Thread? worms in bottom?

[pupuce]

OK... so I was told this AM by DD's teacher that this is what she is suffering from.... she went to bed last night and complained until midnight of a VERY VERY itchy bottom. She finally fell asleep and feels fine this AM....
Any experience, words of wisdom? I am not keen to get these tablets I was told to buy, any other suggestions? Is it the only way to get rid of them etc ?
Thank you

get the tablets
wash the linen and the towels
vacuum like a demon
cut nails very very short

I have heard a remedy involving raw onions and honey but they are so maddeningly awful for kids would you really want to trial a non 100% effective roue?

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pupuce, as far as I know the tablets are the only practical way to get rid of them - and they're very well-tolerated tablets, safe and get rid of the worms completely.
The other way is the hygiene method - but to be honest I can't see it working with a child. Basically you have to interrupt the worms' life cycle by not ingesting any eggs for four weeks. As the eggs get everywhere - they're airborne once dried - it'd be very difficult to do, you'd also have to supervise your dd 24/7 for four weeks to make sure she doesn't scratch her bum.
It's such an unhygienic and unpleasant thing to have, and in little girls the worms can migrate to the bladder - really, get the tablets.
You still have to do a major spring clean though because the eggs get everywhere and can survive for several weeks.

grapefruit seed extract from health shop.... good way of preventing them coming back.

My boys were prone to get them and this has helped.

You can get homeopathic tablets - cina 30mg. You take three tablets a day for three days, then again a fortnight later.

Make sure dd washes her hands very regularly including scrubbing under her nails, and doesn't suck her fingers/pick her nose etc as she could re-ingest them.

When she goes to bed at night put her in knickers as well as pjs. Change her bed daily and vacuum her bedroom carpet daily too.

Bloody nightmare but it does work. I gave the medicine to dd2 but I went the homeopathic route because I was b/f. They did take longer to go and tbh I think it would have been a bit much for dd2 to go through.

Thanks everyone. I went to homeopath and he suggested CINA too... so we've started on that.
She feels fine now but I believe it's evenings that it is really horrible... Also was told to give her 30 roasted pumpkin seeds too... we'll see !

This is the 1st time DD is having any sort of medication/remedy... she is thrilled LOL

Tablets def. And wash the towels and bedding etc, wash wash wash....

well, I will be stunned and amazed if that works. Do let us know.

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pupuce, you could try papaya tablets or drops. they are pretty effective. These quotes are from Bioforce, a reputable herbal medicine company. their drops are called papayaforce.

"It is also antiparasitic for the very simple reason that it dissolves the outer cuticle of the worms, leaving them with very little to say for themselves! It is a painless and effective way of getting rid of what can be an ongoing problem."

"Q: Despite taking the recommended precautions my eleven year old child keeps getting threadworms. Is there anything that would prevent this? Our doctor suspects he is picking it up at school.

A: Threadworms dislike garlic, so using garlic in cooking or taking a garlic supplement can be helpful, although moderation is necessary to avoid losing friends! Papaya is used to get rid of intestinal worms, and the supplement Papayaforce is safe for children to use. I would also recommend building up your son's immune system with 10 drops of tincture of Echinacea, twice daily in a little water or juice."

I would have thought that the enzyme present in papaya (papain) would be denatured bt the acid in the stomach and broken down by the enzyme there that breaks down protein (papain is a protein)

Where do the eggs hatch, anyway? Just in the lower intestine? Or what?

We have a had a family infestation of worms. We already eat quite a bit of garlic. I'm dubious about these natural treatments, other than the hygiene one (which I'm sure works, but is v. hard work).

The eggs hatch in the small intestine. The eggs are protected from the acid in the stomach but when they get into the Alkaline environment of the small intestine they hatch.

Regarding the eggs. Sorry if this is too grim at supper time but you can also inhale them. They are microscopic and easilt taken into the lungs. When they are there they get trapped in musus. The mucus is cleared out of the lungs by the action of microscopic hairs (cilia) the mucus is moved upwards at a rathe of 1 cm a minute and when it reaches the top of the wind pipe it drops into the gullet and inot the stomach. This happens all the time and we are quite unaware that it happens.

However if you have brethed in the eggs they can then re-infect you. Good hygine helps to get rid of them but may not be 100% for the reason I have given

Garlic is cobblers. I eat it almost every day and I got them whne ds did

The sort of fix that I'd be tempted by, would be a topical anal one. Or a suppository. Of course that a) would be a bit gross and b) wouldn't protect from the airborne thing (although it would keep the worms from getting out to make eggs to become airborne).

I did find a site that recommended using a garlic suppository, but it also recommended homeopathy, so had no credibility with me ...

gawd, don't shove a garlic clove up there!

Don't you remember the poor woman who shoved a garlic clove up her fanny to get rid of an infection and then lost it?????

sorry to butt in, how do you know if a child has threadworms? ds2 keeps saying his bottom hurts but that's the only 'symptom' except he's always messing with it (and his willy of course). His buttocks are dry and he scratches them so I don't know if he means that but usually after he says his bottom hurts he does a poo.

He also says he is hungry all the time but then OTOH he's not eating masses of food.

I'm not about to shove a garlic clove up there, I'd worry it would sting.

That being said, I have used a garlic clove as a pessary for yeast infection, but it didn't work. (Was a doozy of a yeast infection, though, the people at the bits clinic were impressed by it when I gave up and went!) Losing things vaginally requires a certain level of incompetance I no longer possess, anyway.

Of course losing things anally is a fair bit easier, what with there being a lot more tube to lose things in.

I'd just think that some pharmaceutical company would make some sort of suppository against worms. They're probably easier to kill that way, surely?

gdg, worms making you hungry is an old wives tale (I know they are sometimes right but not this one)

The way to tell is to look at you dcs butt at night, use a torch. The little buggers come out at night to lay eggs. they are about a cm long and very thin. they wriggle a lot!

You can also see them in the poo. they are small white wavy things. You have a hairy, waving turd!

problem with a suppository is that by and large the brits are not keen and also you'd have o make sure that the anti worm chemical got righ up and zapped em all

PMSL MB! Ds2 is doing his poo in the potty atm (only trained a month ago) and I can't say I've noticed any - would they be very obvious.

Bleurgh!