Can anyone tell me what this curly plant is growing on my rose

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I have what I assume is a rose in my garden. It has thorns but hasn't flowered yet. I only moved I a month ago. It's got this curly plant growing from its base. Can anyone tell me what it is

Looks like a fern.

It looks like ivy to me.

Do you mean the ivy? Not quite sure what I am looking at

I'd say fern!

Sorry. Photos a bit rubbish. The ivy is behind the rose growing up the wall. The curly thing is in front of the ivy

The rose is bald at the bottom. You can see the two thorny sticks in the photo.

Can you tell I am new to gardening

Looks like a fern before they open out, youtube time-lapse ferns, I love the way they uncurl 😊

Just watched a time lapse in YouTube. That's amazing. The clip I watched was over about 5 days and it whet from nothing to fully open. That you explain how it seems to have Kai appeared.

It definitely looks like an unfurling fern, I think it may be Dryopteris filix-mas, it's common name is the male fern! It grows quite large, maybe 2ft by 2ft or even a bit more. You could try pulling it up and planting it in a shady part of your garden.

Yes - a fern; but it may be hard to dig out without digging up the whole rose, as it is right in the middle of it.

And the 'rose' needs a good pruning, and could be beyond salvation.