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I have pain in my left shoulder blade. Feel like I am having heart palpatations. Fuck

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TheOriginalFAB · 27/10/2011 16:42

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winnybella · 27/10/2011 22:54

Panicking about your health because you're worrying about leaving your children motherless doesn't preclude the possibility of HA.

I agree with Shiney.

ilovesprouts · 27/10/2011 22:56

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SHRIIIEEEKPoolingBearBlood · 27/10/2011 22:59

Fab, so you are in so much pain :( Anxiety or whatever, I think you need it checking out. Ring NHS Direct if you don't feel it's serious enough to call 999.

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BleachBoys · 27/10/2011 23:42

I agree with shiney. I also think 'health anxiety' when I read your posts too. And, I think you have it on behalf of your children too FAB, but I know you will disagree. It is just you seem to get worried and post on here about all manner of ailments for yourself and your children that we all get at some point, but just don't get as anxious about as you do. It becomes self-fulfulling - the more attention you give something, the more it impacts on you, so the more important you think it is, so the more attention you pay...

I believe you have had several instances of going to HP's who keep telling you there is nothing physiological to worry about, but you are not convinced (until you then go private, who take your money and give you a 'diagnosis'). I do wish you could see the broader picture you paint FAB, but I think you are just too close to everything to be able to have any perspective.

I also think this applies to the schooling issues you have posted about recently. I wish you could see what outsiders can see. Getting your anxiety treated would save you so much stress and money as it is impacting on many aspects of your life.

Rikalaily · 27/10/2011 23:53

I have very similar pain, the GP is treating me for acid reflux with Lansoprazole and Domperidone (which makes your breasts leak!) The meds haven't got rid of all of the pain but I do suffer for it if I don't take them so they are helping. It can be caused by stress and it definately got worse when I lost my sister last Christmas so that fits in too. I've just had a 24hr ECG though to rule out heart issues because of the palpitations and I'm awaiting the results. I was scanned for gallstones as sometimes the pain was across my whole chest or on the right but that was all clear.

Might be worth seeing the GP incase it's the reflux, it doesn't feel like acid, it's an ache most of the time with a sharp pain cutting in which sometimes gets worse when I breathe in, my left breast gets sore too on the side closest to the breastbone, also get pain in my shoulderblade, collarbone area and back sometimes.

Hope you are feeling better soon x

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TheOriginalFAB · 28/10/2011 07:52

Wow. It seems that lots of you think I have major issues.

In terms of my children, 2 of my children have had problems that the GP has completely missed on more than one occasion and have been diagnosed immediately and then treated by private doctors. How is that HA? It writes like you think I am looking for something to be wrong with my children that isn't there. DD has had treatment and is now on her way to being totally fine. How is that not real?

In terms of their schooling, ds1 and ds2 have been assaulted and dd has been intimidated and scared. How can it be wrong to remove them from the school?

I do have some things wrong with me (depression, FM, stress) and it is pretty crap but I have been through worse things in my life than being ill and i will be okay. I will also hold off posting for reassurance as it seems I am pissing people off.

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TheOriginalFAB · 28/10/2011 08:24

I am certain that worryin about things (not my health) is causing breathing issues so that I will deal with. I am quite pissed off with myself as I have come through worse things without it making me breath funny or giving me shoulder/back/heart pain.

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JaneBirkin · 28/10/2011 08:28

I can see why you worry about physical symptomsand feelings that many of us might take in our stride.

I think you are kind of pre programmed to react with fear and anxiety because of a sense that no one is there to look after you.

I get really anxious about my body when I am feeling alone and as if no one is there, and it's all down to me, and it feels like everything could just fall apart and no one would do anything so I have to be hypervigilant.

When I feel ok, and loved and secure (I mean deep down - not just from everyday things, things and people that are here for me now but deeper than that, from a long time ago) then I don't feel concerned about every little twinge because it seems like I'm safe.

So maybe that's where it comes from, a sense of not being safe for whatever reason. So you can't trust that you're Ok, and not really ill, or something, because you've no basis to trust that things are alright. That;'s hard to change as it comes from our earliest childhood.

So people with HA find it hard to get over.
I don't know if you have HA but maybe this helps a bit

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TheOriginalFAB · 28/10/2011 08:48

That is Shock as it makes total 100% sense. My God, I have given too much of myself away on here Blush.

I don't remember ever feeling safe apart from with my first love for a bit and my husband.

My mother told me she wanted to have an abortion with me and wanted a boy so have felt like I have had to fight against everything to be here and sometimes it feels like I should just give in as I can never win.

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RichTeaAreCrap · 28/10/2011 09:52

FAB - how are you feeling this morning healthwise? I still think it may be worth getting the chest pains looked at by the doctor.

It does seem that you have some kind of HA caused by other issues. Are you having help for the other issues? I think that once you do then you will start to feel better healthwise. Aside of the HA, carrying something around and feeling like you want to give up is itself draining and can cause all kinds of symptoms. It is stress and pressure and will be making you feel run down and generally unwell.

giraffesCantDookForApples · 28/10/2011 09:53

are you getting support for anxiety fab?

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TheOriginalFAB · 28/10/2011 10:00

I asked DH to ring the GP while I was in the shower but he thinks I needs to do exercise to get my heart going.

The pain in my arm has eased off but I am still having breathing issues brought on by anxiety.

I mentioned to my GP I as having anxiety attacks that were effecting my breathing and he gave me a peak flow monitor so I could see if it as asthma or anxiety.

No support for it. I am seeing another GP next week as I need a letter from him and will talk to him about it then.

I was wondering about getting something ike rescue remedy. I used it before when I was struggling with the children/depression but I don't remember it being a help.

I would feel stupid saying I get breathing issues when anxious as the doctor's just put it down to me having a lot of unavoidable stress at the moment. I guess they think it will pass when the issues do. One has been ongoing for approximately 3 years and I am probably looking at another 1-2 years before it is resolved.

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JaneBirkin · 28/10/2011 10:32

I'm sorry to get it right Sad

It does make perfect sense. It's good if you can keep aware of what is causing it, ie the stress, fear, worry.

That's huge and has a massive impact on people. It's not fair though Sad

I think you've had some counselling haven't you - I still think ongoing counselling or therapy would be really helpful to you. It's almost like paying someone to be there for you, to get attached to, to feel safe when nothing else seems Okay.

I wish I could do it myself...one day maybe I will go private. for now just using the CBT and so on to keep it all vaguely under control!

giraffesCantDookForApples · 28/10/2011 10:53

thing is everyone has unavoidable stress, but not everyone has this type of anxiety issues so sounds like you need some support in how you deal with this stress.

RichTeaAreCrap · 28/10/2011 11:54

The stress that is going to last another 2 years - surely there must be some way out of it. That will be 5 years. Can't you do anything at all to get rid of the stress or to minimise it? Everyone has normal stress to deal with, but to deal with it so long with an anxiety issue can't be nice to go through.

It makes sense that it is all stress related though - but the breathing problems really are worth talking to a doctor about. They can help you through these things and try to reduce the impact it all has on your help.

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TheOriginalFAB · 28/10/2011 12:38

I feel like I need a get a grip.

I am seeing a nurse this afternoon. I am not looking forward to it. Last time I saw a nurse foir excessive tiredness she said my depression was causing a rash and the tiredness. My depression was, and is, under control so I hope it doesn't turn out to be a waste of time like last time.

I doubt very much there is anything I can do wrt the ongoing 2 year situation. It is going to last as long as it takes to resolve.

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TheOriginalFAB · 28/10/2011 12:43

I feel that if it is just stress/anxiety causing these pains and breathing problems then I should be able to deal with them at home, and what can the GP do anyway. I just feel I owe it to my kids to make sure there isn't anything else going on. I am as sure as I can be I am just a stresshead and not actually ill.

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TheOriginalFAB · 28/10/2011 12:58

I know that stress of what I have going on is probably causing the breathing issues. I was worried last night because I had new symptoms.

I don't feel you are matter of fact with me, I feel you can be quite mean. There is a huge line between there there and stop being a wallower. 99.9% of my time is spent doing thing for others. The time I get to myself is extremely limited.

In the past I have bottled up problems and it has caused me problems so I don't think pretending that things are not happening are not always the sensible thing to do.

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notnowbernard · 28/10/2011 12:59

I also agree with Shiney and others who share her opinion

Seeking support/guidance/reassurance etc online from a huge group of people who are inevitably going to hold a wide range of views and opinions is not going to be helpful

If you do truly believe that you may have HA, you'll need consistency in your approach to managing it. And getting a load of conflicting opinions on a forum won't help - the 'reassuarance' is never enough, you get pissed off with people who 'say the wrong thing', people will come up with potential diagnoses you haven't considered, thereby increasing the anxiert etc etc...

I reckon getting hold of a decent therapist, tbh (and think I have posted something like that to you in the past, anyway)

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TheOriginalFAB · 28/10/2011 12:59

shine - right so what would you have done with a dd who had phsyical difficulties who the doctor couldn't/wouldn't help and you had 2 children who were being assaulted and one intimidated when the school woulndn't do anything to stop it? FFS.

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