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General election 2024

What are you expecting?

112 replies

Lovepeaceunderstanding · 24/06/2024 17:25

It is all but a forgone conclusion that Labour will form our next government.
How are you expecting your life to change as a result?
what are you most looking forward to or dreading?
I look forward to hearing your thoughts.

OP posts:
AmelieTaylor · 27/06/2024 16:28

How are you expecting your life to change as a result?

IF Labour get in:

fuel to become even more expensive causing a rise in inflation, goods, especially food, doesn't get to retail free!

Home fuel prices going UP.

NHS being totally run into the ground

what are you most looking forward to or dreading?

The nail in the coffin of the NHS

I look forward to hearing your thoughts.

Why which 'side' is paying you?

nearlylovemyusername · 27/06/2024 16:37

@EasternStandard

I'm involved with some research.
You'd be shocked speechless to know how much money Putin pours into influencing and destabilising Western politics.

Le Pen gets millions from him, via 3rd parties obviously.

AfD in Germany has significant proportions of Russians living there and funding coming from Putin as well. Again, indirectly, but traceable.

Close to home - check major donors of Brexit. Check impressive links of Cummings with Russia. Check Reform donors and Farage's recent speech.

Most worryingly - check the list of major donors of Labour this year, those with £m+ donations. A lot of them have business links with Russia, Gazprom in particular, and would benefit substantially from relaxed sanctions.

Check which EU countries suffered most because of sanctions of Russian gas? those which didn't have own nuclear power. Rayner is very vocal against Trident.

Do you believe Ukraine would be where they are now if they kept their nukes?

The problem is that electorate doesn't want to know this and doesn't give a s..t.

OneEdgyFatball · 27/06/2024 16:44

Nothing.

OneEdgyFatball · 27/06/2024 16:44

GinnyBee · 26/06/2024 22:00

Having a credible adult in charge. More responsible spending of our tax dollars. Better relationships with international partners, due to having a credible adult in charge. Steady improvement over circus tricks and “bold ideas”. NHS recovering.

'Credible adult'

WEF puppet and pathological liar more like

nearlylovemyusername · 27/06/2024 16:49

Can't edit previous post:

Labour defends taking £1.5m given by Just Stop Oil donor Dale Vince | Politics News | Sky News

Green tycoon gives £5mn to Labour party for election war chest (ft.com)

So £6.5m just here, much more if you google.

Then google Dale Vince and Gazprom - he refused to withdraw from business with Gazprom and will benefit hugely from Labour's loose policy on Russia and nuclear energy.

And then even more from Starmer's British Energy. Let's talk about mates then?

(Edit - don't know how to remove picture)

Labour defends taking £1.5m given by Just Stop Oil donor Dale Vince

Dale Vince, who set up Ecotricity and is chairman of Forest Green Rovers, has donated £1.5m to the Labour Party in the past decade or so. He has also been giving money to the protest group Just Stop Oil.

https://news.sky.com/story/labour-defends-taking-1-5m-given-by-just-stop-oil-donor-dale-vince-12893636

CheshireCat1 · 27/06/2024 16:54

I’m looking forward to a government that will put the country’s interests before their own.

EasternStandard · 27/06/2024 17:00

nearlylovemyusername · 27/06/2024 16:37

@EasternStandard

I'm involved with some research.
You'd be shocked speechless to know how much money Putin pours into influencing and destabilising Western politics.

Le Pen gets millions from him, via 3rd parties obviously.

AfD in Germany has significant proportions of Russians living there and funding coming from Putin as well. Again, indirectly, but traceable.

Close to home - check major donors of Brexit. Check impressive links of Cummings with Russia. Check Reform donors and Farage's recent speech.

Most worryingly - check the list of major donors of Labour this year, those with £m+ donations. A lot of them have business links with Russia, Gazprom in particular, and would benefit substantially from relaxed sanctions.

Check which EU countries suffered most because of sanctions of Russian gas? those which didn't have own nuclear power. Rayner is very vocal against Trident.

Do you believe Ukraine would be where they are now if they kept their nukes?

The problem is that electorate doesn't want to know this and doesn't give a s..t.

I had wondered about Cummings. What a destabiliser he was

Yeh I’m worried about various things. Do you live in the U.K.?

nearlylovemyusername · 27/06/2024 17:13

Of course I live in the UK, why would I bleed about state of play here so much if not?

EasternStandard · 27/06/2024 17:16

nearlylovemyusername · 27/06/2024 17:13

Of course I live in the UK, why would I bleed about state of play here so much if not?

I was going to ask if you thought of leaving but first wanted to check if you lived here

Idk I feel a bit stressed about it. We have back up if it all goes wrong but if there’s really an issue that won’t work

nearlylovemyusername · 27/06/2024 17:17

And one more thing I expect - such a polarised country won't have opposition. If it's really supermajority, which I'm sure will be the case, Tory will be decimated, LibDems had their role in Brexit, right now they are just a filler with no real experience.
This leaves us with vocal Farage. Assuming he gets a seat of course.

But no real opposition.

God help us

@EasternStandard I'm too old to leave and have very frail and ill parents here. Super happy that DC have dual nationality though.

Papyrophile · 27/06/2024 17:37

@nearlylovemyusername , the probable super-majority is very similar to my fears too. We have often talked about retiring overseas (probably to Portugal, for those whose next question is where, and on a D7 visa to pre-empt the one that follows) but our retirement, relocation and downsize was meant to take us closer to family and friends, not further away.

EasternStandard · 27/06/2024 17:45

nearlylovemyusername · 27/06/2024 17:17

And one more thing I expect - such a polarised country won't have opposition. If it's really supermajority, which I'm sure will be the case, Tory will be decimated, LibDems had their role in Brexit, right now they are just a filler with no real experience.
This leaves us with vocal Farage. Assuming he gets a seat of course.

But no real opposition.

God help us

@EasternStandard I'm too old to leave and have very frail and ill parents here. Super happy that DC have dual nationality though.

Edited

Yep this is how I feel. We’re really happy here but I feel concerned and have sorted passports

nearlylovemyusername · 27/06/2024 17:52

It would be great if at least some proportion of electorate just paused for a minute and instead of emotional "14 years!" tried to rationally think through possible scenarios and vote tactically if needed. Pipe dream I know

verdantverdure · 27/06/2024 17:56

I'm expecting the Lib Dems to be great in Opposition. The Greens to be more vocal, and Parliament go be a less toxic place with fewer Tories in it.

I still can't quite believe anyone would be fool enough to vote for Farage,

But if they do, they'll find out what a lazy arse he is.

He's not in it for the people of Clacton is he?

silverneedle · 27/06/2024 17:59

Abovemypaygrade · 24/06/2024 17:38

This
plus borrow borrow borrow until the IMF refuses to lend

From FT.

”A new Labour government could raise extra money for investment from bond markets without causing a Liz Truss-style gilts crisis, according to fund managers.”

Borrowing to invest can help.

https://www-ft-com.ezproxy.depaul.edu/content/4f868dd0-259d-45e9-bd86-2af4b60aab43

verdantverdure · 27/06/2024 18:05

nearlylovemyusername · 27/06/2024 17:52

It would be great if at least some proportion of electorate just paused for a minute and instead of emotional "14 years!" tried to rationally think through possible scenarios and vote tactically if needed. Pipe dream I know

I have everything crossed for a LOT of tactical voting.

Where I live is quite a leafy previously Tory safe seat. Most people have a degree and a sizeable mortgage. We're neither a "God's Waitiing Room" or "left school at 14 high on the deprivation index" working class Tory type place so it's hard to gauge the level of tactical voting in the Truest of Bluest Tory heartlands like the New Forest, Norfolk, Suffolk, Dorset, Wiltshire and Somerset, and probably most of Hampshire.

I have hopes for Devon and Cornwall though. And the IOW.

What are you expecting?
Catchlock · 27/06/2024 18:09

I live in NI and I'm really really really hoping people come out in force against the DUP. Their previous leader is on child abuse charges and so had to step down. The party thug has taken over and the previous years have been marred with scandal for them. They are self serving and divisive.

If my fellow country men continue to vote for them
I really feel like I want to leave here.

I find the whole election process so depressing at the moment.

LlynTegid · 27/06/2024 18:16

It's not what will change, it is what will not get any worse.

silverneedle · 27/06/2024 18:30

As someone severely ill and disabled, the relief if Labour win of the frightening Tory policy of considering replacing PIP cash payments with vouchers to not happen. Know of course risk there for next time Conservatives in power.

verdantverdure · 27/06/2024 20:03

CheshireCat1 · 27/06/2024 16:54

I’m looking forward to a government that will put the country’s interests before their own.

Me too.

Fingers crushed for an Opposition that dies that too.

1dayatatime · 27/06/2024 23:11

@Papyrophile

That's a really good article and I was recently musing the other day about how the quality of politicians has declined.

If you were a smart talented graduate today then you would have to be mad to go into politics where the pay is low, job security low and you and your family are constantly in the public eye getting criticised. Stuff that, far better to get a high paying private or public sector job

Even if you go into politics with the best selfless intentions to try and improve society, then the public either don't believe you or don't care because they will criticise you anyway.

It is all starting to look like the slow decline of democracy.

Papyrophile · 28/06/2024 00:31

Thanks for being on the same wavelength @1dayatatime. It seems important to me, but I had been starting to think I was a minority of one in not being impressed with politicians.

Solymoly · 28/06/2024 04:39

Energy bills and council tax going up
Having to buy an electric car and ASHP sooner

urbanbuddha · 28/06/2024 04:54

It is all but a forgone conclusion that Labour will form our next government.

This statement fills me with dread.

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