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General election 2024

I’m hearing Jeremy Corbyn is going to lose his seat

236 replies

noblegiraffe · 03/07/2024 12:14

If so, this is the election that just keeps on giving.

His refusal to stand down gave us Boris Johnson so it would be nothing less than he deserves.

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cupcaske123 · 03/07/2024 21:20

localnotail · 03/07/2024 21:18

Corbyn represents all the worst aspects of the labour party and left in general. I would love to send him to live in Stalinist USSR as I'd love him to experience his idealistic bullshit in practice (spoiler: Gulag).

You sound nice.

Beginningless · 03/07/2024 21:20

Fkouncingflump · 03/07/2024 16:27

I think he is brilliant. Still gutted he lost.

Same. He’s worth 1000 Keir Starmers.

drspouse · 03/07/2024 21:23

greglet · 03/07/2024 21:11

@drspouse who is that?

"Lily" Madigan.

HRTQueen · 03/07/2024 21:28

Beginningless · 03/07/2024 21:20

Same. He’s worth 1000 Keir Starmers.

well that is a matter of opinion

and utterly pointless if you are never going to lead your party to winning an election

noblegiraffe · 03/07/2024 21:52

Beginningless · 03/07/2024 21:20

Same. He’s worth 1000 Keir Starmers.

If you want a Tory government.

He should have stood down. Those 'backstabbing' MPs were absolutely correct to try to get rid of him.

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HauntedPencil · 03/07/2024 22:10

He had an opportunity and he was crap.

Yet again his outriders are making ridiculous excuses for him in case he loses, as they did in 2019.

Beginningless · 03/07/2024 22:11

noblegiraffe · 03/07/2024 21:52

If you want a Tory government.

He should have stood down. Those 'backstabbing' MPs were absolutely correct to try to get rid of him.

I agree there were issues with him as a leader, but that’s more about the system he operates in than him. In terms of a likeable, decent example of humanity and values, I can’t imagine how anyone would say Keir outperforms him, he’s awful. Will say whatever he thinks he needs to say. He’s a snake. I’d take Jeremy’s unpolished flaws but decency any day.

Champagnesocialismo · 03/07/2024 22:12

HRTQueen · 03/07/2024 21:28

well that is a matter of opinion

and utterly pointless if you are never going to lead your party to winning an election

Well exactly. He made Labour into a purity cult. Fat lot of good it did them electorally

HauntedPencil · 03/07/2024 22:14

I don't really understand why people are so convinced Jeremy is such a nicer and more saintly human being than Keir Starner.

By all accounts he's a decent MP in his constituency, but he was terrible as a leader. Woeful.

CurrentHun · 03/07/2024 22:15

Why is he even standing? Absolute arrogance. I blame Corbyn for loads of things. Backing Brexit. Not tackling anti semitism in Labour. Not getting a really shit hot clever team around him. Allowing wokery and tribalism to be more important than getting elected! He gave us Boris as a PM basically. Awful thing to do to a country. I’m sure Corbyn is perfectly nice person but standing against his own party is a sad end to his career.

DramaLlamaBangBang · 03/07/2024 22:22

Xiaoxiong · 03/07/2024 19:34

He is true to what he believes in re Brexit which was the greatest act of self harm to the economy possible.

He didn't campaign for Brexit, or even explain why he thought it ws a great idea, ' man of principle' that he is, he just sat on his hands and prevaricated, pretended he supported remain but didn't do so. He may be a good constituency MP but he was a crap ' leader'. He only wasn't expelled under the last Labour government because Blair stopped it.( even after saying he thought he prolonged the signing of the Good Friday agreement by pissing about with the IRA promising them things he couldn't deliver because he had no influence)

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 03/07/2024 22:24

The right wing of the Labour Party will never allow a left wing leader

What does this even mean? The Labour Party had a very left-wing leader in Michael Foot back in the 1980s. Guess what, the electorate preferred Mrs Thatcher. The party had to move back to just left of centre and get rid of Militant Tendency to get elected and then they were able to achieve a few things. The Opposition parties can achieve very little.

Then we went through it all again with Corbyn and Momentum. Nothing learned from the 1980s and 90s at all.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 03/07/2024 22:28

Corbyn should have been honest about Brexit. It was Labour Party policy to support the Remain campaign and he ignored that because he and his inner cabal didn't like the EU. Disgraceful and he bears some of the responsibility for the disastrous consequences.

LittlePearDrop · 03/07/2024 22:28

He should have stood down as Labour leader following the 2017 election. Theresa May was pretty unpopular thanks to her dementia tax and it was clear at the time that Labour could have won it with a more centre left leader. Instead, he held on, and I partially hold him responsible for the shambles of the last five years. A more credible Labour leader could have taken on the Tory party.

ScandiNoirNuit · 03/07/2024 22:41

LittlePearDrop · 03/07/2024 22:28

He should have stood down as Labour leader following the 2017 election. Theresa May was pretty unpopular thanks to her dementia tax and it was clear at the time that Labour could have won it with a more centre left leader. Instead, he held on, and I partially hold him responsible for the shambles of the last five years. A more credible Labour leader could have taken on the Tory party.

Agree with this. He led Labour to worst defeat since 1930s and yet people still idolise him!

noblegiraffe · 03/07/2024 22:45

He was stubborn, cantankerous, hated being questioned, dreadful at interviews. When he was challenged, as is typical of the hard left, he dug in, instead of any sort of reflection or compromise. It was a fucking disaster for Labour.

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Champagnesocialismo · 03/07/2024 22:50

It was extremely predictable. He was involved in drafting the 1983 manifesto! What did people think would happen when he became leader 40 odd years later?

Boggles the mind.

Metempsychosis · 03/07/2024 23:06

Michael Foot supported the retaking of the Falkland Islands because "I know a fascist when I see one". Jeremy Corbyn did not, he couldn't spot a fascist then, and he can't spot one now.

I haven't a clue which way Islington will go though: a lot of local voters genuinely don't know that Corbyn isn't standing for the Labour Party, and it's a mystery how they'll break when they see the ballot paper in front of them with one box with a red rose in it and another with the name Jeremy Corbyn.

DramaLlamaBangBang · 03/07/2024 23:21

Metempsychosis · 03/07/2024 23:06

Michael Foot supported the retaking of the Falkland Islands because "I know a fascist when I see one". Jeremy Corbyn did not, he couldn't spot a fascist then, and he can't spot one now.

I haven't a clue which way Islington will go though: a lot of local voters genuinely don't know that Corbyn isn't standing for the Labour Party, and it's a mystery how they'll break when they see the ballot paper in front of them with one box with a red rose in it and another with the name Jeremy Corbyn.

His leaflets are red, even though he says he's standing as an independent do its easy to see how they could be confused

79Helene · 03/07/2024 23:39

LittlePearDrop · 03/07/2024 22:28

He should have stood down as Labour leader following the 2017 election. Theresa May was pretty unpopular thanks to her dementia tax and it was clear at the time that Labour could have won it with a more centre left leader. Instead, he held on, and I partially hold him responsible for the shambles of the last five years. A more credible Labour leader could have taken on the Tory party.

He should have stood down as Labour leader following the 2017 election.

Yes definitely, but his ego got the better of him. The thing about Corbyn is, he never wanted to get into No. 10. I don't think he even wanted to be party leader, it just somehow happened. He would have fucking loathed being PM, having to toe the line, ditch his cranky mates and then deal with the country protesting him instead of him being the protestor.

@noblegiraffe See you at 3 am.

DinnaeFashYersel · 03/07/2024 23:41

Fingers crossed.

noblegiraffe · 03/07/2024 23:46

He didn't want Labour to win an election, he just wanted to win the argument about whether he should be leader. So when the MPs no-confidenced him (with excellent reason) he thought 'I can win this argument using the membership vote' and so refused to go. Nothing about what was best for the party, just what was best for his smug, self-satisfied sense of righteousness.

And when he got kicked out of Labour, he then decided to run against them. Again, because he thought he could win the argument that he, Jeremy Corbyn, should be an MP by appealing to the voters. He doesn't want a Labour government, he is actively campaigning against them.

But hopefully he will find out shortly that the voters don't think that Jeremy Corbyn being an MP is more important than wanting a Labour government.

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DramaLlamaBangBang · 04/07/2024 00:54

But hopefully he will find out shortly that the voters don't think that Jeremy Corbyn being an MP is more important than wanting a Labour government.
The thing is, there will be a Labour government. One seat, where he will behave as he did under the last Labour government and vote against it on everything wouldn't make a difference if his constituents still wanted him as their MP. Yet it seems according to that poll that they don't.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 04/07/2024 04:40

Woolysheeps · 03/07/2024 17:54

Another one here who sincerely hopes he doesn't lose his seat. I grew up wealthy, went to private school etc etc. JC is the reason I actually joined the Labour Party, 'betraying' my own background and staunch Tory voting parents. He's the only politician I've ever felt had a shred of integrity.

He lied constantly. About the wreath, his position in Brexit.

localnotail · 04/07/2024 06:50

cupcaske123 · 03/07/2024 21:20

You sound nice.

Corbyn reminds me of the old Russian revolutionaries who ended up victims of the system they themselves created. I grew up in the good old USSR, so his communist worship is very distasteful to me.

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