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General election 2024

Why has Diane Abbott not has a decision?? Labours "independent" probe finnished last year

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DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 28/05/2024 13:55

Don't be fooled by the "indpended" enquiry as the leader has the final say

Why has a decision not been given to Ms Abbott??

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8vv4ep92y8o

Diane Abbott

Diane Abbott: Labour race row probe finished last year

BBC Newsnight learns the MP was given a formal warning despite Labour saying it is still investigating.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8vv4ep92y8o

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DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 28/05/2024 19:12

duc748 · 28/05/2024 18:56

As far as Diane Abbott is concerned, it's another classic case of 'the process is the punishment'.

Anyone aware if Mr Starmer was asked about the Ms Abbott and the sepcuation in the media today??

Looks like, Labour has made its move

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13468741/Diane-Abbott-set-BANNED-standing-Labour-General-Election-30-years-MP-emerges-race-row-probe-completed-FIVE-MONTHS-ago.html

Diane Abbott is set to be BANNED from standing for Labour

Diane Abbott will not be allowed to stand as a Labour candidate in the upcoming general election.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13468741/Diane-Abbott-set-BANNED-standing-Labour-General-Election-30-years-MP-emerges-race-row-probe-completed-FIVE-MONTHS-ago.html

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tinytemper66 · 28/05/2024 19:51

Being posted on Twitter that she has had the whip restored. Just came up on Sky News too

BIWI · 28/05/2024 19:52

Yes - just being reported now

EffieeBriest · 28/05/2024 19:58

@DistinguishedSocialCommentator you’ll be pleased then as you were so concerned about her welfare 😂

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 28/05/2024 20:06

EffieeBriest · 28/05/2024 19:58

@DistinguishedSocialCommentator you’ll be pleased then as you were so concerned about her welfare 😂

Yes I am pleased as she is an asset. An assest to her constituency
I guess and the Labour party

Importantly - is this a distraction re who knew what and when as its a question of the integrity of you are to believe the media reports? Hopefully, the media will put questions to Mr Starmer and insist on an answer and I'm sure we will get one

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MagnetCarHair · 28/05/2024 20:21

So, she has the whip returned but she won't be allowed to stand as a candidate in election? Is that right?

EffieeBriest · 28/05/2024 20:32

That was the deal the party did I believe. She’s an iconic figure for the black community. Might not like her politics but she’s been a trailblazer particularly for black women and was a decent local MP which is essentially what it’s all about. She’s been subject to some horrendous racist attacks, could even call it bullying by the press and those on SM.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 28/05/2024 20:39

MagnetCarHair · 28/05/2024 20:21

So, she has the whip returned but she won't be allowed to stand as a candidate in election? Is that right?

Is this a massive distraction re want media was saying today re Mr Starmer possibly knowing the probe had been completed LAST YEAR??

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DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 28/05/2024 20:47

MagnetCarHair · 28/05/2024 20:21

So, she has the whip returned but she won't be allowed to stand as a candidate in election? Is that right?

Incredibly, that is indeed "right"

This circus is really going to town!! IMO, the Labour leader is now seriously unstuck

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13468741/Diane-Abbott-set-BANNED-standing-Labour-General-Election-30-years-MP-emerges-race-row-probe-completed-FIVE-MONTHS-ago.html

Diane Abbott 'will have whip reinstated'

Diane Abbott, who has been MP for Hackney North and Stoke Newington since 1987, has had the Labour whip withdrawn for more than a year.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13468741/Diane-Abbott-set-BANNED-standing-Labour-General-Election-30-years-MP-emerges-race-row-probe-completed-FIVE-MONTHS-ago.html

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DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 28/05/2024 20:54

Quote from the above link

now allow her to leave "politics with Dignity" (Thats Labour for you😂)
30 years of loyal service and she gets this🙄

"Senior aides to Sir Keir Starmer were said to be discussing returning the Labour whip to Ms Abbott before the election to allow her to leave politics 'with dignity'.
A ban on Ms Abbott standing for Labour at the general election is set to spark a fresh war between Sir Keir's team and the party's left-wing.

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Piddypigeon · 29/05/2024 09:09

whip restored but not allowed to stand for labour at the election.

I don't agree with everything DA stands for but the treatment from the labour party is vile. She immediately apologised for the article, she did the course she was asked to do. She has been such a long standing MP. and meanwhile, labour welcomes Natalie Elphicke with open arms.

BIossomtoes · 29/05/2024 09:14

Yes, it’s piss poor. I’m very disappointed with the Labour Party over this.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 29/05/2024 09:22

Looks like Labour has manged to duck one of the big questions, EG, when did Mr K Starmer become aware that Ms Abbotts investigation had been completed a long, long time ago, ie last year

I have no time for this woman/Abbott but being a very reasonable and fair person, IMO, her treatment at the hands of the Labour party is disgusting.

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SofaThrow · 29/05/2024 09:28

I have no time for this woman/Abbott but being a very reasonable and fair person, IMO, her treatment at the hands of the Labour party is disgusting

I agree. What she wrote was unforgivable but Starmer has clearly lied about this (and Dodds) and is not being quizzed over it - why not?

duc748 · 29/05/2024 11:57

She has been treated as shoddily as Jeremy Corbyn. Or Rosie Duffield, come to that.

Lint6 · 29/05/2024 12:31

It's all a bit odd. On Twitter she says she's, 'dismayed that numerous reports state that I have been barred as a candidate.' That's a bit different to having definitely been banned from standing. I wonder if she actually has been banned or not.

BIWI · 29/05/2024 12:32

BBC Breaking News says she hasn't been banned. The list of candidates hasn't been agreed yet.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 29/05/2024 12:37

SofaThrow · 29/05/2024 09:28

I have no time for this woman/Abbott but being a very reasonable and fair person, IMO, her treatment at the hands of the Labour party is disgusting

I agree. What she wrote was unforgivable but Starmer has clearly lied about this (and Dodds) and is not being quizzed over it - why not?

I agree. Labour should have the guts to come out and say what they are chatting about behind the scenes

Re Starmer knowing - ATM, we are not sure if he did know or not but he needs to come out and tell us, if not those that may be wanting to vote for him, that the press got it wrong. Why he is ducking this question as are his side-kicks I'm not sure

Sadly, as you said, the media now has been distracted by the latest tit-bits Labour is relating and their distraction technique appears to be waiting

If I was the leader of any political party and one of my MP's were out of order - depending on what was said and how they reacted when challenged and was this a first mistake or not - I be clear if I was going to boot them out or not

The buck stops with the leader of any political party

IMO, if Labour does slip in via the backdoor via coalition effort - they will have the left wing to contend with and we all know what will happen

Labour and Tories are not fit for the person

As I said, I am no fan of Ms Abbott, but a backbone from labour is missing as they are failing to respond to what many of their members want to know. So this is how they treat them and many will still vote labour, come what may

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bombastix · 29/05/2024 12:53

Lint6 · 29/05/2024 12:31

It's all a bit odd. On Twitter she says she's, 'dismayed that numerous reports state that I have been barred as a candidate.' That's a bit different to having definitely been banned from standing. I wonder if she actually has been banned or not.

I would guess the answer to this question is “no”.

BIossomtoes · 29/05/2024 13:02

if Labour does slip in via the backdoor via coalition effort

Why this obsession with “the back door”? Nobody’s slipping anywhere through the back door. The next government will, like every other, be democratically elected in a transparent process. We’ve had two Tory governments in the last 14 years that failed to get enough seats for a majority, one formed a (disastrous) coalition, the other relied on an alliance with a minority party. Even those didn’t involve any back doors.

Lint6 · 29/05/2024 13:09

BIWI · 29/05/2024 12:32

BBC Breaking News says she hasn't been banned. The list of candidates hasn't been agreed yet.

Good to know, thanks. Though crap of them to originally post it to sound like fact. Terrible journalism!

C8H10N4O2 · 29/05/2024 14:05

Lint6 · 29/05/2024 13:09

Good to know, thanks. Though crap of them to originally post it to sound like fact. Terrible journalism!

I wouldn't assume the current story is true either - its simply someone reporting that Starmer says she hasn't been explicitly banned and he can be quite economical with his words.

Diane on the other hand has been hearing that she is and the NEC have been pushing people out of safe seats to put their own lacklustre favourites into safe seats without going through a selection process (this has been covered for some time now by Crick who is not party aligned). Labour doesn't need to issue a "ban" to prevent her standing. If she isn't "selected" I hope she stands as an independent and hammers the NEC clone.

I suspect they will hastily find a new years honours peerage for her to go quietly.

stuckinapothole · 29/05/2024 16:44

A lot of interest in Labour re. Abbott, yet the Tories did not return the huge donations (£10 million last year) to their donor who made racist and sexist comments about her.

EasternStandard · 29/05/2024 16:46

Lint6 · 29/05/2024 13:09

Good to know, thanks. Though crap of them to originally post it to sound like fact. Terrible journalism!

I thought it came from Diane?

The press would likely assume she knows

SofaThrow · 29/05/2024 18:12

Clare Short on LBC now saying that there is no issue with what Abbott wrote originally!

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