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Any old prolapse! Uterus/womb prolapse, rectocele, cystocele, enterocele, urethrocele, incontinence, pelvic floor, anterior and posterior repair, TVT etc part 5

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Piplysmelie · 10/07/2012 09:23

This is thread 3 of a long-running series of posts from ladies suffering from pelvic prolapses to support each other through the process of diagnosis, repair and recovery.

Here are the previous threads:
Thread 1
Thread 2
Thread 3
Thread 5

Info from BBC Health

What is a pelvic prolapse?

As the muscles, ligaments and supporting tissues in the pelvis become weaker, they are less able to hold in the organs of the pelvis such as the womb (uterus) or bladder.

Gravity pulls these organs down and, in the more severe cases, may appear through the entrance to the vagina.

A variety of problems can occur, depending on where the weakness lies and which organs are able to descend, but in every case there is some degree of prolapse of the vaginal wall, which begins to invert (rather like a sock turning inside out).
Prolapse of the womb or uterus is the most common prolapse, affecting as many as one in eight older women to some degree
Prolapse of the bladder, known as a cystocele, is less common.
Prolapse of the urethra (the tube that carries urine out of the bladder) is known as a urethrocele.
Prolapse of the intestines is quite rare, and known as an enterocele or rectocele.

Symptoms

Symptoms depend on which tissues descend, and how severe the prolapse is.

They may include:
A sense of heaviness or pressure in the pelvis.
The appearance of a bulge of tissue in the genital area, which can be quite alarming, and is often red and sore.
Urinary problems, such as having to urinate more frequently, feeling the need urgently, being incontinent (losing control of the bladder) or, conversely, being unable to pass urine when you need to.
Pain in the pelvis or lower back.
Sexual problems, including pain and decreased libido.
Constipation.
Vaginal discharge or bleeding.

Treatment and recovery

Once a prolapse has developed, surgery to fix the affected organs is usually the only way to cure it effectively.

However, another option is to use a device known as a vaginal ring pessary. This is rather like a contraceptive diaphragm or cervical cap. It's made of silicone or latex, and placed in the vagina to push back the prolapsed organs and hold them in place. Many women happily manage their prolapse this way.

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surewoman · 18/07/2012 12:11

Footle - maybe you should go for the laughing gas???? Grin

surewoman · 18/07/2012 12:14

Pip - sometimes wonder if these consultants have nice tiny weenie penies, lol!! x

Piplysmelie · 18/07/2012 13:25

I know as he talked I could feel myself getting Blush and Blush Blush and Blush BlushBlush. The funniest bit though was the nurse who was obviously as embrassment as me and kept jiggling for foot to foot and looking at the ceiling. Grin. Oh well I suppose it's nice he cared enough to explain it.

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surewoman · 18/07/2012 13:37

Was hubby impressed with the consultant's knowledge on how to lubricate women??? Grin

Skinikki · 18/07/2012 14:56

Hello everyone, few days since I have posted and have just been catching up on posts and chuckling at Pips, did make me laugh!! :-)
Day 12 post op: Feel great, have stopped taking pain killers and all looks pretty 'normal' down below. The only niggling thing is the stitches in my groin (one on each side from the ToT) are right in line with my knickers and one keeps catching. How long do they normally take to dissolve?
Am so bored having not done anything now since the op. Really want to get back on my bike (comfy saddle!!!) How about a static bike, gentle spin, very low resistance??? What do you think??

fengirl1 · 18/07/2012 15:38

Perfectly true about torn tissues. I had 'an investigation' and there is a vertical gap at the back which is quite easy to feel. Perhaps we are secretly reptiles which can regenerate muscle if we exercise.... Hmm - not to say I'm not using my machine, cos I am!

Piplysmelie · 18/07/2012 15:48

My hubby had a hernia lower stomache/ groin area a couple of years ago and his consultant did not tell him to do stomache exercises to help it! I think this is the same type of injury as the prolapse and one doctor i saw described it as a hernia but in the fanjo.

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Piplysmelie · 18/07/2012 15:55

Skini glad to read you are feeling better have you tried shorts instead of ordinary knickers.

Not sure about the bike (wincing!) I have read that you are not meant to do any exercise for the first 6 maybe 12 weeks. I am sure some one said driving can do damage to healing repair so dread to think what a bike could do.

Sympathise though I am going a bit stir crazy too.

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hairytale · 18/07/2012 15:57

Wowee! Got my appointment letter for pelvic floor clinic

  • I will be seeing a consultant, a nurse consultant and a
Physio all at the same time! My weak pelvic floor must be very interesting!
fengirl1 · 18/07/2012 15:57

Another one for shorts (I had very swollen groins), and I love my yoga trousers when my stomach is bloated - no waistband to dig in. Smile

surewoman · 18/07/2012 17:34

skini - please don't rush back into exercise after the tot. It's similar to the tvt and I have been told to take it very easy and do nothing much for at least 4 weeks (especially no driving) as the tape needs time to settle into your own tissue and if you jolt it too fast then it can move and become very uncomfortable. Be patient!! - I'm still spending half a day on the bed at 3+ weeks post op (hence I'm on MN all the time as bored, bored, bored) but am following the consultant's orders to the letter and have only just started walking again (about an hour in the morning). which is enough at the mo. Driving next week, hoorah Grin and absolutely no pfe for 6 weeks x

Piplysmelie · 18/07/2012 17:56

Hairy that's great news you must be excited.

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wouldratherbeskiing · 18/07/2012 21:00

skinikki - I agree with Sure - it is v. early for you to be thinking about this sort of exercise but pleased everything is going so well for you to even consider it.

I have also been thinking of getting on my bike. Googled "cycling after rectocele repair" and came up with this:

Words fail me!! The saddle made me laugh and then I thought .... it looks comfortable - what has my life come to?

A meet up - I'd be up for it as long as we don't have to compare stitches!!!

Big hug to all.

ZumbaZara · 18/07/2012 21:54

Personally I am really glad the consultant was happy to talk about sex. Thanks for the information. It is an operation which has a huge affect on our sex life and how we feel about ourselves as women. I was quite surprised that at my preop I was asked about my work, exercise, home life sleeping habits, hobbies driving smoking drinking.............. but not sex??

I am 5 weeks I engaged in outercourse last night but OO hurt. Now why didn't anyone mention that at the hospital?

hairytale · 18/07/2012 22:23

I'm relieved I'm being seen Pip as I really don't know wtf is going on. Was a bit shocked that I'm so broken I need three specialists to look at me!

Your experience with the consultant made me laugh!

fengirl1 · 18/07/2012 22:43

Hope all goes well Hairy. Write down a lust of what you want to ask, ask for anything you're not sure of to be explained and especially ask about the tests that will need to be done (there's bound to be some) and HOW SOON they will be done. I'm going with a checklist tomorrow!

fengirl1 · 18/07/2012 22:44

Haha LIST!! Possible Freudian slip there...

OhNoMyFanjo · 19/07/2012 05:02

I know I am the baby of the tgread (in terms of problems and considering I have yet to pop my prolapse cherry and she it to someone) but everytime I read the thread I learn so much. Thank you ladies.

I'm sitting up in bed with the baby and wondered if there is a better way to sit up and feed him in bed? I'm conscious that I am basically putting the prolapse onto the bed and then putting my weight as well as tge babies on it. Sorry if that's a daft question.

OhNoMyFanjo · 19/07/2012 05:03

Btw have you all seen this tgread

surewoman · 19/07/2012 07:11

Fen - good luck today at your appointment x

Hairy - when is your appointment with physio etc? x

hairytale · 19/07/2012 07:31

Appointment is on 6th August. I've been seeing Physio for a while but there's been no improvement and I have a very weak pelvic floor. I may have a bladder prolapse and they think I have an anal fissure.

surewoman · 19/07/2012 09:27

OhNo - Have you tried using one of those neck pillows for travellers? I have one that I put under the tops of my thighs/low buttocks, the wrong way round, ie fat bit towards the knees and open end under bum, and it takes all the pressure off your pf region and your weight is supported on the cushion when sitting in bed. Works really well for me (got mine in TKMaxx, with removable velvet cover!) - just a thought xxx

Hairy - are you seeing a urologist?

Quick update - have had two nights now that I have managed to sleep right through without needing to wee (hurrah Grin) Had forgotten what it's like to stay asleep until morning. Look absolutely knackered though as catching up on years of missed sleep! Must have been the cystocele causing nocturia. xxx

Gailjen5 · 19/07/2012 09:55

Fen hope all goes well,
Hair, not sure when you go but make the most of the Specialists that see you, can only be a good thing Grin

Skinikki I feel sore just thinking about a saddle, don't do it, pardon my ignorance but what is a TOT? And read of few posts of ladies with stitches in thighs Confused

update on my problems..I have been trying this double weeping & it has alleviated the pressure pains a bit ( but 2nd wee only produces a dribble not then 120 ml I'm leaving behind ) still not good when I sit up straight for a length of time ( worried a bit about going back to work ) but still keeping it up till appt with consultant next Tuesday..

hairytale · 19/07/2012 10:06

No, not seeing a urologist but I've been told I'll be referred on from the clinic to whichever specialists I see.

OhNoMyFanjo · 19/07/2012 10:06

Gail double weeping doesn't sound good!

surewoman thanks I'll try that

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