Keir, what do you think?

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Labour will win this General Election but I don’t think Sir Keir will be party leader a year from now because there are many amongst Labour MP’s who will want to be more radical. Who would you like to see as leader of the Labour Party a year from now and why?

This. ☝

I hope that you are right. I suspect that you are not though.

I hope that you are right. I suspect that you are not though

We’ll just have to see I guess. Given how Ks is running the LP, I don’t think there’s much likelihood of Corbyn/Abott or whatever lefty demon some have in mind suddenly springing up and taking over the shop myself.

As I said, there’s a lot of damage to repair and I hope they make inroads into that damage and we all get a bit of stability rather than the chaos of the last 5 years.

Don't forget, the Unions are the biggest supporters of the Labour Party

Yes. And what is wrong with that?

Do you actually believe repeating all the utter tripe about Corbyn that the bbc, daily fail et al were churning out at the establishment’s behest during his election campaigns gets more believable each time you spout it?

If you knew anything about Corbyn yourself, rather than what a load of headlines for dimwits by gutter hacks have drip-fed you, pride itself wouldn’t allow you to keep parroting it…. unless I’m being overly generous.

Clearly not a shred of original thought, just repeated nonsense a la fakebook. Get over yourself.

I’m voting for @pointythings

No I agree it's not an original thought - it's a well established fact.

What is a la fakebook?

The party destroyed Corbyn, and then they lost.

There... fixed it for ya!

Repeating what exactly

what he said in interviews himself on the radio and TV

still Labour are now electable and shall be in power and get the chance to actually make changes to improve peoples lives

many on the left just can’t grasp this fact

that is so ridiculous it’s funny 😄

Do you know after Boris, Liz Truss and Rishi and the balls up they’ve made of the country I am thinking Keir can’t be any worse?

Keir or Rishi for another 4 years? I’ll take Keir

He clearly stated he voted remain on TV, then got called a Brexiteer by Starmerroids and other idiots, or are you on about those doctored photos and nonsensical claims about him being a terrorist sympathiser for engaging in peace talks?

Labour are now “electable” because Starmer has appeased the corrupt establishment and its fascist media gutter ferrets by offering nothing that’ll rock the boat that needs capsizing, the one that Corbyn scared the living daylights out of them by promising to.

You aren’t the only one incapable of seeing truths that should be as obvious as what day it is tomorrow, and that’s most unfortunate because it’s led to a muppet’s consensus that hurts the smart as well as the stupid.

Absent respect prevents me engaging with you. Soz.

Do you think it makes you sound clever by calling him starmerroids?

Because you don't. Your posts are absolute nonsense on the whole.

😂😂

When you get past the sixth form, come back and actually debate your ideas.

This is the sort of shit my Momentum family member spouts. It is alarming and funny in equal measure.

It's the 1970s all over again. I'm old enough to remember when Thatcher was first elected - my parents walked politics a lot, and I was 11. They were socialists, but could see it would never fly.

Ideology doesn't win elections. Labour under Corbyn found that out the hard way, the Tories are about to learn their lesson soon. In a way it's a shame because Corbyn did have some good ideas, but the UK is never going to be a socialist utopia because its people are centre right at heart.

Corbyn may well have voted remain, but he spent most of his career opposing the EU, in common with Dennis Skinner, Tony Benn, John Mann and actually quite a few Labour MP and quite a few unions and their leaders.

I agree about his portrayal as a terrorist sympathiser - the only difference between him and Thatcher was that whilst they were both talking to terrorists, Thatcher was actively lying about it, and in fact never told the truth about it.

I have always voted Labour, but did so with a heavy heart in some respects when Corbyn was in charge. Many of his policies were fine but that last campaign in 2019 when they were firing out impossible promises day after day was a disaster.

And I will never forgive his lack of passion for remain, like the time he reluctantly said he was 'about 70%' in favour of the EU during the campaign and calling for Article 50 to be triggered the day after the referendum. His actions were a huge betrayal of the poor and the young, both of whom supported him in huge numbers, especially the latter, and both of whom have suffered a disproportionate amount as a result of Brexit, with the young in particular being massively opposed to it. If Corbyn had gone into some of those red wall areas and used his famed charisma and campaigning skills to set out the reality of why people there felt left behind, explaining that it is not the EU's fault, or migrants' fault, maybe Brexit could have been avoided. But he didn't want that. And now we're all paying the price while he's feeding his ego running as an independent.

Starmer is great. It's amazing what he has achieved since taking over and, yes, it's been made easier by the Tories being so unbelievably crap, but he's had no major blunders and has ruthlessly got his party under control, all the while being called 'weak and boring,' by others, which is really quite funny. He understands that less is more sometimes, like allowing Sunak to tell the lie about the £2000 and also refusing to get drawn into a personal attack on Sunak about the D Day fiasco as well. He knows exactly what he's doing and I can't wait until he's PM.

And I will never forgive his lack of passion for remain, like the time he reluctantly said he was 'about 70%' in favour of the EU during the campaign and calling for Article 50 to be triggered the day after the referendum. His actions were a huge betrayal of the poor and the young, both of whom supported him in huge numbers, especially the latter, and both of whom have suffered a disproportionate amount as a result of Brexit, with the young in particular being massively opposed to it. If Corbyn had gone into some of those red wall areas and used his famed charisma and campaigning skills to set out the reality of why people there felt left behind, explaining that it is not the EU's fault, or migrants' fault, maybe Brexit could have been avoided. But he didn't want that. And now we're all paying the price while he's feeding his ego running as an independent

Yes I agree.

Oh more Momentum like nonsense it’s amusing now it’s no longer will be keeping Labour in opposition

I don’t believe Corbyn voted Remain he never shifts opinion

What a mess it all was and what wasted opportunities to actually do some good

One of Corbyn's biggest mistakes was not saying how he voted in the Brexit referendum. If he had revealed he voted Leave, the Red Wall might have stuck with him.

I find the hate towards Starmer from die hard Corbyn supporters really unpleasant. I am not his biggest fan as he is too centrist for me, but I think he is a decent man.

It was an absolute no-win situation for him. I understand why he would have voted leave, because of the imperialist control of the EU, not because he's a racist like the others.

Most of his supporters wanted to remain though, so he had to represent them. I think it's a measure of the man that he campaigned to remain because it was the right thing to do, when it went against his belief.

He could have been a hypocrite, but that's not the kind of person he is.

He would have implemented brexit immediately, and he would have been the perfect person to do it, because it would have been for the right reasons, bringing control back to britain... not just about immigration. And I'm a remainder.

Keir proved time and time again that he is far from a decent man. He lied and manipulated to get to where he is... and he continues to purge the party of those who even mildly disagree with him... particularly women of colour.

Corbyn managed to inspire the youth and get them talking about politics. Keir destroyed that and his work will take generations to undo.