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New Year 12 starters parent support thread (snappy title eh?)

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 31/08/2016 19:19

here we are.

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 06/09/2016 16:30

does she have to be in during the free periods catslife? Really glad she had a good day :)

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NoHaudinMaWheest · 06/09/2016 16:34

DD seems to have made a good start. She says there are too many people. Actually there are far fewer than her old school but she is expected to interact with them all whereas she used to just ignore most of them.
OYBBK sorry dd has gone into worry mode. DD just has some maths tests to do. They were told that it was just to see where their weaknesses are so that the teaching could be tailored accordingly. Dd's weakness is basic arithmetic. A^ in futher maths but spent 10 mins working out .75 x 3.

needastrongone · 06/09/2016 16:37

Good news catslife

DS can't be at home for free periods for the first half term, until good study habits are established (they can be trusted)...

catslife · 06/09/2016 16:44

dd isn't sure whether she has to be there at 8.55am if first lesson is later on, but they don't have to stay until 4pm if their last lesson finishes earlier.

cloudyday99 · 06/09/2016 16:53

DSD is worried about how few fee periods she's go - about one a day - of 40 minutes. They've told them to expect 4 hours homework per subject per week, and as she's doing 4 subjects for now that's a lot of work, which is making her anxious. Unfortunately being anxious does not make her work harder, it makes it all overwhelming for her and her productivity goes down. The easier the work and the more in control she feels, the harder she works. Am hoping her teachers realise this and pile on the praise not the pressure. Does anyone know if they really get 4 hours per subject per week? She's doing essay subjects, not sciences.

DS, meanwhile, does not start til next week so is having a lazy week at home, on his own mostly as I'm out at work. Bought a quiche and some filled pasta to feed him what should have been 4 lunches, but he's eaten it all today Shock Bloody teenage boys Grin

His sixth form use the aptitude tests too I think - they sound a bit like the ones they did at the start of Y7 - used alongside previous results to generate target grades. DS didn't do that well in his Y6 SATs, so his target grades were mostly Bs, which they still kept showing on his reports right up to GCSE time, and even when he'd got an A in his mock and his predicted grade was an A - that he should somehow be aiming for a "target" of a B Hmm I think the sixth form maybe use them for setting kids too.

HesMyLobster · 06/09/2016 16:54

I just asked DD about ALIS tests, she gave me her most withering look then explained that they are only used by schools/colleges with lots of new students coming from lots of different schools, or by those with lots of international students.
So she agrees with you Strong and Kitten!

I'd never heard of it either!

HesMyLobster · 06/09/2016 16:54

I just asked DD about ALIS tests, she gave me her most withering look then explained that they are only used by schools/colleges with lots of new students coming from lots of different schools, or by those with lots of international students.
So she agrees with you Strong and Kitten!

I'd never heard of it either!

Icouldbeknitting · 06/09/2016 17:06

I have had a nosey on the college website and found that they set targets the same way that school did for GCSE so they look at prior attainment and some sort of statistically relevant prior year group. They will know what is the likelihood of A/B/C depending on what GCSEs you enter with.

York was lovely, as a day out it could only have been improved by the aircon working on the train on the way home. Next up after this cup of tea is a shower and a change of clothes.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 06/09/2016 17:34

NoHaudin - arithmetic isn't maths Wink

Had some happy texts. She's joined some clubs that were a little startling, got her timetable. It's really packed. Two frees, but they do a sports afternoon once a week so that will balance things out. No homework again. Hooray!

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FantasyAndHope · 06/09/2016 18:42

DD has 11 frees per week! She seems happy said it was nice and has meant several new people. She's in a room by herself and said its a nice room she can take a Christmas tree at Christmas!

TheSecondOfHerName · 06/09/2016 19:04

There are 20 students in DS1's A-level Maths set. All of them are doing single Maths rather than Maths & Further Maths.
Today the teacher went round asking each of them what grade they got at GCSE and whether they had done a further maths qualification in Y11.
18 of them got an A* and had done FM last year.
DS1 and one other student got an A and haven't done FM.

The teacher presumably already has this information, so I'm not sure what purpose that served other than to make DS1 feel even less confident than he was already.
Sad

TheSecondOfHerName · 06/09/2016 19:08

The first lesson was about surds. He was the only student who had never done them before (possibly taught at GCSE during the time he was ill). DS1 copied the first answer from the boy next to him, used that to reverse-engineer the method, and managed the rest. He is planning to teach himself surds this evening.

TheSecondOfHerName · 06/09/2016 19:13

She's joined some clubs that were a little startling

Surprise Soc. ?

ExitPursuedBySpartacus · 06/09/2016 19:29

We disused surds on the last thread I think. I still have no idea what they are.

Buying DD a new smart jacket today and it was 20% off. I asked her how much it would be and she gave me the look and said 'I don't do Maths anymore'.

StepAwayFromTheThesaurus · 06/09/2016 19:39

DS1's first day seems to have gone well. He had a chemistry lesson and nothing else.

He's downstairs doing maths and chemistry homework at the moment. His timetable looks very sparse. He's got Monday mornings free (til 4th period) and Thursday afternoons. But he has to be in school full time and working in one of the study areas.

FantasyAndHope · 06/09/2016 19:41

DDs first day back is tomorrow!
Her timetable is pretty full there's a lot of teaching and only 11 frees! She's shocked she was expecting more frees

HeyBells · 06/09/2016 19:42

TheSecond sounds like your DS has a great attitude. I'm sure that will help.

DS has one or two frees study periods a day. He has 9 hours of lessons a fortnight for each subject except further maths which is 6. I think they can only do FM as a fourth subject.

DS has become monosyllabic again now he's back. This is normal but he seems happy enough.

NoHaudinMaWheest · 06/09/2016 20:02

Thesecond that sounds insensitive of the teacher to say the least.
But his attitude is great.
Dd doesn't actually have her timetable yet, but it will be pretty full as they have short days on Monday and Fridays.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 06/09/2016 20:43

It's amazing how much it varies from place to place isn't it!

surds are fun - it's all about looking for hidden square numbers and getting them to reveal themselves. TheSecond, soon you won't be able to tell who did further maths and who didn't. It's an advantage for a little while, but he should be ok. I can recommend a book for him to catch up if you want.

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EllenJanethickerknickers · 06/09/2016 21:10

I'm getting nervous about DS2 starting tomorrow. He starts at 11.50 on Wednesdays and will have to lock up the house! As well as catching a public bus. I guess they'll look after him while he's there but I'm a concerned about the journey there and back. I might meet him at the bus stop on his way home.

EllenJanethickerknickers · 06/09/2016 21:13

I can remember surds being the first lesson in my A level Maths, 30 cough years ago. DS1 did them in Further Maths GCSE level so that's probably why the others could do them.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 06/09/2016 21:18

Ellen, can you get him to take a picture of the locked up house and text it to you? might give him a bit of an extra prod. Does he have a bus tracker app on his phone?

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228agreenend · 06/09/2016 21:21

Ds has been told four hours homework per subject, which seems a tough call, especially when you conisder clubs etc.

i have no idea what surds are either, and i have maths A-level.

whats Class Bear up to?

maybe we could have Virtual class bear on here, although i'm not sure whether he (have you ever seen a female class bear?) would have like to have been documented witnessing ds2 havimg a tantrum because we wouldn't let him go to his sports club because he hasn't done his hoilday homework, depite reminders.

derektheladyhamster · 06/09/2016 21:23

All the coursework for 1 GCSE is being sent back for re-moderating. (Is that a word 😮)
I assume that the whole class did poorly. It's a very experienced teacher, so I was surprised at DS's grade. He was heading towards an A* and got a B

OhYouBadBadKitten · 06/09/2016 21:23

I have no idea how dd would fit in all that homework on top of travel and clubs! eep!

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