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GCSE '18s (19) - New Beginnings?

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whistl · 04/09/2018 17:44

Following on from the GCSE 2018 threads as our DC enter year 12.
This the first thread in our new home in further education

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TheThirdOfHerName · 14/09/2018 17:18

My brain is so full of other things (new role and pressures at work; the scattiest 18 year old in the world about to leave for university) that DS2 has not been subject to the usual micromanagement I attempt when my children start new courses. This is probably a great relief to him.

I do see him in passing sometimes, and I remember to politely enquire if everything is going OK.

whistl · 14/09/2018 17:31

I've just been commanded invited to a GCSE information evening for DS2...
it is the same school, same GCSEs (apart from one change), same exam boards, same texts for English... in other words its a topic that I'm an expert on!

I'm fully prepared to support DS2, just like I did for DS1, but I really don't want to go to this because its two hours of my life that i won't get back!

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TheThirdOfHerName · 14/09/2018 17:33

Whistl
I have tried really hard to treat my youngest two the same as DS1 and DS2, showing an interest in options, open days etc.
However, even I draw the line at GCSE options evenings. I went to one (DS1's) and even that was one too many.

Twinplusone · 14/09/2018 17:36

bishop know what you mean, my periods finished years ago.
Hardly any flushes though.. maybe they are still to come

whistl know where you are coming from. Sat through DS GCSE evening 2 years after DD, Deputy Head have exactly the same speech, same attempt at jokes... DS chose same options as DD with exception of one change - certainly was 2 hours of my life wasted.

Cherryburn · 14/09/2018 17:50

Twin glad you’re feeling better today, sounds like they may already have had plans for the job. Very frustrating.

I had a very early menopause too (not quite as early as Kick though). Didn’t even realise it was happening until my periods stopped (I thought I might be pregnant, which would not have been a welcome surprise!) I was upset at the time too, because it was so early, but realise now that I got off very lightly with no symptoms then or since.

In other news, we got the result of DS’s remark back and it’s gone up to an A* so he now has a clean sweep (and a 9). Interestingly the marks on both papers changed, so not a great strike rate on accuracy Hmm.

brainmelt · 14/09/2018 17:57

Great news cherry! It really makes me think of the people who won't ask for a remark and all those teens who will go around with a grade lower than they deserved. It is bonkers.

whistl · 14/09/2018 18:09

I can't help myself! Having put so much time into DS1's GCSEs, I sit through these talks mentally critiquing the presentation. (You say you do that, but really you do this etc). I only hope that it stays in my head and I don't accidentally say it aloud!

I've done the GCSE options evening, which i swear was the exact same presentation as DS1 had - except now they say that no one, not even people thinking of doing medicine should do do triple science (bad advice, IMO).

This is the presentation where they tell you it will be lots of hard work this year (it won't - that's year 11, this is year 10), that there will be one parents evening in Feb/ March and there will be end of year exams.

Then they talk about the importance of attending school every day and of doing the homework. Then there's a bit about DofE (been there, got the t-shirt!) and other, unspecified aka non-existent opportunities before we're all dismissed.

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whistl · 14/09/2018 18:16

On a different subject, i wanted to share with you all how DS1 is getting on at his new sixth form.
I've been more than a bit anxious about him in the past. The short version is: its going really well.
He's having no problems keeping up with the work, he's part of a wide group of friends and I'd swear, he even looks more mature and at ease with himself! The young boy with the weight of world on his shoulders has gone. It's a miracle! (and I think i might cry if I write any more!)

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Kilash · 14/09/2018 18:36

Great news whistl, just what you had hoped!

Flowers twin glad you are feeling a bit better. Internal job applications are a nightmare, worse because you probably have an idea of all the internal politics etc.

I'm feeling my age too, but am a bit older than many of you (62 baby). I have a pretty demanding job which is fast paced all shift and we are sometimes on for 12 hrs at a go. If I'm home I'm in bed by 9! But HRT is a marvellous thing- I went on it a couple of years ago and it helped enormously.

sandybayley · 14/09/2018 18:40

Congratulations @Cherryburn. I've not heard of any remarks at DS1 school - maybe they've happened and stayed the same. We decided to leave the one surprise (an 8 in geography - one of his best subjects) as it didn't seem worth the hassle.

I'm pleased to report things also going well for DS1. He's gone out tonight (cinema not party) which is really encouraging as he's not that social. He's also booked onto a Chemistry taster day in half term at Kings College in London - being in London does make these things easy.

Like others I'm in two minds about the Year 10 GCSE evenings with DD....

TheThirdOfHerName · 14/09/2018 19:22

He's also booked onto a Chemistry taster day in half term at Kings College in London
KCL is easily the best London university. Much better than UCL.
Disclaimer: I might be slightly biased.

TheThirdOfHerName · 14/09/2018 19:24

whistl I'm glad to hear it's going well.

I've been invited to a Y10 information evening at DD's school. Very sadly, I have a rehearsal that evening, so DH will have to go instead. 😆

EllenJanesthickerknickers · 14/09/2018 19:39

There was a Y12 information evening at DS3's school last night. Unfortunately clashed with The Full Monty. What's a girl to do? Grin

Oratory1 · 14/09/2018 20:24

That’s lovely news whistl so pleased. Radio silence from DS - nothing since Monday, hoping no news is good news.

Stickerrocks · 14/09/2018 20:28

Excellent news from Cherry & Whistl. What are you rehearsing for TheThird?

I stand up for 6-7 hours a day when I'm lecturing, so goodness knows why I thought it was a good idea to book 4 tennis matches in 8 days. Someone I play with casually said that she wanted a new doubles partner & asked me to play in the league with her. It was definitely a "stuff it" moment, but I'm loving the challenge. My hips and knees are suffering, but I'm hoping that the extra exercise will offset the large strawberry & lime gin I'm currently drinking & help on the scales.

DD's trains are also running to plan, but we keep reminding her to have enough cash for a bus fare and a bus timetable app on her phone in case there is a jumper or leaves on the line. It would probably take an hour or so to get back to where I work, but I'm blowed if I'm driving up a motorway at rush hour to fetch her. Coats are definitely uncool, so I have a vision of a grey DD with blue lips standing, shivering on a platform.

KingscoteStaff · 14/09/2018 21:19

Another remark back here. DS was 2 marks off a 9 for History - he is now 7 marks over!

His response - ‘doesn’t really matter - no one cares about GCSEs any more. What’s for dinner?’

AChickenCalledKorma · 14/09/2018 22:42

Delighted to hear that your DS is blossoming in his new environment Whistl.

(And what on earth is the reasoning for triple science being a bad idea??!!!)

sandybayley · 14/09/2018 22:48

@KingscoteStaff - that's great news. I remember him being a bit disappointed when it came out so good that you got it looked at.

DS1 is still out! I'm a bit shocked as this is the latest he's ever been. I'd quite love me to go to bed but I'm not going up until he's back. I think for some of the other DC on this thread this might be quite standard stuff but this is highly unusual for us. Actually I'm quite pleased though.

eaglefly · 14/09/2018 22:52

Kingscote was this a Cambridge igcse by any chance? In which case we may do. I think we still have time till Monday.

whistl · 15/09/2018 04:52

Triple science = bad idea
School stated reasons:
(1) Triple is harder - 3 GCSEs taught in timetable slots for 2 GCSEs
(2) Students have to sit longer exam papers and the extra work eats into revision time for other subjects during the exams.
(3) There is zero benefit to doing triple - even if you want to study medicine
(4) A 9-9 is better than 3 x 7

They also add that you have to get permission from the head of science to do triple, and it will only be granted if: -
(a) you are in the top set for science in year 9; and
(b) you want to develop a career in science or medicine; and
(c) you are willing to work very hard

To be fair, the school do virtually nothing to support the one class of triple scientists, which creates a good reason all by itself to consider the combined papers, although they don't warn about this at the GCSE options night.

Both DSes did / are doing triple. DS1 sat mock papers written for combined science. He only saw a sample triple paper for the first time at Easter. There were no revision sessions for triple in Biology or Chemistry but Physics ran 2 emergency sessions in May. However, the revision sessions for the combined scientists ran twice a week from the end of January.

DS1 got 3x9 but that was largely thanks to Teenmum's Tassomai recommendation that I signed DS up to at the start of May. Without that -and a lot of hard work- he'd have been looking at 6s and would not be doing A level Physics at the college he goes to now (probably wouldn't be doing it at all).

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whistl · 15/09/2018 05:02

As you can see, I paid attention at the school info nights and that's why I don't need to hear it all again! Also, you can imagine me sitting in the audience thinking
"tut! that's bad advice! Don't you know how few 9-9s are given to combined science and how hard you are making it for anyone who will do a science A level!"
and also
"Tsk!You are gaming the league tables here at the expense of the students education!"

At least with DS2, I know what's coming and I'll be prepared to fill in the gaps that the school leaves. This is why I really do not need a lecture on what to expect in year 10!

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whistl · 15/09/2018 05:15

sandybayley I'm pleased to hear your DS was enjoying himself so much that he stayed out late. I hope he got in safely and didn't keep you up too late.
If /when DS1 and DS2 start going out, I'm sure I'll be fighting against myself to enable phone tracking!

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Cherryburn · 15/09/2018 06:45

Thanks for the congrats on the remark. DS was similarly nonplussed about it Kingscote, they really have moved on.

But actually, I do think it’s important for a couple of reasons. Firstly they should ALL get the results they deserve and sloppy marking shouldn’t rob them of their rightful grade (and this was a science, so subjectivity can’t be blamed. The mark schemes are so prescriptive that even I, with no science background at all, can mark past papers, and I could see at least 2 glaring errors on the marking of one of DS’s papers submitted for review even without the benefit of the mark scheme.)

And secondly, there are some universities (eg definitely Oxford and I suspect Durham) who place a lot of importance on GCSE grades for some subjects, probably more so since AS Levels have gone. Quite rightly, given the advantages smaller classes, a full teaching staff etc confer, they expect high grades from DC at selective independent schools and look at the performance of an applicant vs their peers. At the moment DS has no intention of applying for Oxford (he’s seen how hard his sister works Grin) but it looks like he’ll be going for a course and universities which have high entry requirements, so that erroneous grade could have made a difference.

And Brainmelt I agree it’s maddening that there are DC who will never know that they actually achieved a higher grade than they were awarded.

Sandy hope your DS had a good night and didn’t keep you up too late. I still can’t go to bed till I know that DS is safely in (although I do tend to fall asleep on the sofa and he wakes me when he gets back!)

whistl it’s so good to hear that your DS is flourishing at his new college. They all find their place eventually but it’s so hard to watch them struggle to get there.

veiledsentiments · 15/09/2018 06:57

Have seen my youngest for about 15 minutes since Wednesday! Thursday was a holiday. I have a big house because the Inlaws come and stay for 2 months at a time, and have a bedroom each. With OH being in the UK with the eldest it seems a bit ridiculous as it's just me and the dog. However, he sent me a picture yesterday of the shopping they had done for university. Judging by the amount of stuff in the car, the list has been adhered to.

TheThirdOfHerName · 15/09/2018 08:30

What are you rehearsing for TheThird?

I sing in a choir. We're doing a concert in November for Armistice 100: Spirit of England (Elgar) and Dona Nobis Pacem (Vaughan Williams). We have a good reputation and people are paying £18 to £30 per ticket, so a high standard of performance is expected.

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