my own.
Xx

NeopreneMermaid · 24/06/2013 23:17

Whoknows I'll pm you so I don't hijack. Smile

MissDiscombobulated · 24/06/2013 23:19

Apologies if this has already been asked but couldn't read all the msgs already posted!
I'm due to have a tvt next month and was wondering if anyone who's had one has gone on to have another pregnancy and if so did this cause any further complications? I have one DS 20 months and thought I wouldn't have anymore, but now the op is looming I'm not 100% certain! I'm really keen to get the op done so I can run after my toddler and basically do all the things (dance, jump, sneeze etc) I could before the birth of my DS without leaking but am also thinking I might possibly like to try for another baby! What to do...

NeopreneMermaid · 24/06/2013 23:37

Hi Miss. Someone with tvt experience (I.e. not me!) will be along shortly but my understanding is that any of these surgeries are only recommended once you've completed your family as birth would just undo the work.

I guess you could explore elective CS or ask your doc hypothetically what would happen if you had an 'oops' baby.

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Edinburgh63 · 25/06/2013 11:20

Morning ladies... How are we all feeling today?:-)

Edinburgh63 · 25/06/2013 12:39

kotinka.... As you are near 8 weeks post op... What things have you started doing round the house? Also how long did your surgeon say you would be out of action. Mine told me 12 weeks but I do run a pub with my husband. God love him, along with our two sons, he is doing nearly everything.
I so feel for Mrsclairet who has limited or no help....

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