Rectocele & Repairs continued....

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Rectocele & Repairs...continuation

Hiya Ladies...
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Thanks Nannasylv. Things are now mostly sorted out, but it has been a v upsetting time - trouble with dd1 health wise and with her wanting to be independent but me worrying about her, trouble with dd2 to do with her schooling and a row brewing with exdh about our financial agreement which is not totally settled yet (although it WILL be!) so a lot going on especially as I have been feeling v low. Think I may have found the tunnel, just wondering if the light will turn on tues when I see the consultant....

Anyone ever used an electronic pelvic floor machine?

Hi fen - I bought a thing called an i-sure pelvic toner off amazon (hence surewoman!!! lol!). It's actually quite good and has three programmes - stress, urge and tone, and you can defo feel your muscles contracting. Easy to use/pretty straightforward really. No idea if it makes/will make any difference but does help locate what needs working on and you can use it whilst reading a book in bed!!! Not that I am lazy, but otherwise too much to concentrate on!!

Sorry to hear about your exdh and finances - good luck with all tha;, I've given up now as it only gets me down every time and I need to concentrate on myself now, so we are permanently skint but happy! Big hugs to you xxxx

Thanks Sure, will have a look at that one - was wondering if I was being lazy so I'm glad someone else has one! Will be able to use it when I have my morning cup of coffee in bed.
As far as the exdh is concerned, this is part of a legal agreement so all should be well (I hope).
How is you recovery going?

Hi fen - I've been using NeuroTrac Continence with great success. Have gone from a 0 out of 5 to a 2-3 out of 5. But whatever you use, please don't use it without advice and feedback from a specialist gynae physio - you could end up hurting yourself.

Hi fen - My recovery concerning second incision and stitches has all healed up nicely; the only problem is that the cystocele is getting bigger so I am hoping that when I go in for the TVT he can do a repair job on that too as I still have lumps and bumps where there shouldn't be! It's probably bigger as at last I can move around more without spearing myself on the old barbed wire fence!

Regarding exdh and finances mine was all sorted out legally too, but unless I keep going back to a lawyer to enforce it, it doesn't seem to make a blind bit of difference to him and I can't keep spending on lawyer's fees, court sessions, etc. (which unfortunately he knows). Good luck to you x

I hope the school issues with DD2 are not 11+ related? - lots of unhappy parents in my neck of the woods this year x (gosh, just talked about something totally unrelated to fallen fanjos!!! Wow !

Cardamon - I didn't realise you could do yourself a damage with pelvic toners??? Help!

Sure - with the manual/mechanical ones you can't really. But with the electronic stimulator ones you can. My physio explained that with the sort of damage that we have all experienced, there may be some (even slight) nerve damage as well that will prevent us from realising that the stimulus is too strong (you get a buzzing feeling when it is just bordering on being too strong). So you crank up the volume, so to speak, cos you can't feel anything until the level so really high and/or do it for longer. And do yourself a bit of a mischief in the process. These machines can be fab if used correctly - and for women with the sorts of injuries we have, you really need specialist guidance both to do it safely and to get the most out of it. Mine has lots of different programmes and my physio is able to tell me which ones I need, taking into consideration my overall strength, the symptoms I have, the damage I have sustained, etc.

Cardamom - I'm seeing consultant tomorrow do will ask him. Your bit about 'women with injuries' really pulled me up short - had never thought about it like that and am going to where I acquired those injuries. Hmmmm....

Hi fen - sorry, didn't mean to startle you with talk of injuries. I guess my childbirth experience was pretty dramatic and the childbirth injuries showed up very shortly after the event. But for other women, the fact that an injury was sustained during childbirth could take more time to show up, and the result she currently has could be caused by a multitude of events. I don't think I've read your account of what happened to you on this thread - I'm sorry if I touched a nerve. I know how devastating this is, and I don't want to upset anyone further!
Yes - do ask your consultant. But I've found that even the ones who are brilliant surgically can be a bit gung-ho when it comes to physio-related stuff. Have you had a referral to a specialist women's health/gynae physio? Not going to do you any harm to see one. I see mine every 3 weeks and she's brilliant.
Good luck! XX

Don't worry cardamom, you didn't scare me! I just reckon that as they forced me to give birth to a large (8lb 13 oz) back to back baby who was stuck (and they didn't even know she was OP) with synticinon, tried to force my cervix over her head twice and knackered my tail bone into the bargain they could help me get it sorted. Not to mention the nerve damage they did by letting me home after a laparoscopy with urine retention which got to 2 litres before they got round to draining it... Could go in but shan't. They owe me if you want to put it like that and while I shan't be bolshy if I have to mention it I will. I don't intend to leave until I know how much longer this is going on for. I really have had enough!

fen - yup sounds like child birth injuries to me!!! Bloody hell, love . If you have nerve damage, please don't use an electronic pelvic floor stimulator without seeing a gynae physio, even if your surgeon says it's OK. You just won't have the right feedback to know if you are overworking your muscles. X

Cardamom - thanks so much for this good advice. I have never seen a physio for this so I shall go to the Dr and ask to see one as soon as...!
Thanks again x

Hi fen - I've just found this link on another form. Makes for interesting reading!
www.netmums.com/coffeehouse/.../306542-pelvic-floor-toners.html

Sure - will look it up but will probably give my physio a ring too.

Just wanted to say (sorry!) the consultant might be really in for it if I still have the wind I've got today lol!

So that was good news and bad Footle - I'm sorry to hear about the bad. the limited experience of scar tissue I have (mostly on my palm but some which did used to split in my vagina) is that regular gentle massage does help ( only tried this my hand tho!!) - I had pain and then a horrible stinging nettle sensation which massage helped to settle over a few months. I don't know if this would help? Did he say if it might be to do with nerves healing? This was the case for me.

Hi footle. Sory things are not as good as they could be for you. have you tried ultrasound to break down the scar tissue? In the very early days of my 'journey' into the grim world of prolapse and childbirth injuries I had some ultrasound administered by a gynae physio to help soften the scar tissue. It certainly did help, although it didn't solve the problem entirely. But then again I only had 3 sessions with her, and perhaps if I'd had more, it would have done a better job. Massage might help, and perhaps you could get some instilagel prescribed (local anaesthetic gel) that would take the edge off the pain to enable you to massage more 'thoroughly'. Again, this was something that was suggested to me at the beginning of my voyage of discovery, when all we thought was wrong with me was infected and open tears that were healing wrong (oh happy day that would have been were that the case!!). Again, it didn't solve my problems, but I got distracted when the full extent of what had happened started to become apparent, so possibly it would have helped more if I'd stuck at it.

Well I wasn't quite expecting that! Thought a cervical sample was going to be taken - instead a sample of my womb lining.... Next stop pelvic ultrasound (up to 4 wks) and then perhaps we can get on with it. One thing he did say was he IS going to expedite it ( prodding and poking from same excepted I assume) so at least he listened to some of what I had to say. Sitting with a cup of tea and a belly ache!

Fengirl - and to cheer you up! x

Thanks sure, feeling a bit better still but a bit shell-shocked. Could kick myself for not asking why he now wants do ultrasound - he never mentioned it until after the biopsy (when he also examined me).

'but still' ....

Hi Fen- I had pelvic ultrasound too prior to my ops , had some spotting in between periods and heavy periods , didnt have the sample of cervix taken though, but had cervical smear done. All tests were negative , ultrsound was to rule out any intra uterine reasons for the bleeding which can be as simple as polyps or fibriods so try not to worry . I know it is easier said than done but just look at it as full body MOT xx hope you feel better.
Sending some love to all
On a lighter note xxx Just had a very traumatic 3 hrs trying to help my 13yr old pick her subjects for the new curriculum for excellence, she cant understand why she cant choose to do 3 sciences, so biology? physics? xxx the joys :) , need a bottle of wine now.

Hi fen - I had ultrasound too, I think to rule out the need for hysterectomy whilst they are 'up there' e.g. fibroids, polyps, etc. xxxx

Sure and happy - was the scan vaginal, abdominal or both? It makes no difference to my dignity by now but just wondering... As I said earlier, just wondering/worried why he's decided to do it now, especially as I'm having a hysterectomy anyway. Should have asked...
Had a few strange moments today where I felt sick and faint - not sure if it was the endometrial sample yesterday or stress!