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MaryAnnSingleton · 19/02/2013 14:04

new thread - bring the trolley over here....

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Copthallresident · 28/03/2013 22:46

Have Reuben's Hot Cross Buns, will put some on trolley if you are nice to me < tries to be manipulative > Oh, can't be bothered, throws them on trolley!

gigs glad your nurse turned up, holidays are always shit for wobbles. Please lay out your wobbles for us over the holidays and we will sit on them,


Just went to Book Club at local Gothic pile, Wuthering Heights, as Jchoc knows we have been there done that. But when you feel better, might be something you'd enjoy? All ages, all types, brilliant!

mas I am getting the vibes that you have same stripy top obsession Smile

kk goondog sends Old lady dog reinvigorating vibes

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topsyturner · 28/03/2013 22:48

Mas you will look fab !
You is a skinny minny and could wear a school dinner lady tabard and look fab !!!

Gig smooches muchly
If you weren't wobbling I would think you were a weirdo !
I think you should have an Irish holiday soonish !
I have a collection of reprobates coming to stay on the 12th of April
All friends I met on the interweb over the past 10 years .
There's 10 coming for the weekend .
Any of you that care to join us are more than welcome .

Am very drunk tired and emotional now , off to sleep .
Laters Ladies xxx

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topsyturner · 28/03/2013 22:50

Cop

Yes please for all baked goods !

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graciesmall09 · 28/03/2013 22:58

Glad nurse phoned gigs and she managed to calm you and Mr Gigs. Wobbles are to be expected. I will happily take my turn on the box and trust me nothing is getting out with my weight.

mas your picture looked fab in the unit.

Night everyone xx

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MaryAnnSingleton · 28/03/2013 23:50

Night all..sleep well and thanks for being lovely...xxx

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KurriKurri · 28/03/2013 23:52

Night night MAS and everyone else Smile

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Gigondas · 28/03/2013 23:56

Night all- don't worry, your turns on paranoia box are working- cant sleep as had nap earlier.

Hope kk poorly pooch having a good night.

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PenPerson · 29/03/2013 06:50

Morning from me.

Hope the wobble passes gigs and my huge weight is now firmly on the box. You have a lot to process and a wobble or 2 is to be expected but we are here to help.

Bright sunshine here. Much needed and we will get out to he park today.

Yesterday was not a good day. I have something weird going on with my hands and the skin goes all strange and looks like it will split.
Sure it is due to the hypothyroid state and will resolve but I got all paranoid last night. My back is still aching too making me more worried. Sometimes I feel like I will never be normal again.

What are we all up to over Easter ? My dc are off with their grandparents for the day to tomorrow and we are painting the bedroom.

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amberlight · 29/03/2013 07:26

Topsy, I shall be there in spirit :-)
MAS you look fab. Never doubt it.
Morning all.
Breakfast goods on trolley.

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jchocchip · 29/03/2013 09:01

Morning all. Hands must be annoying, pen - hope your thyroid is balanced out soon.
I should go out for a walk today -will see how I feel when I get up... heavy period again, meds are kicking in but leaves me feeling washed out and wanting to stay close to home. Time for a Brew

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gingeroots · 29/03/2013 09:04

I feel like a gate crasher here ,but anyway - so I have adenocarcinoma at junction of gullet and stomach .

Plan is 3 cycles of 3 week chemo ,break followed by nasty major op break then more chemo .

Anyway ,question is regarding others experience /thoughts on going on the offered trial .

I don't have paper work to hand but basic chemo is ECX ( ? ) /Xeloda ? and the trial would add another drug bevacizumab /Avastin .

I know it's an individual choice ,but just wondered how people went about making such a decision .

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MaryAnnSingleton · 29/03/2013 09:15

thanks dear amber
Poor hands pen -sounds very unpleasant. Hope dcs have a lovely time.
How is old lady dog this morning kk ?
gingerroots you are very welcome. If it's any help I'm on 3 weekly cycles of Xeloda (Capecitabine) and finding it tolerable -the dosage needed juggling as it was too much for me side effects-wise at first- but now it is certainly doable -think I'm on cycle 8.
jane hope you are ok...think the tamoxifen is messing your periods up possibly ? Onc. said that the chemo might be interefering with mine which is why it's going on and on (just dribs and drabs now,but annoying after over 2 weeks)

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topsyturner · 29/03/2013 09:29

Morning All

Welcome Ginger , all types of bastarding cancer welcome here . We're not just for breast .
I'm no help with your q though as I only had straight forward FEC .



First day of the hols here . DC still in bed . DH , pig/dog and and I are curled up on the sofa watching Carry On films .

Trip out to pick up my drugs stash later , and possibly the wool shop if its open .
What are you all up to ?
Anyone got any bacon ???

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jchocchip · 29/03/2013 09:40

ginger don't feel like a gatecrasher, you are very welcome! Although sorry to hear that the diagnosis was as you feared. Hang around for hand holding and the best snack trolley on mn.

Two weeks mas! That is annoying. Mine are better now I have taxenemic acid and metaformic acid cocktail to take. The cycle lengthened and I thought they were trailing off but then had very heavy episode and had to get pills in order to be able to leave the house! I blame it on the tamoxifen and the hairy chin too Blush

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jchocchip · 29/03/2013 09:44

Xpost topsy stashes chocolate for end of lent- thanks. No bacon but dh just fetching me another Brew and bread and marmalade

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PenPerson · 29/03/2013 09:59

Sorry to hear your diagnosis ginger. I can't be very helpful re the trial but do you have lots of info about it ? One of my friends felt very pressured to agree to a trial straight after her diagnosis so all I can suggest is you take your time to get as much info as you can before making a decision. Diagnosis is hard enough without having the pressure of that decision too.

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KurriKurri · 29/03/2013 10:01

Morning all

Pen - hands sound very sore, but I think it is very likely to be thyroid - my skin totally peeled off when I was very underactive after the RI. The GP should be able to give you something to help ( I had various things during the course of my problems - dermol 500, hydrocortisone, - I washed my hands with e45 or oilatum handwash too)

Gingerroots - not a gatecrasher at all - just jump, there is absolutely no obligation to try to keep up with all the posts, we move very fast, and i talk largely jibberish so you can skip most of mine Grin (except this one obv Grin)

So sorry to hear you have had this DX, - but at least you know now and you have a treatment plan.

I went on a chemo trial - I mulled it over for a while, and decided in the end that the trials never mean you are going to get lesser treatment, only something extra.
Also they tend to give you more check up appointments (trial ones and normal oncy ones) - so I felt as a hospital phobic it would force me to get used to going into the hospital and give me an extra chance to talk over any concerns.
I had a trials nurse (and am sure you would too) and she was lovely - an extra ear to bend if I needed it.
The only thing I had to 'do' apart form actually taking the drugs, and having more appointments, was fill in a booklet every so often with health questions - nothing hard, I used to do it while I waited for chemo.

So - that is my experience. It is a hard decision and totally individual. I was uncertain but once I had made the decision to go ahead, I knew it was the right one for me because I felt almost relieved. But there is no obligation to do these things, and if you have any worries, talk them over with the trials nurse. I also garnered opinions from my family, and their only question really was 'as long as you get the best treatment...'

I didn't have avastin - but I think someone on here did (I htink it might have been Sand Ripples, and she sometimes pops in over holidays to say hello, so might be able to help you more)

Its only fair to give you the downside too - I was on an accelerated chemo trial (which meant I had different drugs from my hospitals standard, to fit in with the trial as a whole), I had more cycles than normal and closer together with a white blood cell booster in between. (That was the category I was randomized to - it could have been any one of four different regimes, - think I got the short straw in terms of amount of treatment!) I did get pretty ill on chemo, and was hopitalised, but that was because of the intensity of the treatment I was having, and would not be the same for you trial. And who is to say I wouldn't have been ill on chemo anyway? -

So - I don't know if that has helped at all. Personally if the circumstances re occur and I was offered another trial, I would take it. But it is entirely what makes you feel secure and happy in your treatment, there are no rights or wrongs here.

Just waving - as this post has got rather long.

Old lady dog a bit perkier today - she's been out to sniff the daffodils in the garden Grin

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KurriKurri · 29/03/2013 10:09

jane - sorry you are feeling washed out, - I used to have terrible periods, because I had fibroids, - fortunately all pre cancer and I'd had a hysterectomy by then, so I sympathise greatly. I had a pill cocktail to take too, and it did help a bit, but as you say, not always.

I imagine it is the delightful tamoxifen, but obviously I'm not affected in that way, but yes to hairy chin' Anyone else growing their own fluffy sideburns too?

I'd go with the hot water bottle and cuddling up in a duvet regime of treatment Grin

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Gigondas · 29/03/2013 10:19

Waves to ginger- welcome. I am not on a trial but would agree with kurri that you do get some benefits in the extra tlc.

Jchoc- yuck that you are feeling so rubbish, don't move.

Am still in bed- feel a bit jet lagged as sleep cycle and drug cycle out of sync (had got regime going where was taking stuff regularly and also the sleep making tabs at times when could easily nap) so need to try to get that together today.

It's nice enough for the little gigs to have gone to the park (albeit very wrapped up).

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gingeroots · 29/03/2013 10:33

Thank you all for your responses .

I don't think I have much time to decide ,was told on Wednesday and return on Tuesday to agree to chemo ( though having deleted ansaphone message re appointment in a panic ,I'm not sure which hospital my Tuesday appt is at ! ).

I have a leaflet which I need to reread . It suggests that the trial drug ( if I get it of course as it's a randomised trial ,sorry forgot to say that ) starves the cancer cells of oxygen .

But how will it know which are the cancer cells ....won't it starve others ?

The registrar told me verbally ( tho not mentioned in leaflet ) that if you are on the trial you follow a stricter schedule which doesn't allow for the 4th cycle of chemo they sometimes opt for . Which sounds good to me .

Just had big row on phone with one of my brothers regarding speed at which we need to organise our mothers care - I'm her main carer .
And I only told her yesterday afternoon.Sad

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smee · 29/03/2013 11:03

Ginger, sorry you're here at all really, but you are most definitely not a gate crasher. Stick around and let us help you through it all. I didn't have to debate my chemo, as it was the gold standard at that time for my type, so I didn't quibble. Wasn't offered a trial.

Gig, glad nurse called. Stay in bed while little Gigs in the park. Hope you can do some nice distracting things with them later. xx

Jane, curl up and watch Easter films with the cat. Sounds like you need a bit of tlc.

Hope hands don't crack, Pen. Sound very sore. Have you any E45? That usually works.

Kurri, can I have one of those buns?? Sound mmm...

And I agree with the others, MAS. You always look so together in pics and photos. I do get the clothes thing though, as am similar. Very hard to break from the norm in this house

Off for brunch with a gaggle of lovely friends. I have been promised Brick Lane Beigels and bucks fizz. DS in a huff as they're veggies, so no bacon. Have a lovely day all. Smile

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Gigondas · 29/03/2013 11:03

We need our science specialist amber- but those type of drugs are leading edge on cancer treatment for a whole range of cancers. I think they fix onto something on the proteins in cancer cell hence how they hit them , not ordinary cells but lovely amber will know more.

Sounds like you have had a lot to take in so {{{}}}

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topsyturner · 29/03/2013 11:32

Pen get yourself some cracked heel cream (Scholl or Boots own) and use it on your hands .
DH gets awful cracked skin in his hands and this is the only cream strong enough to help (and I have a cupboard full of emollients due to having psoarisis !)

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topsyturner · 29/03/2013 11:34

Are we all joining Gigs in her bed today ?
Do we need to bring our own snacks and selection of DVDs ???

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Gigondas · 29/03/2013 11:36

Yes plenty of room here- I have a lot of wine and chocolate digestives for those that are keen. I better not raid big gigs pombears as that will be child cruelty.

Is there anything good on tv this weekend aside from the labyrinth adaptation?

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