VACCINATIONS - anyone opted out, but not into homeopathy?

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Are there any mums who have decided not to vaccinate their children, but who are not into homeopathy? If so, I would be interested to hear your approach to health.
Also anyone who has opted to give their child a few vaccines but not the whole lot.
Please don't respond with general arguements FOR and AGAINST vaccinations as I'm familiar with both opinions - just interested in the middle ground. Thanks

Well you can't vaccinate against tetanus homeopathically, neither can yo treat it homeopathically (very very poor response rate). Tetanus is still alive and well in the UK, it is a serious disease and a killer.

So, my children have had one DTP shot at 6mths of age only. In that case I think the risks outweigh the benefits.

I don't vaccinate against the MMR, I would rather they caught the natural diseases.

What about the risk to pregnant women from kids with german measles etc?

yes but you can't get DTP or single tetanus though, its 5 in 1 or nothing. I'm really not keen on giving a 5 in 1 to ds2 and ds3 when their brother is severely autistic (and vaccine damaged we believe) . Bloody rock and a hard place

ds1 caught german measles from a vaccinated kid Satine- the jabi sn't that great (80%ish suiccess rate iirc) - much better than women get their own immunity checked anyway and don't rely on herd immunity for something as important as german measles. I know not all pregnancies are planne advice to get immunity checked would make some sense- or perhaps routine checking in teens with a reminder to get regular checks?

jimjams, when you say you cant get DTP, do you mean your surg wont give it? ..there could be a way round that..

I mean there's only the 5 in 1. I want single peadiatric thimerosal free tetanus (or with diptheria if that's how it comes).

I think my surgery would be happy to give him anything :o- but would be interested in any alternatives!

Adsorbed Diphtheria [low dose], Tetanus, Pertussis (Acellular, Component) and Inactivated Poliomyelitis Vaccine is avaliable to the under 10's but still 4 componants. Sorry I can be more help!

the rubella thing always grates on me. Women who have been vaccinated against rubella as children may not be immune at the critical time when they become pregnant. I think a rubella vaccine would be much better being given to girls when they enter adolescence/start to become sexually active.

did you see Franke's post on the other thread Jimjams? She got Tetavax for her children. Wonder if you can get it here. She thought it was thimersol free.

That was when I was given it, in the 70s, Ruty.

We all had it at around 13-14

But I was a pre MMR baby.

In fact had all three diseases as a child. Was very ill with M and M IYSWIM

i was hospitalized with measles and had mumps quite badly. i had rubella too and didn't feel too bad with that, and was glad that i had had it when i got pregnant, as there was no risk of not being immune as with the vaccine. Was also glad to pass temporary immunity of all three to ds whilst breastfeeding. [still breastfeeding, but know immunity doesn't last for ever.]i know measles can be dangerous very well, and i know rubella is very problematic, but not sure the current way is the best.

BTW i know rubella is a mild disease and its problems lie with catching it in pregancy, just to clarify!

Ruty, I posted on the other thread \link{http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk?topicid=1373&threadid=156080&stamp=060317202831#3282091\here}. I think I may have been mistaken about Tetavax. I don't think it is the same as Tetanol which is what we had for our kids. In any event both are Thimersol free but only Tetanol is suitable for babies and under-10s.

thanks franke. its annoying that you can get it in germany and not here tho.

one thing that i alwyas get totally confused about is that if you cut yourself with proverbial rusty nail, you're advised to go to hosp to get a tetanus jab....? so do you need to vax in advance...sorry if being thick (think i probably am)

sophiable, tetanus is carried primarily in the digestive tract of animals and humans. A wound from a rusty nail, is considered a dirty would and is high risk as it could have been contaminated with animal faeces. this is why tetenus is requires. If I remeber correctly Current guidlines say however that if you have all you pre school and high school injections you should be immune for life and not require boosters every ten years, (You may require one booster as an adult, I cant remeber off the top of my head...)

apparrently the jab only works in advance, you can get - i can't remember the name of it, brain not working - a blood based antibody thing afterwards which prevents tetanus from developing, but i have no idea why people get tetanus jabs after a cut - not supposed to work that way.

immunoglobulin, yes ruty only required if you are not up to date with boosters. This works like passive immunity giving the patient some antibodies to give temp immunity.

yes thats it!