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Ranting about how literally only weeds grow and native plants are going extinct because of stupid weeds

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Necoblast · 24/07/2026 20:53

When I make a new garden patch that is empty, literally only invasive species take over the garden patch no matter how many seeds of native species I put there, and they grow back right after deweeding. I only seen one native species grow in the garden and it lasted for about a month before dying, despite my efforts to keep the garden free of weeds. Is this a skill issue?? You would think that with a fresh lot, native species would automatically grow IN THEIR OWN ENVIRONMENT WHICH THEY ARE NATIVE TO AND THEREFORE ARE EVOLVED TO LIVE IN! But you have to give them special treatment and do so much work just to grow NATIVE SPECIES! And you have to purposefully keep pulling out the non native species that somehow thrive better than the native ones!! DESPITE EVOLVING FOR A DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENT!!! Am I stupid??? Literally the only thing that woll grow are invasive plants, and better yet, the invasive house sparrows FEASTS on those invasive plants!! Am I the only one who thinks this is like, really bad for the biodiversity?? And there are no measures to control it, everyone just accepts that our ecosystem, previously home to hundreds of different species, is just gone and replaced with like, 5 plants and 2 birds that dominate everything.
The crazy thing is, when I weeded out the invasive species, that allowed for, you guessed it, slightly less dominant invasive species to grow in their place! It's invasive all the way down! At least we still have native bugs. For now…

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Pickmepickmepickme · 24/07/2026 20:58

Which plants exactly? And which 2 birds? Where exactly are you ?

Agapornis · 24/07/2026 23:49

House sparrows are native in the UK/Europe, and not invasive here (most forum dwellers are in the UK/Europe). Which country are you in? I'm guessing USA if you call insects bugs?

Native species still require certain soil conditions - one garden cannot cater to them all. If you'd like advice please tell us what you're trying to grow and where.

Scampuss · 25/07/2026 09:52

Most "weeds" are native species.

Sparrows aren't invasive.

Are you planting for your conditions (soil type, aspect etc)?

One of the best things you can do for wildlife is create a wildlife pond.

Mischance · 25/07/2026 09:54

My garden is having with native species in my wildflower area - they thrive even in this drought.

orangehandles · 25/07/2026 12:35

What native plants are you attempting to grow? If it is meadow wild flowers, then they don't do well in good soil, they like poor stuff and specific conditions.

And yes, as has already been pointed out, weeds are native plants as well, and are very good for biodiversity. Identify the weeds, and only remove those which are non-native and invasive, such as Himalayan balsam.

JustinThyme · 25/07/2026 12:42

You sound a bit confused.

Sparrows are native. Their population steeply declined in recent decades and it's great if you have some visiting regularly.

There are some non-native invasive plants like Himalayan balsam or Japanese knotweed but most things that grow like billy-o are actually native.

If you are trying to grown wildflowers in good rich soil you will fail. They evolved to grown in poor soil.

All in all your post is quite a muddled rant. If you tell us what you want to grow and where, posters here are very knowledgeable and helpful.

Seeline · 25/07/2026 12:53

Wildflowers generally thrive within a specific ecosystem only. You won't get woodland flowers growing on a mountain top, or chalk grassland species in a sand dune system etc.
Are you planting correctly for conditions in your garden?

And what invasive species are you talking about? My completely brown lawn is full of clover, self-heal, black medic, fox-and-cubs, cats ears, ragwort, convolvulus etc All native wildflowers.

muddyford · 25/07/2026 13:01

House sparrows are native, not invasive. Very few wild plants are invasive and most weeds are native wildflowers.

MadameBethune · 25/07/2026 15:16

Not all plants will grow well from seeds sown directly into the soil. Quite a lot of seeds do much better sown into trays of compost then planted out when they are stronger. One of the reasons for this is so they can compete with self-sown plants in the same area (ie what you may be identifying as weeds).

ErrolTheDragon · 25/07/2026 16:44

Some non-native species do thrive and, left to their own devices, will be liable to overwhelm natives and form a monoculture. The most obvious example in the U.K. is Himalayan Balsam. The reason they do so well is usually that they’ve evolved for a similar ecological niche elsewhere but they don’t have any (or enough) natural controls here eg no caterpillars which like to munch their leaves.

HoppityBun · 25/07/2026 16:46

Native plants are those that were here during the last ice age or arrived soon after. That’s quite limiting.

Talkinpeace · 25/07/2026 16:47

You OK Hun ?

Necoblast · 25/07/2026 19:49

Sorry I forgot to mention that I am in North America and I individually checked every plant in the backyard to figure out which apecies they are. They are all invasive except 1 plant which has “unknown origins”

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ErrolTheDragon · 26/07/2026 08:01

Whereabouts in North America - it’s a continent with a huge number of different environments! Although this forum tends to be mostly British, someone might have local knowledge.

But even in our small islands, a native plant which thrives in one location may not just a few yards away. Soil type, amount of water/drainage, shade etc all make a difference. Some native plants do grow well from seeds in the right location but others don’t.

As to the invasive non-natives - chances are some of them are European so if you say what they are we might have tips on how to control them.

orangehandles · 27/07/2026 10:48

House sparrows are everywhere. I went to Kenya many years ago, and as we walked down the plane steps at Mombasa airport, I was expecting to see lots of lovely African birds I'd never seen before. What was the first bird we encountered? Yep - a whole flock of house sparrows.

orangehandles · 27/07/2026 10:49

Necoblast · 25/07/2026 19:49

Sorry I forgot to mention that I am in North America and I individually checked every plant in the backyard to figure out which apecies they are. They are all invasive except 1 plant which has “unknown origins”

Whereabouts in North America are you, and in what climate zone?

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