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General election 2024

Would you avoid places that are now reform?

165 replies

TinaMariah · 05/07/2024 09:39

Lots of people who live near reform cities posting online stating they will boycott. Many are black or brown and are concerned about the levels of racism they've experienced in the last few weeks, and are stating they will avoid. Many calling for annual events to be held elsewhere. Anyone have any thoughts on this? I'm definitely concerned as a black woman who has experienced racist abuse twice in the last two weeks, one where I was told 'farage would kick get rid of yas' (this was whilst watching the football). I'm definitely worried.

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StarDolphins · 05/07/2024 10:14

No, I wouldn’t avoid those areas. I wouldn’t give it a second thought.

pancakestastelikecrepe · 05/07/2024 10:14

@POTC Skegness is generally near Clacton?

TinaMariah · 05/07/2024 10:15

tinydynamine · 05/07/2024 10:12

Please remember: people are entitled to vote for any party they choose. And don't forget: "they" think "you" are wrong just as much as "you" think "they" are wrong.

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Hoppinggreen · 05/07/2024 10:15

They aren't exactly places I would be rushing to visit anyway (I am white) but it does make me even less keen to go and DH was listing them this morning as "places we will never set foot"

Teddleshon · 05/07/2024 10:15

@Summerfreezemakesmedrinkwine don’t forget the Netherlands and quite a few others too!

1dayatatime · 05/07/2024 10:15

Summerfreezemakesmedrinkwine · 05/07/2024 10:11

Why not, I'm just on the cusp of cancelling our trip to France, Italy and Switzerland. Hope you'll all join me. Sad times.

(Or, is it just places in the UK who have indicated that they have been failed by liberal, progressive policies on the shit list?)

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Except in reality you know you won't cancel because your desire for a holiday will trump your political opinions.

Summerfreezemakesmedrinkwine · 05/07/2024 10:16

1dayatatime · 05/07/2024 10:15

Except in reality you know you won't cancel because your desire for a holiday will trump your political opinions.

They really need a sarcasm emoji

MrsWhiskerz · 05/07/2024 10:16

Yes

eggplant16 · 05/07/2024 10:16

Summerfreezemakesmedrinkwine · 05/07/2024 10:11

Why not, I'm just on the cusp of cancelling our trip to France, Italy and Switzerland. Hope you'll all join me. Sad times.

(Or, is it just places in the UK who have indicated that they have been failed by liberal, progressive policies on the shit list?)

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Unfortunately the racists move among us. And ( in my case) because I'm white and kinda ordinary looking older person, they assume I am one of them.

Goldenbear · 05/07/2024 10:22

I am white but they aren’t my cup of tea anyway!

Paulettamcgee · 05/07/2024 10:23

Went to a tea shop in Clacton a few years ago. Asked if they had a table for 5 and was immediately told no. My white family member who was waiting outside with my children went in after me and asked the same person I had, who responded to just give her 2 mins to bring the tables together. Family member came and beckoned us in, tea shop owner was scowling as we strolled through the door.

We sat there for a while umming and ahhing the menu before leaving. There's wasn't a chance in hell I was risking eating there or giving that prat my money.

Saschka · 05/07/2024 10:24

tinydynamine · 05/07/2024 10:12

Please remember: people are entitled to vote for any party they choose. And don't forget: "they" think "you" are wrong just as much as "you" think "they" are wrong.

If racists from Clacton and Great Yarmouth want to boycott London in return, that is absolutely fine with me.

(I do specifically mean racists, not just the general population)

EmeraldRoulette · 05/07/2024 10:25

@eggplant16 That seems like a comment that's designed to be inflammatory. Why would I assume a white person was a racist?!

@TinaMariah I understand it must be very difficult if you live there.

If it's any consolation, I spent a fair chunk of my childhood in a BNP stronghold and over the years we didn't get too many comments.

I find it much more upsetting as an adult, that comment at the football would have really upset me. How did you respond?

It has happened a few times in London though so... what can you do.

maudelovesharold · 05/07/2024 10:26

Just remember that even in all the seats which went to Reform, many more people didn’t vote for them, than did.

twilightermummy · 05/07/2024 10:28

Yes me! I had planned to take the children to Great Yarmouth for a week in the summer - I'm now going to stick to my original plan of Cornwall and brave the long journey!
I live in a town where Reform came second. It didn't come as a surprise. If Reform win here come the next election, I'll look to move. Fingers crossed that all the disaffected voters will be happier in 4 years.

SnackQueen · 05/07/2024 10:30

By this logic, I'll have to avoid all of the constituencies that elected Independent candidates who campaigned along sectarian lines with single issue pro-Palestine/pro-Hamas manifestos for fear of my own safety. This includes MY OWN FUCKING CONSTITUENCY.

Saschka · 05/07/2024 10:30

That seems like a comment that's designed to be inflammatory. Why would I assume a white person was a racist?!

A lot of racists seem to be under the impression that all other white people are secretly just as racist as they are but just “can’t say it”.

The day after the Brexit vote, I was working at Royal London hospital, which has a very high proportion of both Asian patients and staff. A older white male patient leaned over to me and said “don’t worry love, now we’ve voted for Brexit we’ll kick all of these P*KI nurses out”.

Why the fuck he thought I’d appreciate him calling my friends and colleagues that word is beyond me, but he obviously couldn’t fathom that somebody could be white and not hate Asian people as much as he did.

tinydynamine · 05/07/2024 10:32

SnackQueen · 05/07/2024 10:30

By this logic, I'll have to avoid all of the constituencies that elected Independent candidates who campaigned along sectarian lines with single issue pro-Palestine/pro-Hamas manifestos for fear of my own safety. This includes MY OWN FUCKING CONSTITUENCY.

By some of the logic displayed here, we should all stay in our homes if we can't stand the thought that other people think differently.

TinselTarTars · 05/07/2024 10:33

I live not far from Clacton and we're gutted he got in. Two things, Clacton used to be a thriving town but has evaporated (only their seafront receives investment) they have a huge problem with anti social behaviour, particularly due to people being housed in the area upon leaving prison or entering the country.
Secondly, there's a large population of unemployed and vulnerable, and Farage was more present there than the other candidates. I doubt they'll see him much now he's elected.
Those of us living near Clacton are uncertain what this means for us, but if people begin to avoid the town then the tourism trade will feel the hit.

Getonwitit · 05/07/2024 10:33

We are all free to avoid any area that makes us feel unsafe, aren't we lucky.

LumpyandBumps · 05/07/2024 10:34

I am fairly disappointed that Reform polled higher than the national average in my constituency.
Whether or not they were first past the post in some areas, an awful lot of people voted for them throughout the country.
I doubt it’s possible to avoid them by not visiting certain areas.
The populations of seaside towns like Yarmouth, Skegness and Clacton are hugely swelled by holiday makers in summer, so the hard line Reform influence is likely to be diluted. The results wouldn’t stop me visiting anywhere, although TBH I rarely feel the desire to go to Yarmouth or Clacton.

Squareplate · 05/07/2024 10:35

TinselTarTars · 05/07/2024 10:33

I live not far from Clacton and we're gutted he got in. Two things, Clacton used to be a thriving town but has evaporated (only their seafront receives investment) they have a huge problem with anti social behaviour, particularly due to people being housed in the area upon leaving prison or entering the country.
Secondly, there's a large population of unemployed and vulnerable, and Farage was more present there than the other candidates. I doubt they'll see him much now he's elected.
Those of us living near Clacton are uncertain what this means for us, but if people begin to avoid the town then the tourism trade will feel the hit.

Yes. I hate everything Reform stands for, but their success in these places has more to do with how badly the other parties have neglected the poor, white population than anything Reform have done or said.

fungipie · 05/07/2024 10:35

Will definitely NOT go there for my holidays or anything else, events, shopping, whatever.

As said, dreadful places anyway, but now even more so.

Toomuch44 · 05/07/2024 10:35

Hadn't even occurred to me and the answer is 'no'. It's only going to affect people in the local communities if trade reduces, and we have to remember not all of them voted Reform.

Getonwitit · 05/07/2024 10:37

eggplant16 · 05/07/2024 10:16

Unfortunately the racists move among us. And ( in my case) because I'm white and kinda ordinary looking older person, they assume I am one of them.

Yes racists and bigots do move amongst us and just like terrorists they come in all shapes and sizes!