Even if Labour win the GE the media will start undermining from day one…

[Lottelenya]

Bet your bottom dollar that any false step or U turn as a new government learns more about the actual economic situation they inherit, will be trumpeted as failure and a sign of incompetence. The right wing media is so all powerful it can easily mould public opinion anyway it pleases. It’s only when the population is directly affected by events like CoL crisis, Party-gate, shit in the sea and rivers etc that they start to think for themselves and question how reality differs from what’s propaganda.
Back in the day when I was young and politically disengaged I remember seeing headlines about the EU president using call girls. It for a second disgusted me and my opinion was that EU membership was a bad thing if they were as corrupt as him. Obviously years later I realised that this was just the EU baiting so commonplace and insidious in the UK press. If I hadn’t read more I’d have been none the wiser.
So I’m actually feeling quite concerned about a Labour victory knowing what they are up against. The mud slinging will start immediately and we’re back to square one…

Yes Labour are getting their excuses in early I note.

Yes this is so much the case. Ask any student who is Jewish or does not believe in gender ideology. Some of my ex-students have to keep their views quiet or else face a mob and a disciplinary. Free speech is really under attack atm in our universities and it is a real and worrying issue.

Are you happy that the BBC - the state broadcaster - refused to label Hamas as a terrorist organisation? That it promotes gender ideology?

Yes absolutely the labour party should expect scrutiny. But that is not what the click bait press will do. Instead, they make huge issues over trivial shite.
I,m not interested in front page news about how someone ate a bacon butty, what colour tie they wore or whether they put their hands in their pockets. its pathetic and trivial

In other news, cats miaow.

Oh it’ll start before then, in fact I believe it has. The media will attempt to destroy Starmer like they did Corbyn by skewing facts and making him out to be a bad person which he wasn’t. Ultimately the right wing press run the country

I have not seen this at all - Starmer seems to me to be getting an easy ride, partly because the press know that they will need to deal with him when he is elected.

Corbyn was unfit to lead the LP and it lost my support when he was elected.

And I guess also that from day one, Labour will blame everything that goes wrong on the Tory government - saying its what they have inherited, but the public will only accept that excuse for so long. It happened after the Thatcher years, where Labour blamed her decades later. It was only a couple of years ago that people were saying Labour were unelectable. They're going to give them a chance, but only because the tories have been crap for the last year. They have a chance to change things, but will be out again at the next GE in 4 years if they don't perform.

Yes the votes are not going to Labour because people are inspired by them (Blair 1997) - they may vote for them because the Tories are unutterably shit.

I hope he gets an easy ride. We deserve to have a government that aren’t cheating, pocket-lining, partying, rule-breaking bastards

Come on. Corbyn self sabotaged. No smear necessary. It wasn't due to the written words of the press but due to what we actually saw. He was, and is, awful.

Granted he wasn’t very charismatic but he certainly wasn’t an IRA sympathiser the press made him out to be

@SofaThrow you’re making presumptions about me. No support here for Hamas or the BBC white washing them.

The BBC has alot more power than the Daily Mail. The country is run by a load of left leaning remaining unelected bodies. They all love starmer and everything he represents. From what I've read of his intentions he is not likely to address any of the country's deep roited problems but will concentrate on divisive identity politics.

Agreed. I'd rather my kids were learning about, and discussing politics at school , rather than some of the useless outdated stuff this Government has insisted they be taught.

What 'useless' stuff would that be?

Plenty of the curriculum is outdated, it doesn't really prepare our kids for the world they will be living in. Even GCSEs themselves are an outdated concept (and out of step with a lot of the rest of the world).

But which parts of the curriculum are you meaning?

@Northernnature 😂 well yes people on here have been saying that the tories are really lefties in disguise and that a right wing Brexit was Labour’s fault. What are the country’s deep rooted problems ? We might agree..

So true. It's depressing

I learned about media bias and slant at school. It was compulsory then and probably still is now.

I doubt there is a wholesale anti labour bias in the media. Different media slants different ways. Maybe take tinfoil hat off and learn to tolerate different opinions

This is the case that the BBC is heavily biased yet dominant. In particular it reports on some issues in such a biased manner (in particular pro gender identity and anti israel) and is incredibly selective about what it reports at all. This is not so apparent in its general political reporting but there is a bias there I think.

The issue with this, is that it is taxpayer funded and in a dominant position. It is not one voice but pretends to be the one neutral voice. Imo we should not be forced to pay for it.

I quite agree. Let people vote with their feet when it comes to the BBC.

@Lottelenya deep rooted problems - massive debt, high spending by govt with parallel poor performing public services, housing expensive (supply low, demand far too high with 800k net immigration pa highest in history), 5m on out of work benefits many of who could work but low wages and high cost of housing makes it unattractive/impossible for them. High energy costs meaning import too much and no long term planning on anything including planning for much higher population - water, energy, roads etc. Divided country. KS won't address any of this, and will probably make much worse.

Yes it has struck me throughout the last decade or so that even when Tory politicians do or say palpably awful things they somehow manage to ride it out , whereas politicians from other parties aren't allowed a hair out of place.

(And I say that as someone who doesn't have any particular political leaning, I think the country often needs different types of policies at different times, so it isn't bias speaking)